The film is literally 10 years in the making. That's a pretty big build up. And it literally ends on a cliffhanger.
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No they don't. I mean there's an attempt to put this stuff in but its not done nearly well enough to have any effect. It's just one mindless fight scene after another with little to no build up. People whose involvement should be significant just given a token 5 seconds between each mass punch up. It's basically just 160 minutes of people hitting each other with things.
That wasn't a cliffhanger. We all already know what is going to happen next.
Yeah, that's Simply not true.
No, we don't.
Yes we do. The ending was the worst bit of the film. Leaves the sequel with only one place to go.
You can speculate other possibilities, but you know what's actually going to happen
When every other person has literally used spoilers then it’s fecking manners to do the same. You’re on very shaky ground in this forum as it is
Some of you lot are so weird 
You not only complain about others actually liking it but you come on here to state why you don't like it, why you don't like the genre, but on top of that spend so much time trying to convince others why your opinion is right and why others shouldn't like it as well and insult them on top
It's like you are disappointed other people are happy and try and find every fault and if people disagree / respond it's the usual 'meh, so predictable, pointless movie anyway'
You not only complain about others actually liking it but you come on here to state why you don't like it, why you don't like the genre, but on top of that spend so much time trying to convince others why your opinion is right and why others shouldn't like it as well and insult them on top
It's like you are disappointed other people are happy and try and find every fault and if people disagree / respond it's the usual 'meh, so predictable, pointless movie anyway'
We have an idea, but it was still a cliffhanger. If not for the comics which they are following that would of been the cliff hanger of all cliffhangers. Cinema I watched it in was sat in stunned silence.
Saw the movie can we say spoilers yet?
It was a good movie not the best but top 5. Thanos is a bad ass.
It was a good movie not the best but top 5. Thanos is a bad ass.
I’m not a huge Marvel fan and I’ve missed 3-4 of the recent movies but I watched Infinity War last night and fecking loved it. Watching it on IMAX 3D was next level stuff, one of the best hero movies I’ve seen from Marvel.
What did you expect? It's a comic film. You think the bad guy wins in both? I'm lost.
I'm curious to know what the "only one" place is that the movie will go from that ending.
They executed the happenings of this film perfectly.
Just to be clear... this is a threat of punishment despite me not breaking the rules (literally explicitly following the rules), respondning after someone else had clearly just posted spoilers and then being called a “twat” for following said rules?
To be fair mate, I think he just wanted some courtesy. After noodle mentioned it, I think the best thing would have been to edit the post and spoiler it out of courtesy rather than playing the "I'm following the rules to the T" card.
That's my twopence anyhow's.
That’s fair enough. I haven’t posted any spoilers since. Just seems very Ott
Just like we knew one of Captain America/Iron man were going to die? Those sequels could have different characters all together or better yet, be cancelled after the next Avengers. You know nothing.
There lots of ways this film can go - to suggest that it's not a cliff hanger is truly bizzare:
- The avengers can be truly dead (highly unlikely but it can happen if thats how they want to end the franchise).
- Those killed by the click are stuck in the Soul stone, explaining how Thanos was able to speak to a child Gamora. Soul stone might need to be destroyed to bring them back. No idea how though.
- Dr Strange may have cast a spell on his Time Stone prior to giving it to Thanos, perhaps having it reverse after a particular incident or something like that.
- Iron Man is clearly significant since Strange ranked him over the Time Stone despite specifically saying its the other way round. He's seen the future so we know there's something important that Iron Man does at some point, but no idea what.
Is Gamora dead? She didn't die from the snap so maybe she can't return. But she was 'traded' for the soul stone so maybe she can return if the Soul stone is destroyed.
Is Vision dead? Looks it but the Black Panther team did a lot of work on him prior to the disturbance and she did say she was almost done. They spent a big segment on that surgery + the whole talk about how he can survive without the stone if they do the procedure. They haven't explained it for nothing so maybe she has done enough to revive him, perhaps. Perhaps not.
Basically they can go in lots of directions with this. It was brilliant.
- Those killed by the click are stuck in the Soul stone, explaining how Thanos was able to speak to a child Gamora. Soul stone might need to be destroyed to bring them back. No idea how though.
- Dr Strange may have cast a spell on his Time Stone prior to giving it to Thanos, perhaps having it reverse after a particular incident or something like that.
- Iron Man is clearly significant since Strange ranked him over the Time Stone despite specifically saying its the other way round. He's seen the future so we know there's something important that Iron Man does at some point, but no idea what.
