3.35 in. The music that was playing when Thor made his entrance to Wakanda. Gave me goosebumps.
When Cap showed up.
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3.35 in. The music that was playing when Thor made his entrance to Wakanda. Gave me goosebumps.
When Cap showed up.
Fantastic movie. Greatly exceeded my expectations
I said months back I had no idea how or if they could convey the menace and terror of Thanos well enough in the allocated time. I did expect him to get brief screen time in keeping with what we usually see of bad guys in movies, so it was quite the turnaround for the film to essentially be about him.
It's really good that they did that and without being overly graphic (with the movie not being 18) they conveyed the message, even though they made him more merciful than he should be.
I felt there were huge swathes on the film that were more Star Wars than Star Wars has become, which was an interesting take on things and the scope and magnitude of the movie and having it all come together on such a scale really is impressive from a blending perspective.
Vision has been terribly underplayed and underused in this series. I don't know if that's because they don't know what to do with him or if it's because it's a convenient plot device, but he and Wanda are the two they've toned down massively to make a lot of other things come together as they have.
They also circumvented the power of the stones as individual entities, really. Yes, when all combined, they got the message across... but it shouldn't be so easy to acquire them, although the Soul stone, in this, came at a price for Thanos and could arguably be stated as the hardest of all for him to claim.
Even though I knew Josh Brolin was Thanos, I kept thinking it looked and sounded just like Ron Pearlman
The quibbles regarding this aren't of any substance in the grandscheme of things, even for a comic reader, imo. What Marvel have, and continue to do, is make cinematic experiences that constantly outdo one another. They're fine-tuning and crafting and these films have much more semblance than the offerings from a few years ago. In relation to this, DC are so far behind, it'd be merciful if someone threw the towel in for them because they'll never get near these films.
I watch all of them in IMAX 3D and I cannot really comprehend watching these films in a lesser format because they really are intended for the full cinematic experience. The transition from that to home theatre also loses a significant amount of the impact you get from watching these films as they were intended to be viewed. To date, these are the pinnacle of popcorn movies, and it'll take the upcoming Avatar's to top them, I think.
I think, in terms of scoring these films, the markers are difficult. Cinematic experience is a mark all of its own, for me, and in that sense, I'd give this a 9/10. In a 3D Imax, few films are as engrossing.
The test of time and repeat viewing some time down the road is another mark entirely, and it's where a lot of films that were once supremely rated get knocked down notches under scrutiny.
Plot, coherence and how everything comes together should be a mark, too. If this were to be divided into acts, I think the first two acts (beginning and middle) are stronger than the third, but for the impact of Thanos' realisation.
I don't really get the people who don't like comic book movies going off to watch them and then predictably slating them for being... comic book movies. That goes for critics and the public alike - if they're weary of the genre and tilted before they even watch, the reviews they then come up with have to be taken with a handful of salt, imo.
Anyway, this is well worth the money and a must see on the biggest and best screen you can afford to see it on in the theater. The bar keeps getting lifted and there a few precedents now set with this one that upcoming films will have to try and match or better, which is what it's all about, as far as I'm concerned. Damn Disney, but they making the best of the MU.
It's really good that they did that and without being overly graphic (with the movie not being 18) they conveyed the message, even though they made him more merciful than he should be.
I felt there were huge swathes on the film that were more Star Wars than Star Wars has become, which was an interesting take on things and the scope and magnitude of the movie and having it all come together on such a scale really is impressive from a blending perspective.
Vision has been terribly underplayed and underused in this series. I don't know if that's because they don't know what to do with him or if it's because it's a convenient plot device, but he and Wanda are the two they've toned down massively to make a lot of other things come together as they have.
They also circumvented the power of the stones as individual entities, really. Yes, when all combined, they got the message across... but it shouldn't be so easy to acquire them, although the Soul stone, in this, came at a price for Thanos and could arguably be stated as the hardest of all for him to claim.
