or kiko or welbeck or rooney or cheech none over 26. so to be real he's got 6 in front of him all too young and beter to move before he gets a shot. and forget that support the player in the shirt crap - he's not f'n good enough and still got a spot ahead of younger players that may have a future. club v player.
Bebe | 2010/11 Performances
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If a players bad, it don't matter what shirt he wears, I'm gonna hold the same view point be it Man Utd or Liverpool, and you know if this kid was at Liverpool, you'd be all over him.
The personality part is a different thing, since you know Carragher is a wanker to me, Neville is a wanker to them, but they still both define their roles and are legends of the modern English game at least.
The personality part is a different thing, since you know Carragher is a wanker to me, Neville is a wanker to them, but they still both define their roles and are legends of the modern English game at least.
Ay, how dare a mere supporter judge a football player according to what they've seen over several games of football eh? Only club staff can truely judge a player...
he must be mustard in training.
Reminds me about the signing of Bellion.
Trying to turn an athlete into a footballer. Won't work.
Trying to turn an athlete into a footballer. Won't work.
Of course. I'm not supporting Bebe over Manchester United. You might think supporting/playing him at all is detrimental to the team but I'd rather trust the coaching staff.
Confidence is a massive thing to a footballer. It can make you look clumsy and every touch can be a nightmare. You could tell he got his head down last night.
Please give him time.
Bebe needs his dreads back.
I don't "think he'll make it". I'm reserving judgement.
His physique and pace give him an advantage over Tosic. At the moment, that's the only advantage I've seen.
The "he's shit and he always will be" tools are comical.
You probably said something similar about Fletcher...
My main issue wasn't with your judgement anyway.
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those may give him an advantage if he uses them. but once he's on the ball it really doesn't matter. he didn't do much v a conf side. nothing of note.
I think you misunderstand my point, Sultan.
A point of a forum is for discussion and debate obviously and opinions.
But I think when you get to certain issues such as potential of young players like Keane or King, some of whom have not even played for the first team yet, you have to sometimes acknowledge the limitations of your knowledge. I honestly do not really think I can offer an opinion on the question Mainoldo asked. Just being honest. It's my take on the matter, I'm not asking anyone else to take the same stance.
I'd never put the same type of fetter on anyone part of our squad such as first team players, or any other type of matter to do with United, because I think I have seen enough of these players to be able to discuss it fully.
If anyone else wants to get into that debate then it's upto them but if someone asks me such a question that will be my response.
You do realise this is an entertainment and a results industry. Time is not a luxury this industry affords. People and the media paid millions to watch that game yesterday.
I probably did, we all get it wrong sometimes. Doesn't mean we don't have the right to voice an opinion on a forum again though does it?
Even with Fletcher, he got 100+ games his performances didn't entirely deserve, but even in questioning him, I had no doubt he was a player more than capable of making it at other top level clubs. Do you share that confidence about Bebe? I'm not so sure
It didn't need to be fixed.
That is more like the case of Obertan.
My bad Ole. Apologies.
I quoted you wrongly. I deleted the post immediately.
That post was directed at RK.
Nah, Obertan is a far more technical player than both Bellion and Bebe was/is.
Well you have a point there, but at the time Bebe comes back from loan at 23, we already would have Cleverly, Welbeck and co that would have developed better, have more experience and potentially already squad players for us. Besides, loaning him to another club is a gamble as well, even Rossi couldn't fit into a Newcastle team(mainly because manager issues), what is left for Bebe who if we browse through his first 6 months can't fit into a Crawley team of yesterday..
When we signed him, I expected that his raw abilities are in the mould of Brazilian player taken off the street - that has the quality and lacks consistency and experience. However he is a bigger gamble that that cause he lacks proper football abilities that are learned while 10-12 years old..
Although it's too early can't see him making it to be honest. Same can be said about Diouf.
No, it doesn't. Why the need to make a definitive statement on his future?
Oh come on, Sultan, not like you to be so melodramatic. A young player has a poor game and suddenly we're worried about the money the media paid to watch it?
What's the point of having a forum?
he needs games, lots of them. Obertan is gone in the summer, but Bebe gets another year. I really think a loan deal is needed for him though. He's played so little football, and the odd reserve game is not enough.
He has potential, and I don't think he's gutless like Obertan is. But he needs more experience.
He has potential, and I don't think he's gutless like Obertan is. But he needs more experience.
To share opinions?
I think RK's beef is with people who state their opinions as facts. Bebe will not make it. Full stop.
Because it's true.
Bebe will not make it.
That's a bullshit cop out. His biggest exchange has been with me, and I've made it quite clear its my opinion, and that I'll happily eat humble pie if I'm wrong
If he had a problem with folk stating opinion as fact you'd be top of his hit list!
I very rarely use this one, but
.Did you believe that Dong, Prunier or the likes would make it at United, although played couple of games?
The lad is clearly the remake of that Goal movie, without the happy ending..
What?
It was in reply to a more melodramatic post from RK.
Having bad days in sport is nothing new. I can take rubbish performances. I have grown up with kids being given a chance at United. However, this kid is no where near first team football at present.
a direct feck up of transfer policy because of the glazer twats.
It's only football. People and the media can pay what they like, more fool them if their expectations aren't met. Besides the media don't actually care, it's all for the general consumption. And in general, people responsive to the media aren't the most reasonable folk. I'm not sure what my point here is, maybe because I'm struggling to see yours.
In my opinion it's far too early to reasonably judge Bebe. I know you disagree but I'm not going to laugh at you for doing so.
Now, bookmark that post. Put a set timer on your computer for 5 years time, and then make sure you say sorry to me, thank you in advance.I very rarely use this one, but
Care to explain how you managed to come to that conclusion?a direct feck up of transfer policy because of the glazer twats.
Bebe is the most hopeless player I have seen wearing a United shirt (since 1969).
He doesn't have good ball control, does not know how to dribble, terrible with his crosses
and most importantly has no guts. I think all of you would have seen him getting away from challenges many times in yesterday's game (some of them not even 50-50).
Why did United bought him? Probably due to a scam or out of pity by the one who recommended him. The 7 million pounds could have been spent on Van D. Vart, though not young but can still make a difference in the team. Due to lack of wingers available, playing Ravel Morrison may be have given United more bite and excitement for the fans.
He doesn't have good ball control, does not know how to dribble, terrible with his crosses
and most importantly has no guts. I think all of you would have seen him getting away from challenges many times in yesterday's game (some of them not even 50-50).
Why did United bought him? Probably due to a scam or out of pity by the one who recommended him. The 7 million pounds could have been spent on Van D. Vart, though not young but can still make a difference in the team. Due to lack of wingers available, playing Ravel Morrison may be have given United more bite and excitement for the fans.
Well, I'd count that as an opinion based on what people have seen so far from Bebe.
Do you think he will make at United?
Hold your breath on that one. Please.
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