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Pat_Mustard

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
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Step 1: Start draft: Saturday OK
Step 2:Romario-Ronaldo (if OK go directly to the step 4) - Sunday OK
Step 3: aquisition of major players -
Step 4: aquisition of secondary players -
Step 5: end of the draft - Sunday OK
:lol: Yeah, I think it's fair to say I did zero planning for this draft beyond getting my hands on Ro-Ro.
 

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Against the very elite strikers in the game as Fenomeno, Muller, van Basten, Eusebio, etc IMO he'd get annihilated..
I'd argue you are exaggerating a tad. Defending is a team effort and he would put in a good shift and bring with him many positive attributes.

It only holds if you expect him to do a personal man-marking job. But then, you would not be using him the right way and he would quite rightly get annihilated.
 

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:lol: Yeah, I think it's fair to say I did zero planning for this draft beyond getting my hands on Ro-Ro.
It's not a matter of planning because you know all the players. You took Ro-Ro and did the fiesta so you forgot to follow the market :D
 

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Kind of cooperative list management. Empowering the masses!
It would be nice if you could put the most up to date purchase/money spent list and then you be the only one who has to touch it
 

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I'd argue you are exaggerating a tad. Defending is a team effort and he would put in a good shift and bring with him many positive attributes.

It only holds if you expect him to do a personal man-marking job. But then, you would not be using him the right way and he would quite rightly get annihilated.
Well of course, but if he'd be the liability in the defensive line and rightly targetted when up against elite attacker. Almost anytime he has faced an elite attacker like Messi, Ronaldinho, Neymar, even Suarez he was falling far too much on his arse for my liking.

It's not only playing as a man marker, he has how many - 5 red cards against Barca and 24 in total? And that is not including the number of times he should've walked the pitch.

Sure he has many positive attributes, but not many are in pure defensive sense. In an all time situation where he's facing one of the best players in history you'd need every defender in your line up to hold his own in 1 on 1 situations, not depend on others to cover his ass.

In hypothetical situations and all time draft/players, he'll be isolated on 1 on 1 far too often, creating numerical advantage for the opposition when he's beaten.
 

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Yeah for me that is clearly Ramos' biggest problem. Way too many red cards and lapses of concentration to make it into the truly great defender bracket. Great player though and his clutch goals are on another level.
 

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He lacks concentration and discipline. In crux matches, when RM is on defensive, you can either expect him to get a red card or concede.
It's not only that. His reading of the game is average at best and his decision making is really poor at times, not only due to lack of concentration but more so lacking natural defensive instinct.
 