Even though I knew Josh Brolin was Thanos, I kept thinking it looked and sounded just like Ron Pearlman
The quibbles regarding this aren't of any substance in the grandscheme of things, even for a comic reader, imo. What Marvel have, and continue to do, is make cinematic experiences that constantly outdo one another. They're fine-tuning and crafting and these films have much more semblance than the offerings from a few years ago. In relation to this, DC are so far behind, it'd be merciful if someone threw the towel in for them because they'll never get near these films.
I watch all of them in IMAX 3D and I cannot really comprehend watching these films in a lesser format because they really are intended for the full cinematic experience. The transition from that to home theatre also loses a significant amount of the impact you get from watching these films as they were intended to be viewed. To date, these are the pinnacle of popcorn movies, and it'll take the upcoming Avatar's to top them, I think.
I think, in terms of scoring these films, the markers are difficult. Cinematic experience is a mark all of its own, for me, and in that sense, I'd give this a 9/10. In a 3D Imax, few films are as engrossing.
The test of time and repeat viewing some time down the road is another mark entirely, and it's where a lot of films that were once supremely rated get knocked down notches under scrutiny.
Plot, coherence and how everything comes together should be a mark, too. If this were to be divided into acts, I think the first two acts (beginning and middle) are stronger than the third, but for the impact of Thanos' realisation.
I don't really get the people who don't like comic book movies going off to watch them and then predictably slating them for being... comic book movies. That goes for critics and the public alike - if they're weary of the genre and tilted before they even watch, the reviews they then come up with have to be taken with a handful of salt, imo.
Anyway, this is well worth the money and a must see on the biggest and best screen you can afford to see it on in the theater. The bar keeps getting lifted and there a few precedents now set with this one that upcoming films will have to try and match or better, which is what it's all about, as far as I'm concerned. Damn Disney, but they making the best of the MU.
I know them, just didn't know which appeared in the film, and what were their names there. As Cull Obsidian was actually an alias of the group in the comics, while the giant was called Black Dwarf, so, that was changed at least. Guess it's also missing Supergiant and Black Swan.
Listened to the entire soundtrack yesterday, I don't think its viable to listen to as a standalone.
Booked tickets to see it in an IMAX, went there only to be told that movie was cancelled because the screen was broken. Gahhhh!
So we ended up watching in normal screen
The movie itself was...
‘Kin awesome! Loved it
So we ended up watching in normal screen
The movie itself was...
‘Kin awesome! Loved it
That's a shame. I watched it in standard too, as no imax where I currently live. Going into Manchester next weekend to watch it again in imax
The emotional hits would mean a lot more if death actually meant something in this universe.
The sequel isn't going to help that problem
The sequel isn't going to help that problem
Has anyone died and come back so far in the MCU? I can't think of anyone.
Without talking about the new film (I've not seen it but have a very good idea of what happens from having read the comics), the only deaths so far in the MCU were in Ragnarok (Thor's mates and dad) and I can't imagine they'll be back.
Not deaths per say but fake out deaths.
Oh thats so sad, what a sacrif..oh never mind.
I think the count was at 12 (per reddit) last year? Before Thor and Black Panther came out
I can only think of Loki (the most famous trickster in the universe) and Nick Fury (the most secretive man in the universe), both of which were pretty obvious. Who are the other 10 before Black Panther and Ragnarok?
Edit, I guess Coulson as well although if you've only watched the films, he's still dead as far as they have ever shown.
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Fecking Groot was the worst example!
Some of those examples are real stretches. Original wasp? Hardly a fake out for a character we never met!
But it all adds to fake death furthering a story.
Even without that I would be rolling my eyes at some of the scenes in IF but it certainly doesn't help the cause!
That list including Elektra, Abomination and Bucky is a bit silly, that's the origin story of the character, not a cheesy fake out!
Groot is the only real fake out and it's not like he just rocked up again the same character. Loki as well I guess but it was a pretty integral part of the story.
If there any superhero in the comics who has not died and come back once or twice? I don't think they take the piss with it is my point.
Groot did die, the new Groot is his son.
