pratyush_utd
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They want Kounde too. They are just making all new mistakes now.
I think you’ve provided some really good info and dealt well with all of the Frenkie-driven angst so fist play. But the levers are still hilarious. For anyone living outside the Barcelona bubble it’s an utterly ridiculous phrase and it’s embedded in a completely nuts strategy. To see it used so freely just makes it even more amusing.I've tried to explain how all this worked. There is enough information in this thread.
I've tried to explain how all this worked. There is enough information in this thread.
The signing of Raphinha according to the press is paid in 3 installments and the money comes from 10% of the television rights.
If we talk about accounting, between salary and amortization will be €22-24M per year of wage bill.
Here you simply have to add and subtract wage bill to see if it meets the FFP.
We'll see if Auba continues next year. Dembélé renewed for 2 years only.
Money comes from the levers, that word so funny at first but now, apparently, it is no longer funny.
If Barcelona does not comply and has balanced expenses and income, they will not be able to register the players.
They are having an amazing transfer window.They want Kounde too. They are just making all new mistakes now.
The US had an amazing housing market in 2006.They are having an amazing transfer window.
The US had an amazing housing market in 2006.
Spending money they don’t have.They are having an amazing transfer window.
Sure if you are a child and don't care about finances. 50m for a 34yo and 60m for an decent PL winger doesn't seem like amazing deals. Oh and they re-signed DembeleThey are having an amazing transfer window.
It sounds nice and all -- to take a long-term view. But unfortunately, they have elections and with that, you will not have anyone (Presidents) taking long-term views until they are literally on the brink or have been declared bankrupt.Used to be my 2nd favorite team, close behind Ajax. Obviously also because the clubs have quite a lot in common.
However I can't stand them anymore. They've become such a classless bunch, they can go bankrupt for all I care.
What they're doing to Frenkie is bizarre. He's not even the first one as Umtiti and Arthur have been through the same. They treated a club legend like Ronald Koeman like absolute garbage. A club acting so disrespectful towards a club legend is a disgrace.
Not to mention their Super League initiatives. Only for their own benefit, because they have made such a mess of things. This club does not take any responsibility for its own actions and failures.
They have had a huge era with Messi & Co, but lived above their standards to retain them. They could have sold one or two of their stars to be create a solid financial basis for the future, but refused to do so. This decision was good on one end (successfull team), but bad on the other (financial). Instead of taking responsibility for this choice now, they lash out at everything and everyone. What a big disgrace. I'm pretty sure Johan Cruijff is shaming himself in his grave for the disgraceful and classless behaviour of the club that he brought to these heights.
Barca needs to take responsibility for its actions. Rebuild, without forcing players out on stupid excuses whilst still spending crazy amounts of money on other players. Stop Super League ambitions because it's only in your own benefit. Barcelona should just accept it has to take a step or two back and rebuild a new great team which will take 5-10 years. That's the place Barcelona are in right now. They should not be signing players like Lewandowski. Absolutely ridiculous.
And you will need Ronaldo to replace another great player. Please sign him.No no no, don’t worry. Calling the absolute simplest financial transaction (selling future income with a discount to have cash at hand now) a „lever“ is still funny.
But every day is leversday so don’t expect comments all the time. And please sign Leversdowski, we need the money for de Ligt. Thank you.
Even with those three knew full well we would struggle without RB, DM & CM, so it provedWe had the potential to win everything after signing Varane, Ronaldo and Sancho last season, that worked out well. More seriously, on paper they have a team to compete with Real, i just dont think it'll translate to on the pitch performances, not to the extent of Real who are much more than the sum of their parts at least.
I dont really think they're lacking at cb or attacking midfield. The only thing their lacking is experience and game time for young, talented players. Midfield balance would be an issue for most teams too with Busquets being the only defensive minded player available but i accept barca operate differently to most. Just seems like a fragile set up to balance and I wouldn't trust Busquets to be up for it really. Full backs aren't great and the players they're targetting wont change that. Wingers are decent but nothing more, except Dembele possibly but that doesn't look a great bet these days. Lewandowski makes a lot of sense to me to be honest, age will start catching up with him but at 33 it shouldn't be a problem for a year or two. Could easily go the way of Shevchenko and just not be very good for them and i'd be a bit wary of Bayern being somewhat cooperative about the whole thing in that context. Adding some top tier talent to their forward line makes sense to me though and in terms of guaranteed success vs price to bring in he looks a good bet overall.