Is Gamora dead? She didn't die from the snap so maybe she can't return. But she was 'traded' for the soul stone so maybe she can return if the Soul stone is destroyed.
Is Vision dead? Looks it but the Black Panther team did a lot of work on him prior to the disturbance and she did say she was almost done. They spent a big segment on that surgery + the whole talk about how he can survive without the stone if they do the procedure. They haven't explained it for nothing so maybe she has done enough to revive him, perhaps. Perhaps not.
Basically they can go in lots of directions with this. It was brilliant.
I think they'll probably shoe-horn in an explanation for half the Asgardian transport ship being spared by Thanos along with Valkyrie or something in the next one.
Didn't throw the moon, unfortunately. He just fractured its surface and rained small pieces down on them.
They wanted to catch him off guard, which was a stupid plan anyway until the rest of the Guardians got involved.
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Always a big fan of the “you can’t criticise this film because it’s for the nerds/fans/obsessives etc, and any problems you may have of it as an actual piece of art or filmmaking are irrelevant because references and comics and stuff” school of film appraisal.
That’s always super fun and grown up.
That’s always super fun and grown up.
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Noodle is right
that having the people “dead” at the end is obviously telegraphing that they will amend it later on. I think they would have been better keeping Spider-Man and Black Panther alive... at least make it somewhat believable that these characters could be dead.
I mean add in Black Widow and keep Spidey and T’challa alive and the conversation changes.
However I think it’s pretty clear that the characters have been kept for a big “goodbye” next time. Some of them will be sacrificed bringing back the heroes and it’ll be fun seeing the journey that leads them there. It’s basically the cast of Avengers 1 with Rocket there I imagine to explain how they can get around in a spaceship.
So while we know the others are coming back... it adds more suspense in part two for which of the characters will survive the journey.
My prediction is Tony dies, Steve is crippled and takes over SHIELD and Thor leads the new generation.
I mean add in Black Widow and keep Spidey and T’challa alive and the conversation changes.
However I think it’s pretty clear that the characters have been kept for a big “goodbye” next time. Some of them will be sacrificed bringing back the heroes and it’ll be fun seeing the journey that leads them there. It’s basically the cast of Avengers 1 with Rocket there I imagine to explain how they can get around in a spaceship.
So while we know the others are coming back... it adds more suspense in part two for which of the characters will survive the journey.
My prediction is Tony dies, Steve is crippled and takes over SHIELD and Thor leads the new generation.
steve Rodgers or Ironman will make the ultimate sacrifice. The other will then retire out of guilt leaving other characters to come forward.
Also from the after credits scene, captain marvel has been called by nick fury. We can’t have 2 captains running around can we? Therefore Rodgers to die imho
Also from the after credits scene, captain marvel has been called by nick fury. We can’t have 2 captains running around can we? Therefore Rodgers to die imho
I think if they are not dead the characters will show up again. Hence my belief Tony is done and Cap will retire (maybe become a colonel). RDJ is looking older whereas Chris Evans could continue his role just in a reduced capacity
Gotta agree on this. Doesn't take anything away from the movie though for me, was a cracker and whilst I find most Marvel films entertaining I'm not a huge fan. Although maybe after this I am.
Mate, I am a massive Marvel fan. I started reading based on the comics, I still to this day follow the events and have always loved so many of the characters.
To see these films be this good is a dream come true.
Some of you lot are so weird
You not only complain about others actually liking it but you come on here to state why you don't like it, why you don't like the genre, but on top of that spend so much time trying to convince others why your opinion is right and why others shouldn't like it as well and insult them on top
It's like you are disappointed other people are happy and try and find every fault and if people disagree / respond it's the usual 'meh, so predictable, pointless movie anyway'
I haven't insulted anyone, or offered any real strong opinions on the film other than that it just wasn't that great. People are allwoed to not think this was the greatest film ever made, and are allowed to say so. It's hardly the most controversial topic to have an opinion on.
The only insult I've seen is someone telling Silva he needs to "rethink his life" because he didn't like the film, which is a bit of an ironic statement really*
*that's probably an insult
No it wouldn't have been. They have films lined up for hallf the people they killed off. No matter what spin you put on it, everyone knows this, and everyone knows they aren't actually going to kill off half the cast of their upcoming film franchise and have to rip up god knows how man casts and scripts, and throw hundreds of millions of pounds in guaranteed revenue away, just for the sake of an ending to a film.