It was okay:
I don't really understand Thanos' motivation? He says he wants to bring balance to the universe by wiping out half the universe but how does that solve anything? Couple of generations down the line he'll have to get up from his pseudo-retirement and mumble to himself, 'Well it was fun while it lasted', and go grab a weapon-smith he crippled himself to make another gauntlet? Also it doesn't benefit him at all to keep Thor, and then Tyrion alive. I liked the idea that he avoided killing because he wanted the dispassionate, fair and random outcome the stones would provide but he kills people who anger him or get in his way anyway so there's no reason to keep a lot of these folks alive if he's willing to kill Loki and Heimdall.
The heroes got so little screen time due to how busy it all was, and how much this movie was focused on Thanos. This would have been fine if Thanos was a great villain but, menacing though he is, he horribly underuses the infinity gauntlet. There's no nail-biting mindbending, or brain-muddling reality warping (once is not enough), he just shoots silly beams out of it or squeezes it to cancel out other attacks. They even copped out of letting him hurl a moon down onto Titan, why? If he was going to underuse the gauntlet anyway why not have him take them out hand-to hand like Hulk? That was decent. Have to say, the way he spread and tensed every time he added a stone to his gauntlet was hilarious and completely immersion breaking.
Hulk and Vision are pathetic in this, and Scarlet Witch is underutilised but they end up taking out all of Thanos' minions barring the cultist. Thanos' underlings were far too weak, there wasn't really any tension when they appeared. Why didn't Bucky have an enhanced run like Captain America and Black Panther in the battle? Captain America had about 6 lines, Bucky must have had 3 at most, Black Widow about the same.
The Shuri part was pointless, the trip to nevadellir or whatever with Thor, Groot and Rocket was pretty bad excepting Thor's small opportunity to show his grieving. Tyrion was awful. I don't really like the Guardians of the Galaxy so I won't deal with Pratt being a prat.
The ending has no emotional weight to it besides Okoye and Iron Man parts, a lot of those characters are obviously going to be back.
The heroes got so little screen time due to how busy it all was, and how much this movie was focused on Thanos. This would have been fine if Thanos was a great villain but, menacing though he is, he horribly underuses the infinity gauntlet. There's no nail-biting mindbending, or brain-muddling reality warping (once is not enough), he just shoots silly beams out of it or squeezes it to cancel out other attacks. They even copped out of letting him hurl a moon down onto Titan, why? If he was going to underuse the gauntlet anyway why not have him take them out hand-to hand like Hulk? That was decent. Have to say, the way he spread and tensed every time he added a stone to his gauntlet was hilarious and completely immersion breaking.
Hulk and Vision are pathetic in this, and Scarlet Witch is underutilised but they end up taking out all of Thanos' minions barring the cultist. Thanos' underlings were far too weak, there wasn't really any tension when they appeared. Why didn't Bucky have an enhanced run like Captain America and Black Panther in the battle? Captain America had about 6 lines, Bucky must have had 3 at most, Black Widow about the same.
The Shuri part was pointless, the trip to nevadellir or whatever with Thor, Groot and Rocket was pretty bad excepting Thor's small opportunity to show his grieving. Tyrion was awful. I don't really like the Guardians of the Galaxy so I won't deal with Pratt being a prat.
The ending has no emotional weight to it besides Okoye and Iron Man parts, a lot of those characters are obviously going to be back.
My God, Thor arriving on Wakanda and that score accompanying him hit me on an amazingly emotional level. I’d just started to lose my way with the Wakanda scenes but his arrival was so bad ass it was like...’here we go’ and I was sucked right back in. [/spolier]
Bring me Thanos!!!!
I hope some will really die in the 2nd part. Every one alice would be really cheesy
Wow. Not being difficult here but why did you go and watch it? All the criticisms my 4 year old would have been able to tell you.. and of you don’t like the guardians.. I mean it just sounds like you went wanting to hate it and succeeded.
And no emotional weight? Are you made of stone man?!
Why would you care about characters dying when, as he says, it's already obvious they'll be coming back? The fact that character deaths don't seem to mean anything immediately lowers the emotional stakes in the film. Most of what happens in the film could be totally reversed in the next one, leaving everything that happens here rather inconsequential. So why would there be any emotional weight to the ending? It's a false stop.