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Purchased
  1. 2mufc0 - (1) J. Neeskens (2) J. Cruyff (3) T. Burgnich (4) R. Gullit
  2. Oaencha - (1) G. Batistuta (2) Neymar (3) L. Messi (4) N. Vidic (5) M. Preud’homme (6) G. Gattuso (7) W. Suurbier (8) G. Netzer (9) Maxwell
  3. Enigma/TRV - (1) D. De Gea (2) G. Muller (3) A. Benarrivo (4) B. Moore (5) M. Tardelli (6) A. Simonsen (7) Rivellino (8) I. Netto (9) D. Villa
  4. MJJ - (1) Z. Zidane (2) F. Beckenbauer (3) H. Stoichkov (4) D. Law
  5. Isotope - (1) Ronaldinho (2) A. Robben (3) P. Montero (4) O. Ruggeri (5) B. Schweinsteiger (6) C. Seedorf (7) Lucio
  6. Idmanager - (1) G. Rivera (2) Rivaldo (3) A. Hansen (4) G. Meazza (5) G. Zambrotta (6) H. Chumpitaz (7) O. Varela (8) J. Tigana (9) G. Weah (10) A. Peruzzi (11) A. Demyanenko (12) E. Abidal
  7. Lord Sinister - (1) Marcelo (2) D. Alves (3) G. Sarosi (4) Redondo (5) M. van Basten (6) W. Schulz (7) H.G. Schwarzenbeck (8) O. Ardiles (9) G. Buchwald (10) J. Oblak (11) J. Bozsik
  8. Arbitrium - (1) G. Facchetti (2) P. Lahm (3) M. Sammer (4) D. Beckham (5) J. Kohler (6) J. Stam (7) H. Kane (8) E. Hazard (9) B. Bremner (10) J. M. Moreno (11) P. Janes (12) C. Maldini
  9. Moby- (1) J. Zanetti (2) R. Krol (3) F. Baresi (4) R. Ferri (5) J. M. Camacho (6) J. Greaves (7) K-H Rummenigge
  10. Pat Mustard - (1) L. Ronaldo (2) Romario (3) R. Bonhof (4) V. Voronin (5) J. Giles (6) A. Pedernera
  11. OneNil - (1) T. Cerezo (2) P. R. Falcao (3) E. Figueroa (4) G. Mendieta (5) Maicon (6) G. Lato (7) Emerson Leao (8) C. Puyol (9) L. Suarez (10) R. Rensenbrink
  12. Sjor/TRoss - (1) G. Best (2) O. Bergmark (3) D. Godin (4) L. Bonucci (5) W. Zenga (6) G. Souness (7) J-S Park (8) K. Dalglish
  13. Skizzo - (1) Zico (2) M. Coluna (3) T. Finney (4) C. Gentile (5) G. Chiellini (6) McGrain (7) L. Junior (8) P. Briegel (9) U. Seeler (10) D. Dzajic
  14. P-Nut - (1) Socrates (2) P. Nedved (3) N. Stiles (4) P. Evra (5) J. Johnstone (6) A. Spencer (7) L. Blanc (8) M. Carrick (9) T. Courtois (10) C. Ferrara (11) C. Alberto
  15. Crappy/Indnyc - (1) D. Irwin (2) D. Maradona (3) D. Alaba (4) F. Hierro (5) R. Clemence (6) T. Silva (7) M. Kempes (8) E. Abidal
  16. RaeVictus (1) N. Santos (2) Pelé (3) G. Scirea (4) M. Neuer (5) G. Nordahl (6) A. Vidal (7) L. Kubala (8) Zito (9) M. Kaltz (10) J. Masopust (11) R. Perfumo (12) R. Gordillo (13) C. Panucci [Done]
Money Spent
  1. 2mufc0 - (1) 80m (2) 160m (3) 30m (4) 80m
  2. Oaencha - (1) 100m (2) 60m (3) 190m (4) 50m (5) 20m (6) 20m (7) 30m (8) 50m (20m)
  3. Enigma - (1) 30m (2) 120m (3) 30m (4) 120m (5) 50m (6) 30m (7) 90m (8) 30m (9) 30m
  4. MJJ - (1) 120m (2) 180m (3) 70m (4) 70m
  5. Isotope - (1) 110m (2) 70m (3) 30m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 50m (7) 30m
  6. Idmanager - (1) 60m (2) 70m (3) 50m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 80m (7) 60m (8) 50m (9) 60m (10) 20m (11) 30m (12) -10m
  7. Lord Sinister - (1) 50m (2) 70m (3) 50m (4) 100m (5) 150m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 20m (11) 20m
  8. Arbitrium - (1) 120m (2) 20m (3) 100m (4) 20m (5) 80m (6) 20m (7) 20m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 50m (11) 20m (12) 20m
  9. Moby - (1) 90m (2) 80m (3) 140m (4) 30m (5) 40m (6) 30m (7) 80m
  10. Pat Mustard - (1) 150m (2) 120m (3) 30m (4) 40m (5) 40m (6) 40m
  11. OneNil - (1) 50m (2) 110m (3) 140m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 20m (8) 30m (9) 50m (10) 50m
  12. Sjor/TRoss - (1) 200m (2) 20m (3) 50m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 60m (7) 20m (8) 30m
  13. Skizzo - (1) 120 (2) 30 (3) 50m (4) 40m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 40m (8) 40m (9) 50m (10) 80m
  14. P-Nut - (1) 80m (2) 110m (3) 30m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 30m (7) 50m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 60m (11) 80m
  15. Crappy/Indnyc - (1) 50m (2) 180m (3) 50m (4) 50m (5) 20m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 30m
  16. Raevictus- (1) 20m (2) 170m (3) 110m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 30m (10) 50m (11) 30m (12) 20m (13) 30m
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Hazard - Purchased by Arbitrium for 20m available for 30m
 