No excuse for acting like dickheads, not respecting contracts, players, club legends and not taking responsibility for your actions. Because you have elections doesn't mean you should lie. Same applies to regular politics. Lying should not be viewed as acceptable because it's all about the results. That's why the whole society is ruined. Barcelona have absolutely no excuse to act like this.It sounds nice and all -- to take a long-term view. But unfortunately, they have elections and with that, you will not have anyone (Presidents) taking long-term views until they are literally on the brink or have been declared bankrupt.
I agree 100%.No excuse for acting like dickheads, not respecting contracts, players, club legends and not taking responsibility for your actions. Because you have elections doesn't mean you should lie. Same applies to regular politics. Lying should not be viewed as acceptable because it's all about the results. That's why the whole society is ruined. Barcelona have absolutely no excuse to act like this.
I think it's the wage bill restrictions that has always been the problem.With all these levers, I assume registering new players is not an issue anymore.
Which also would mean selling FdJ is not not necessary for them
But with all these levers, that calculation looks very different now as it depends on your revenues I guessI think it's the wage bill restrictions that has always been the problem.
With Frenkie's deferred salary payments backloading starting next season, it's understandable that Barca needs to sell off Frenkie to clear space, wage-wise for the new signings.
Not sure how the 'revenues' from these levers are accounted for. They are based on projected revenues and obviously not additional revenues.But with all these levers, that calculation looks very different now as it depends on your revenues I guess
I doubt Barca would go that crazy signing players if it would not have an impactNot sure how the 'revenues' from these levers are accounted for. They are based on projected revenues and obviously not additional revenues.
I think they are buying ahead to help increase/generate season ticket sales.I doubt Barca would go that crazy signing players if it would not have an impact
Yeah that was my thought at the time. Kind of think they need a RB, DM and top tier winger even if they bring in their wishlist of players too though. They're probably not in a great position for winning prizes regardless really. Bit early for some of their players and a couple of years too late for others. Hard for that many signings to hit the ground running and just settle immediately too.Even with those three knew full well we would struggle without RB, DM & CM, so it proved
Sure they are. €45m base fee to be exact.There not giving you any money for Lewa. It’s all going on wages. Just look how ridiculous the Raphinha deal is.
They don't seem to be.Aren't the Barca fans a little worried about all this spending?
They're all pounding their chest all over social media.They don't seem to be.
The US had an amazing housing market in 2006.
Dumb statement, it was confusion at the border, they've strengthened their squad more than any other team this summer.Further embarrassment as they start their preseason tour without their manager. They just seem like a wild mess.
Wait a minute......
According to them Laporta knows everything and is planning for all eventualities. Just like how their previous president knew everything and was planning for their future when they were spending 150m on likes of Dembele and Coutinho. At that moment they would point at their revenue and explain how they can afford it. Now its “levers”.Aren't the Barca fans a little worried about all this spending?
At what cost?They have no fecking money.Dumb statement, it was confusion at the border, they've strengthened their squad more than any other team this summer.
Clubs like Barca don’t give a feck about Glazernomics - for better or worse.For a team struggling financially, I am surprised how many of their signings have little to no resale value.
I guess if it goes really tits up they could always sell one of Pedri, Fati or Gavi for 90M+ to an oil club.For a team struggling financially, I am surprised how many of their signings have little to no resale value.
The bookies don’t agreeThey are #1 contenders for all trophies now surely
because the signings are not for resale, but for today. Another el year against the likes of frankfurt would be really the end of the club. Investments to ensure high income is the only way forward. And praying at the same time, there won't be covid restrictions again of course. Pre covid barca was the club with the highest sales, nearly passed the 1b. The goal is to get there again of course and you can only do that with a high competitive squad.For a team struggling financially, I am surprised how many of their signings have little to no resale value.