Send him on loan and keep Smalling and Jones... hmm
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And that's strange how? He's been with the first team a lot longer than Axel. Has proven himself to be very vocal on the pitch, shown the right attitude when shit hit the fan already. He's the one putting in 6/10 performances when the rest of our team get 4/10.You suggested Scott who is a year older than Axel
I rather see him play than Jones or Smalling or Rojo
Shouldn't have made it sound like age plays a part then
I said he was still a kid. That's not just about age (though it plays a part), it's also very much about development.
But Mctominay is no Thiago nor Marquinhos when it comes to quality. The captain must not be the best player, but he at least has to be good at football especially when he is younger than most. A captain that can't get into the team is not exactly the way to go.
You're saying McTominay can't get into our team or can't play football? He's been one of our most consistent players since OGS arrived. Voted MOTM on the caf 5 times this season, on par with Rashford and only behind Pogba (10) and Shaw (6).
He'll be back to being a championship player on this forum for the summer.
You guys are getting ahead of yourselves with his performances. You're judging McTominay more so on effort and keeping it safe as nothing in the side was going right. In a more dominant side or rather a side where everything is fine, you'll start seeing him in a different light. Think back to Cleverley. He was rightly criticized for not being good enough going forward, and basically hiding despite always having a ton of passes. Apart from McTominay being more combative, his passing isn't all that different from Cleverley and actually slightly worse.
Which is fine, but it's important to keep it in perspective. McTominay was doing a job in a side that needed something, or rather anything. Good for McTominay as it keeps people off his back.
They play different roles, though. They were expected to fulfil different responsibilities which McTominay for the most part has done, while Cleverley rarely did (community shield final aside!).
On topic; I would absolutely love this guy to come in and make one of the centre back positions his own. The timing couldn’t be better in theory. Go on lad!
You're right he's not the most technically gifted player but neither are the likes of Milner. Never said he was going to be our star man going forward, though I think the Cleverley comparison is a bit off because McTominay is very different in that he wins a lot of headers and his style is a lot more physical. The discussion was about who would be fit to be our captain though, not who our best midfielder is, and I think McTominay could make a great captain.
I'm not getting ahead of myself at all, he's been brilliant since Ole arrived. I feel he's best at DM though.
Given there's no way we will be challenging for the title next season, our target is a return to the CL places.
Wan Bissaka - Tuanzebe - Lindelof - Shaw
I honestly think that back line can be good enough with the right midfield in front of it and can grow into a formidable back four over a few seasons. Need to start planning longer term than just throwing money at players like Koulibaly
Wan Bissaka - Tuanzebe - Lindelof - Shaw
I honestly think that back line can be good enough with the right midfield in front of it and can grow into a formidable back four over a few seasons. Need to start planning longer term than just throwing money at players like Koulibaly
I never said they were the same player. I'm just saying that you might start to judge him differently if he had more responsibility.
He's so calm on the ball. I love it.
Unless we're going to play him 20 to 30 times next season, and Villa come up, I would send him back loan to get a full year of Premier League football. But he deserves a chance, which makes things like the Jones renewal even more mind boggling, we have a talented home grown player needed minutes.
I'd bring him back, for sure. He's certainly earned the right to try and hold down a first-team place this summer. As for captaincy, not yet. If he proves himself like anyone else, I'm all for it but not with only five PL games under his belt IMO.
Big game for him today. Been given the run around a little by Mason Bennett so far.
They keep cancelling each other out in all fairness.
He hasn't been given the runaround 
Derby haven't worked a single opportunity to get in behind the Villa defence so far.
Nothing new re Tuanzebe to be honest. Calm and composed, good defending when the balls on the floor. Played out of trouble well on a few occasions, plays well as part of a unit. He hasn't been caught out but you can tell he isn't a aerially dominant.
Derby haven't worked a single opportunity to get in behind the Villa defence so far.
Nothing new re Tuanzebe to be honest. Calm and composed, good defending when the balls on the floor. Played out of trouble well on a few occasions, plays well as part of a unit. He hasn't been caught out but you can tell he isn't a aerially dominant.
It amazes me, it really does, that anyone can watch what has happened up to this point and decide that Mason Bennett has given him the business.He hasn't been given the runaround
Derby haven't worked a single opportunity to get in behind the Villa defence so far.
Nothing new re Tuanzebe to be honest. Calm and composed, good defending when the balls on the floor. Played out of trouble well on a few occasions, plays well as part of a unit. He hasn't been caught out but you can tell he isn't a aerially dominant.
Wasn't it Bennett who pushed Tuanzebe to the ground because he couldn't get to ball?
Nearly had me doubting myself for a second.
Who is going to head the ball out of that lot?
Any team with a striker who can head the ball would have a field day against us.
No way Jones or ROjo should be ahead of Tuanzebe. I can see him doing very well under Ole. Get one CB and promote Tuanzebe and sell Rojo and Jones, we would be fine.
You wouldn't have to play them every single game though would you. Smaldini can come in for the bigger sides
I think even in these days that ball playing seems to be the first thought with a centre defender, that you still need someone to head it, whoever you play.
Especially if you don't have much height elsewhere.
Yep, as flavour of the month ball playing is, you still need height and aerial ability in the Premier league.
That's why it always worries me when we're linked to some high price defender and then someone says they're not particularly dominant.
Maguire would worry me a bit pace wise, but would be as good as you get aerial wise.
Is Tuanzebe really that inadequate aerially? He's hardly short and put on a lot of muscle.
Pace and playing out from the back his obvious strengths.
Pace and playing out from the back his obvious strengths.
Yeah, ideally you want one ball player and one brick wall. We had it perfect with Rio and Vidic.
An aerially dominant CB is what we'll be spending cash on this Summer so I'm not worried about Tuanzebe being a little weak in that area.
That being said, I'll be surprised if he's as weak in the air as some are making out. The Championship is no hiding place for CBs that struggle to compete for high balls.
That being said, I'll be surprised if he's as weak in the air as some are making out. The Championship is no hiding place for CBs that struggle to compete for high balls.
Maguire and Tuanzebe would be a good partnership
Statistically, he wins 3.4 of 5.7 aerial duels per 90. That would make him third best among our current CB's in that area.
Ferdinand could do both though.
Yeah, though I'd expect Lindelof to partner him with Tuanzebe being the backup. Smalling to be Maguire's backup.
How many has he faced in comparison? Curious to know how many more aerial balls are faced in the championship compared with the PL.
I think you guys can forget about Tuanzebe for a while. The best for him is to stay at Aston Villa next season, a team he knows and will pretty much be guaranteed playing time.
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Which is the best outcome for him, and us. Might have to buy an extra centre-half then.
I think it's best for him to establish himself in Manchester United's first team.
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