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20/02 - 06:36 - Sebastiano Rossi - Isotope - 20m

20/02 - 06:36 - Ibrahimovic - Isotope - 50m

20/02 - 07:29 - Mauro Silva - Skizzo - 20M

20/02 - 07:29 - Kahn - Skizzo - 50M

20/02 - 08.32 - A Kopke - 2mufc0 - 20m

20/02- 09.08- De Vecchi- MJJ-20m

20/02 - 09.08- Leandro Ferreira- MJJ-20m

20/02 - 09.11- B.Wright- MJJ-20m

20/02- 09.15- S.Ramos- MJJ-20m

20/02 - 09.20- S Gerrard-MJJ 20m

20/02 - 11.00 - Mackay - Moby - 20m

20/02 - 11.00 - Blanchflower - Moby - 30m

20/02 - 12:30 - T Adams - Enigma/TRV - 20m

20/02 - 12:54 - Lewandowski - P-Nut - 20m

20/02 - 12:57- Santiago canizares-MJJ-20m

20/02 - 13.21 - Van Hanegem - 2mufc0 - 50m

20/02 - 13:47 - D. Albertini - Oeancha - 20m

20/02 - 13.47 - G. Pique - Oeancha - 20m

20/02- 13.52 - Roy Keane - Crappy/Indync - 80m

20/02 - 15:35 - I. Viktor - Pat Mustard - 20m

20/02 - 15:35 - W. Zmuda - Pat Mustard - 20m

20/02 - 15:37 - Pessotto - onenil -20m

20/02 - 15:50 - N. Liedholm (manager) - onenil - 20m

20/02 - 16:23 - Yaya Toure - Arbitrium- 30m

20/02 - 17:05 - L. Riva - Crappy/Indnyc - 40m

20/02 - 17:52 - Robson - Sjor - 80m

20/02 - 18:01 - Bale - Arbitrium - 20m

20/02 - 21:00 - F. Couto - Oeancha - 20m
 
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Purchased

  1. 2mufc0 - (1) J. Neeskens (2) J. Cruyff (3) T. Burgnich (4) R. Gullit (5) A. Kopke
  2. Oaencha - (1) G. Batistuta (2) Neymar (3) L. Messi (4) N. Vidic (5) M. Preud’homme (6) G. Gattuso (7) W. Suurbier (8) G. Netzer (9) Maxwell
  3. Enigma/TRV - (1) D. De Gea (2) G. Muller (3) A. Benarrivo (4) B. Moore (5) M. Tardelli (6) A. Simonsen (7) Rivellino (8) I. Netto (9) D. Villa
  4. MJJ - (1) Z. Zidane (2) F. Beckenbauer (3) H. Stoichkov (4) D. Law
  5. Isotope - (1) Ronaldinho (2) A. Robben (3) P. Montero (4) O. Ruggeri (5) B. Schweinsteiger (6) C. Seedorf (7) Lucio (8) S. Rossi (9) Zlatan
  6. Idmanager - (1) G. Rivera (2) Rivaldo (3) A. Hansen (4) G. Meazza (5) G. Zambrotta (6) H. Chumpitaz (7) O. Varela (8) J. Tigana (9) G. Weah (10) A. Peruzzi (11) A. Demyanenko (12) E. Abidal
  7. Lord Sinister - (1) Marcelo (2) D. Alves (3) G. Sarosi (4) Redondo (5) M. van Basten (6) W. Schulz (7) H.G. Schwarzenbeck (8) O. Ardiles (9) G. Buchwald (10) J. Oblak (11) J. Bozsik
  8. Arbitrium - (1) G. Facchetti (2) P. Lahm (3) M. Sammer (4) D. Beckham (5) J. Kohler (6) J. Stam (7) H. Kane (8) E. Hazard (9) B. Bremner (10) J. M. Moreno (11) P. Janes (12) C. Maldini
  9. Moby- (1) J. Zanetti (2) R. Krol (3) F. Baresi (4) R. Ferri (5) J. M. Camacho (6) J. Greaves (7) K-H Rummenigge
  10. Pat Mustard - (1) L. Ronaldo (2) Romario (3) R. Bonhof (4) V. Voronin (5) J. Giles (6) A. Pedernera