I thought it was a lot of fun and comfortably the best Marvel movie so far. The only problem I had with it was the uncertainty at the end: I love my films with a satisfying conclusion.
in fairness, it's all speculation at this point. I had the same viewpoint as you, but really, we don't know how they come back if they come back. There's a sequal to Spiderman? Cool, it could be Miles Morales who might get introduced in an upcoming film. Same with Black Panther. There isn't actually any guarantee that any of them are coming back, other than what we think is most likely.
Well it is a two part movie.
How many of you are watching this without the comics as your base?
How many are watching it with the comics as your base, curious to see what they do and do not take from them?
How many are watching it with the comics as your base, curious to see what they do and do not take from them?
I saw it last night and thought it was brilliant. Still like the first Avengers film the most though, but this is up there.
Ive never read any of the comics so I don't have any preconceptions about which characters are underpowered/overpowered like others seem to moan about
Will watch this Tuesday and do have the comics for a base which is why all the spoilers I've seen don't bother me in the slightest. I know whats coming in the next one as well.
Haven't read the comics
Went to watch it with my younger siblings.
Just seen this last night, really enjoyed it. I feel like the Loki death isn't the end of him for a few reasons. He's a popular character and they killed him off so early. I feel for his 'good guy' arc to fully resolve he will redeem himself to all the Avengers and not just Thor. The 'There won't be a resurrection this time' line screams convincing the audience that that's it for him. But most of all he's the trickster god and he supposedly dies in the most unLoki way imaginable. It's not in Loki's nature to take on someone like Thanos face to face. I can imagine that him and Thor planned out his 'demise' but are actually carrying out a secret plan to take down Thanos. Or else he's just dead for real this time, but I'd be disappointed with how he went out, like I said it was very unLoki.
It is effectively a two part film, although they quietly cut that out of the marketing stuff. I feel that there will and frankly must be permanent deaths in the second one to really stamp the end of this line of movies before they move on to new stuff. I agree that if everyone except one or two filler characters are dead by the end of the second one it would be cheap as hell. But I don't think it will happen. Think about the age of the actors, the contracts they signed, some of the long series of films they've done, as well as news snippets about certain actors saying they probably won't be in stand alone films (Anthony Mackie for one, I believe)
Although I did know about Gamorra's death and the location of the Soul Stone a few months back
Really? Was it leaked? I was lucky to avoid all spoilers for this.
Read people saying deaths won't be permanent, Gamora has to be gone right? Must some sort of magic that stops her being resurrected as she was sacrificed for the soul stone. They try to bring her back would the soul stone go back to that island.
Read people saying deaths won't be permanent, Gamora has to be gone right? Must some sort of magic that stops her being resurrected as she was sacrificed for the soul stone. They try to bring her back would the soul stone go back to that island.
Yep, I think they'll probably trade the soul stone for her life again and/or make the next Guardians of the Galaxy some form of quest involving Adam Warlock to bring her back.
Anyone get that (possible) reference to Iron Man 2 when:
Thanos said “Just a drop of blood” after Tony cut him immediately made me think of Vanko telling Tony in IM2 “If you can make god bleed...”
I have clicked on this thread and blindly scrolled to the bottom without reading any posts.
My mate wants to see it tonight but I haven't seen Black Panther yet. Shall I wait until I've seen BP first or is the viewing experience and plot unaffected by not seeing this film? Cheers
My mate wants to see it tonight but I haven't seen Black Panther yet. Shall I wait until I've seen BP first or is the viewing experience and plot unaffected by not seeing this film? Cheers
I saw it with someone who hadn’t seen Black Panther but has seen all the others. It didn’t detract from the film for him. The Wakanda stuff in Infinity Wars is fairly self explanatory.
Cool cheers mate. Gonna go for it then.
Terrible timing for Vues website to go down in UK! Looks like wel head to Odeon. Called Vue to book and the wait time is 1hr 16mins
I watched it today and I haven't seen Black Panther. Don't think much, if anything went over my head.