The more annoying thing about it though, was how fudged it felt. It seemed obvious to me that this wasn't originally how this film was supposed to end, and at some point they've sacrificed what was probably a better structured overall story for some blockbuster ending, which just didn't work. It instantly felt like a let down.
There was no stunned silence. People are in silence because they're watching a film. When it ended everyone was just "oh, ok then"...if there was any crediblle reason to believe the people who died might stay dead, it might have had the shock factor, but that's where it falls down. It just instantly seems like a waste of time, that will now result in a significant waste of time in the second movie
The more annoying thing about it though, was how fudged it felt. It seemed obvious to me that this wasn't originally how this film was supposed to end, and at some point they've sacrificed what was probably a better structured overall story for some blockbuster ending, which just didn't work. It instantly felt like a let down.
There was no stunned silence. People are in silence because they're watching a film. When it ended everyone was just "oh, ok then"...if there was any crediblle reason to believe the people who died might stay dead, it might have had the shock factor, but that's where it falls down. It just instantly seems like a waste of time, that will now result in a significant waste of time in the second movie
The happenings?
There is only one place it can go because of what happened at the end, and we even have more than half an idea how it's going to go there because Dr Strange basically gave it away, and then the end credits scene gave it away some more. I mean, stop kidding yourself, really. Obviously you can't predict the entire plot of the film, but the arc to it is fairly obvious, and the annoying bit is that because of the ending, you already know there is going to be a fair degree of silliness involved.
Liked it a lot but:
- The "Why is Gamora" line was hands down the best moment in the film
That line completely slayed me.
Drax was one of the most underrated characters in that film, in my opinion. Great performance.
Given we already know what films are coming up....
It's immediately obvious that Spiderman and the Guardians aren't dead. There is absolutely zero chance they would have a Homecoming sequel with a different Spiderman, or a GOTG film without nearly every Guardian. Zero.
Which means the deaths at the end of the film won't stand. Which leaves the alleged cliffhanger totally devoid of consequence.
You don't need to know anything about the comic books to realise that as I've never read a comic book in my life.
Which means the deaths at the end of the film won't stand. Which leaves the alleged cliffhanger totally devoid of consequence.
You don't need to know anything about the comic books to realise that as I've never read a comic book in my life.
Might wanna spoiler that
True but for me there is only one Spiderman, and that is Peter Parker. Would also be pointless to write Tom Holland out of Spiderman scripts, as it would me a 4th actor to portray Spiderman in 15 years. Thus adding more convolution of the Spiderman movie verse.
Besides, the only way Tom Holland does not act as Spiderman again will be due to the ongoing issues with Marvel Studio's and Sony.
Who actually said you cant criticise the film?
Going in the with thought its going to suck cos youve watched others and thought they sucked, then being surprised you think this one sucks is pretty daft however.
I didnt say you and I kept it general for that very reason. It happens in other threads that are related to movies like this.
Youre allowed an opinion, nobody is saying otherwise. But dont be surprised when people dont agree or respond / defend it.
This thread is giving me Deja vu from the Game of Thrones ones. The non-readers all speculating about what is going to happen and the smug readers knowing what will happen.
Yes, that was hilariousThat line completely slayed me.
Drax was one of the most underrated characters in that film, in my opinion. Great performance.
Also the whole point about the second movie arc being predictable is a silly one, since we all knew what the arc for this one was going to be given the build to it as well. The whole thing has been 10 years in the making. We knew what the arc for this movie was going to be without the need for trailers due to how the build up from previous movies has been. Its a bizarre statement. (You could say the same thing for the first Avengers too).
*that's probably an insult
The happenings?
There is only one place it can go because of what happened at the end, and we even have more than half an idea how it's going to go there because Dr Strange basically gave it away, and then the end credits scene gave it away some more. I mean, stop kidding yourself, really. Obviously you can't predict the entire plot of the film, but the arc to it is fairly obvious, and the annoying bit is that because of the ending, you already know there is going to be a fair degree of silliness involved.
The arc was always obvious. I'm not sure what you were expecting when you walked into a comic film like this.
Regarding sillyness, it literally has aliens, wizards gods and freaks. Its a franchise that sells on a lot of silliness.
Honestly, I think this was how it was supposed to end, and thats why they have still to release the title of the next movie as they know it will spoil this ending. I do kind of agree on who died and who didnt gives away it will be reversed, but it was always going to be reversed though, as you couldnt simply have the heroes let half a universe die. All the originals lived too, so they get a final swansong in the next flick. The big question is how, and if everyone comes back and what it costs them.