  11. OneNil - (1) T. Cerezo (2) P. R. Falcao (3) E. Figueroa (4) G. Mendieta (5) Maicon (6) G. Lato (7) Emerson Leao (8) C. Puyol (9) L. Suarez (10) R. Rensenbrink
  12. Sjor/TRoss - (1) G. Best (2) O. Bergmark (3) D. Godin (4) L. Bonucci (5) W. Zenga (6) G. Souness (7) J-S Park (8) K. Dalglish
  13. Skizzo - (1) Zico (2) M. Coluna (3) T. Finney (4) C. Gentile (5) G. Chiellini (6) McGrain (7) L. Junior (8) P. Briegel (9) U. Seeler (10) D. Dzajic (11) M. Silva (12) Kahn[Done]
  14. P-Nut - (1) Socrates (2) P. Nedved (3) N. Stiles (4) P. Evra (5) J. Johnstone (6) A. Spencer (7) L. Blanc (8) M. Carrick (9) T. Courtois (10) C. Ferrara (11) C. Alberto
  15. Crappy/Indnyc - (1) D. Irwin (2) D. Maradona (3) D. Alaba (4) F. Hierro (5) R. Clemence (6) T. Silva (7) M. Kempes (8) E. Abidal
  16. RaeVictus (1) N. Santos (2) Pelé (3) G. Scirea (4) M. Neuer (5) G. Nordahl (6) A. Vidal (7) L. Kubala (8) Zito (9) M. Kaltz (10) J. Masopust (11) R. Perfumo (12) R. Gordillo (13) C. Panucci [Done]
Money Spent
  1. 2mufc0 - (1) 80m (2) 160m (3) 30m (4) 80m (5) 20m
  2. Oaencha - (1) 100m (2) 60m (3) 190m (4) 50m (5) 20m (6) 20m (7) 30m (8) 50m (20m)
  3. Enigma - (1) 30m (2) 120m (3) 30m (4) 120m (5) 50m (6) 30m (7) 90m (8) 30m (9) 30m
  4. MJJ - (1) 120m (2) 180m (3) 70m (4) 70m
  5. Isotope - (1) 110m (2) 70m (3) 30m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 50m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 50m
  6. Idmanager - (1) 60m (2) 70m (3) 50m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 80m (7) 60m (8) 50m (9) 60m (10) 20m (11) 30m (12) -10m
  7. Lord Sinister - (1) 50m (2) 70m (3) 50m (4) 100m (5) 150m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 20m (11) 20m
  8. Arbitrium - (1) 120m (2) 20m (3) 100m (4) 20m (5) 80m (6) 20m (7) 20m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 50m (11) 20m (12) 20m
  9. Moby - (1) 90m (2) 80m (3) 140m (4) 30m (5) 40m (6) 30m (7) 80m
  10. Pat Mustard - (1) 150m (2) 120m (3) 30m (4) 40m (5) 40m (6) 40m
  11. OneNil - (1) 50m (2) 110m (3) 140m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 20m (8) 30m (9) 50m (10) 50m
  12. Sjor/TRoss - (1) 200m (2) 20m (3) 50m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 60m (7) 20m (8) 30m
  13. Skizzo - (1) 120 (2) 30 (3) 50m (4) 40m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 40m (8) 40m (9) 50m (10) 80m (11) 20m (12) 50m
  14. P-Nut - (1) 80m (2) 110m (3) 30m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 30m (7) 50m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 60m (11) 80m
  15. Crappy/Indnyc - (1) 50m (2) 180m (3) 50m (4) 50m (5) 20m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 30m
  16. Raevictus- (1) 20m (2) 170m (3) 110m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 30m (10) 50m (11) 30m (12) 20m (13) 30m
TRANSFER LIST