I agree with Wumminator that if they'd chosen who to kill off with a view to at least leaving the chance they might not come back, it would have worked a lot better. Realistically I think that would have been hard to pull off though.
I think they'd have been better leaving it with Thanos looking seemingly unbeatable but not having actually inacted his plan yet...which also would have meant they could do away with this half of all life idea (which really is very silly), and just had everyone under threat. Thanos having such a silly purpose/plan takes something away from him for me, because the reason for his plan/purpose is just so astonishingly dumb. It's the worst motive any Marvel villain has had, and they've all had fairly rubbish ones
Also, I think it's a given Iron Man dies. He obviously has something to do with reversing things and bringing everyone back, because Strange went into the future and forsaw only one way to win, and then as a result gave up his infinity stone in order to ensure Stark's life was spared, so Stark is obviously key. Strange then apologising to him saying there was no other way makes it fairly clear Stark is going to have to make the biggest sacrifice. Also "I hope they remember you"...I mean again, they've piled on the obviousness somewhat thick.
Captain Marvel obviously shows up. At the end everyone teams up to beat Thanos, who, despite them making him fairly bad ass, does seem quite easy to beat still, I mean, for someone who is the most powerful being in the universe apparrently. Spiderman and co nearly beat him by just tying him up. Thor basically did beat him just by hitting him with a hammer.
He's a pretty good villain by Marvel film standards, but I'd loved it if the film had built up to him coming to earth, then arriving in the secoond part of the film sometime and just basically laying waste to everyone and everything in his way...I mean he did do this, but it was in the space of a 10 second slow motion clip in the woods. Not really a big entrance. I'd have had him show up and just level a city or something, then beat the crap out of everyone all at the same time, but that's just me. I didn't really think all the pointless side quests and splitting up added much
I think they'd have been better leaving it with Thanos looking seemingly unbeatable but not having actually inacted his plan yet...which also would have meant they could do away with this half of all life idea (which really is very silly), and just had everyone under threat. Thanos having such a silly purpose/plan takes something away from him for me, because the reason for his plan/purpose is just so astonishingly dumb. It's the worst motive any Marvel villain has had, and they've all had fairly rubbish ones
Also, I think it's a given Iron Man dies. He obviously has something to do with reversing things and bringing everyone back, because Strange went into the future and forsaw only one way to win, and then as a result gave up his infinity stone in order to ensure Stark's life was spared, so Stark is obviously key. Strange then apologising to him saying there was no other way makes it fairly clear Stark is going to have to make the biggest sacrifice. Also "I hope they remember you"...I mean again, they've piled on the obviousness somewhat thick.
Captain Marvel obviously shows up. At the end everyone teams up to beat Thanos, who, despite them making him fairly bad ass, does seem quite easy to beat still, I mean, for someone who is the most powerful being in the universe apparrently. Spiderman and co nearly beat him by just tying him up. Thor basically did beat him just by hitting him with a hammer.
He's a pretty good villain by Marvel film standards, but I'd loved it if the film had built up to him coming to earth, then arriving in the secoond part of the film sometime and just basically laying waste to everyone and everything in his way...I mean he did do this, but it was in the space of a 10 second slow motion clip in the woods. Not really a big entrance. I'd have had him show up and just level a city or something, then beat the crap out of everyone all at the same time, but that's just me. I didn't really think all the pointless side quests and splitting up added much
Yes, that was hilarious
Loved his new Invisibility powers too.
Can I ask Noodle how do you think the film is going to go? I mean I had my thoughts after seeing it which did seem like there was only one thing that could happen. However I’ve seen set photos from Prt 2 that raise a lot of questions which are making me think it’s going to be vastly different from what the ending suggested.
Also Silliness involved? What does that entail?
Thanos coming in and destroying a city would have been too similar to 'alien invasion needing to be stopped by avengers'nd I would have hated that
So glad they didn't to that route
So glad they didn't to that route
Yup. Thought it was a unique story and was the best manner in which they could display Thanos' power.
Also, Thanos would only kill for an outstanding reason - such as Lokis betrayal, or for the soul stone - in his twisted mind, he feels he's giving everyone the chance to live or die. Thus wrecking havoc on a city wouldn't be his way.
@noodlehair
In Infinity Gauntlet, it's Death who asks Thanos to use his power to wipe out half of the Universe. Thanos does so because he loves her and wants her approval. Maybe, they could have incorporated that into this movie.