Hazard - Purchased by Arbitrium for 20m available for 30m
 
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Purchased
  1. 2mufc0 - (1) J. Neeskens (2) J. Cruyff (3) T. Burgnich (4) R. Gullit (5) A. Kopke
  2. Oaencha - (1) G. Batistuta (2) Neymar (3) L. Messi (4) N. Vidic (5) M. Preud’homme (6) G. Gattuso (7) W. Suurbier (8) G. Netzer (9) Maxwell
  3. Enigma/TRV - (1) D. De Gea (2) G. Muller (3) A. Benarrivo (4) B. Moore (5) M. Tardelli (6) A. Simonsen (7) Rivellino (8) I. Netto (9) D. Villa
  4. MJJ - (1) Z. Zidane (2) F. Beckenbauer (3) H. Stoichkov (4) D. Law
  5. Isotope - (1) Ronaldinho (2) A. Robben (3) P. Montero (4) O. Ruggeri (5) B. Schweinsteiger (6) C. Seedorf (7) Lucio (8) S. Rossi (9) Z. Ibrahimovic
  6. Idmanager - (1) G. Rivera (2) Rivaldo (3) A. Hansen (4) G. Meazza (5) G. Zambrotta (6) H. Chumpitaz (7) O. Varela (8) J. Tigana (9) G. Weah (10) A. Peruzzi (11) A. Demyanenko (12) E. Abidal
  7. Lord Sinister - (1) Marcelo (2) D. Alves (3) G. Sarosi (4) Redondo (5) M. van Basten (6) W. Schulz (7) H.G. Schwarzenbeck (8) O. Ardiles (9) G. Buchwald (10) J. Oblak (11) J. Bozsik
  8. Arbitrium - (1) G. Facchetti (2) P. Lahm (3) M. Sammer (4) D. Beckham (5) J. Kohler (6) J. Stam (7) H. Kane (8) E. Hazard (9) B. Bremner (10) J. M. Moreno (11) P. Janes (12) C. Maldini
  9. Moby- (1) J. Zanetti (2) R. Krol (3) F. Baresi (4) R. Ferri (5) J. M. Camacho (6) J. Greaves (7) K-H Rummenigge
  10. Pat Mustard - (1) L. Ronaldo (2) Romario (3) R. Bonhof (4) V. Voronin (5) J. Giles (6) A. Pedernera
  11. OneNil - (1) T. Cerezo (2) P. R. Falcao (3) E. Figueroa (4) G. Mendieta (5) Maicon (6) G. Lato (7) Emerson Leao (8) C. Puyol (9) L. Suarez (10) R. Rensenbrink
  12. Sjor/TRoss - (1) G. Best (2) O. Bergmark (3) D. Godin (4) L. Bonucci (5) W. Zenga (6) G. Souness (7) J-S Park (8) K. Dalglish
  13. Skizzo - (1) Zico (2) M. Coluna (3) T. Finney (4) C. Gentile (5) G. Chiellini (6) D. McGrain (7) L. Junior (8) P. Briegel (9) U. Seeler (10) D. Dzajic (11) M. Silva (12) O. Kahn [Done]
  14. P-Nut - (1) Socrates (2) P. Nedved (3) N. Stiles (4) P. Evra (5) J. Johnstone (6) A. Spencer (7) L. Blanc (8) M. Carrick (9) T. Courtois (10) C. Ferrara (11) C. Alberto
  15. Crappy/Indnyc - (1) D. Irwin (2) D. Maradona (3) D. Alaba (4) F. Hierro (5) R. Clemence (6) T. Silva (7) M. Kempes (8) E. Abidal
  16. RaeVictus (1) N. Santos (2) Pelé (3) G. Scirea (4) M. Neuer (5) G. Nordahl (6) A. Vidal (7) L. Kubala (8) Zito (9) M. Kaltz (10) J. Masopust (11) R. Perfumo (12) R. Gordillo (13) C. Panucci [Done]
Money Spent
  1. 2mufc0 - (1) 80m (2) 160m (3) 30m (4) 80m (5) 20m
  2. Oaencha - (1) 100m (2) 60m (3) 190m (4) 50m (5) 20m (6) 20m (7) 30m (8) 50m (9) 20m
  3. Enigma - (1) 30m (2) 120m (3) 30m (4) 120m (5) 50m (6) 30m (7) 90m (8) 30m (9) 30m
  4. MJJ - (1) 120m (2) 180m (3) 70m (4) 70m
  5. Isotope - (1) 110m (2) 70m (3) 30m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 50m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 50m
  6. Idmanager - (1) 60m (2) 70m (3) 50m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 80m (7) 60m (8) 50m (9) 60m (10) 20m (11) 30m (12) -10m
  7. Lord Sinister - (1) 50m (2) 70m (3) 50m (4) 100m (5) 150m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 20m (11) 20m
  8. Arbitrium - (1) 120m (2) 20m (3) 100m (4) 20m (5) 80m (6) 20m (7) 20m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 50m (11) 20m (12) 20m
  9. Moby - (1) 90m (2) 80m (3) 140m (4) 30m (5) 40m (6) 30m (7) 80m
  10. Pat Mustard - (1) 150m (2) 120m (3) 30m (4) 40m (5) 40m (6) 40m
  11. OneNil - (1) 50m (2) 110m (3) 140m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 20m (8) 30m (9) 50m (10) 50m
  12. Sjor/TRoss - (1) 200m (2) 20m (3) 50m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 60m (7) 20m (8) 30m
  13. Skizzo - (1) 120 (2) 30 (3) 50m (4) 40m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 40m (8) 40m (9) 50m (10) 80m (11) 20m (12) 50m
  14. P-Nut - (1) 80m (2) 110m (3) 30m (4) 50m (5) 50m (6) 30m (7) 50m (8) 20m (9) 20m (10) 60m (11) 80m
  15. Crappy/Indnyc - (1) 50m (2) 180m (3) 50m (4) 50m (5) 20m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 30m
  16. Raevictus- (1) 20m (2) 170m (3) 110m (4) 30m (5) 30m (6) 30m (7) 30m (8) 20m (9) 30m (10) 50m (11) 30m (12) 20m (13) 30m
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Hazard - Purchased by Arbitrium for 20m available for 30m
 
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Well of course, but if he'd be the liability in the defensive line and rightly targetted when up against elite attacker. Almost anytime he has faced an elite attacker like Messi, Ronaldinho, Neymar, even Suarez he was falling far too much on his arse for my liking.

It's not only playing as a man marker, he has how many - 5 red cards against Barca and 24 in total? And that is not including the number of times he should've walked the pitch.

Sure he has many positive attributes, but not many are in pure defensive sense. In an all time situation where he's facing one of the best players in history you'd need every defender in your line up to hold his own in 1 on 1 situations, not depend on others to cover his ass.

In hypothetical situations and all time draft/players, he'll be isolated on 1 on 1 far too often, creating numerical advantage for the opposition when he's beaten.
I agree with discipline and rashness being the concern, but I'd say he is nowhere near as bad as he used to be. I don't watch Real all that often, mind.
 

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Can't believe you junkies have turned this around so quickly. Haven't followed but I was under the impression it would be less frantic beforehand.
 

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I agree with discipline and rashness being the concern, but I'd say he is nowhere near as bad as he used to be. I don't watch Real all that often, mind.
He’s not. When he squares a defender up one on one, my moneys on Ramos every single time. Sometimes steps out when he shouldn’t, but he can still recover.

He’s one of the few centre backs these days (maybe even the only) who commands a bit of fear and respect for both defence and attack.
 

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Can't believe you junkies have turned this around so quickly. Haven't followed but I was under the impression it would be less frantic beforehand.
I blame Pillow.. so much for the madness, bit too well organised if you ask me.
 

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He’s not. When he squares a defender up one on one, my moneys on Ramos every single time. Sometimes steps out when he shouldn’t, but he can still recover.

He’s one of the few centre backs these days (maybe even the only) who commands a bit of fear and respect for both defence and attack.
That's a good point, with many a defender once beaten they stay beaten.
 

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