Not a lot to see here other than a bit of a circle jerk. I guess there’s the language barrier, but still.
Beckham & Neymar talk about their careers
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Inevitable and rather sad that this has become a comparison of Beckham and Neymar. Obviously you’d pick Neymar first, Beckham had a wonderful set of skills and great attitude but they don’t compare, Neymar is far more able and destructive and in a completely different position is more highly overall rated.
Neymar became irrelevant when he was 25 y.o. (by moving to PSG).
Beckham still played at R. Madrid until he was 32 y.o. and moved to PSG when he was 38 y.o.
Beckham still played at R. Madrid until he was 32 y.o. and moved to PSG when he was 38 y.o.
Alright, cheers. This is pretty much the point I was trying to make about inverted vs classic wing players.
He sure has had a lot of people talking about him since then for someone so irrelevant.
But I never said they interpret the role similarly. My point was that they play in the same position. I mean, Sane plays the LW completely differently to, say, Hazard or Coman. Still, they all have the same position which is why I argue you can compare the two.
I think it's pretty telling that most of the class of 92 were able to condition themselves so well that they all played at the top level into their late 30s. Fergie and Eric Harrison must've drummed into them so much the importance of taking care of your body that they carried it with them, even if they left United. Giggs, Scholes, Beckham and Phil Neville all played until 38, 39, 40 and nearly all of those years were at the very top level. Even if Beckham went to the MLS at 32, he didn't look out of place at Milan or PSG.
People talk about talentless Khardasian too.He sure has had a lot of people talking about him since then for someone so irrelevant.
I'm not saying Neymar is talentless. He's still a good footballer, with occasional genius. But moving to PSG as 25 y.o. from Barcelona?
People talk about him missing games (at PSG), and even diving antics at WC.
Hah.. now that's a good observation. Also they're hardworkers too.
You say you're not going with trophy hauls but your argument is that the majority of the trophies he's won are worthless and that he's won little of note. The truth is it's all going to be subjective anyway, what defines being classed as a legend will differ from person to person. Neymar isn't a legend in my eyes but then to me neither is Beckham (though I do respect him). I'm not going to argue with other people though and claim that because he isn't a legend to me it means that he can't be a legend to you.
Okay, maybe I misunderstood. And I also agree that player typization is often rather generalizing in light of individual styles.
But I still think is that position itself is a bit misleading here, as movement and function are so different. (Leading foot's side, in-game habits, and skillset being some of the main factors.)
And yet, if he manages to actually stay fit and win a CL with PSG, it will be a bigger accomplishment than winning it for Real Madrid or Barcelona, and he will get the credit he would be often robbed off playing in Messi's team.
He's obviously not irrelevant because people keep talking or posting about him even when he's out injured.
Also, for what it's worth, I'm done bashing the Kardashians, Kim has used her relationship with the President of the United States to release 18 inmates that were wrongly convicted with more to come. Not bad for a girl who got famous off a sex tape.
Behave man, we’re comparing Neymar’s CV so far with Beckham’s. Not Neymar’s possible CV in 3 years man.
So far Becks has more major honours, simples, I did a table for you and everything yet you keep calling it fiction.
Major league titles 8 v 4
Champions League 1 v 1
Copa L 0 v 1
Tin pot state titles 3 v 3
Give me your side by side stats of major honours won then if it’s fiction. I mean, only one of us is actually talking facts here, you’re saying Neymar has a better CV right now which is quite frankly nonsense, get out man.
I’ll say it again, right now Becks CV shits on Neymar. Will it still in 4 years? Not if Neymar moves back to Spain I’d guess.
So yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3
He’d be one of 3 CM’s in a 4-3-3.
I don't understand what's the point of listing their honors? You usually do that to compare players of similar talent and ability. It's clear cut that Neymar is a far superior player to Beckham overall.
I don't consider Neymar a "legend" but I can understand why many football fans do.
Tsu said Neymar’s honours CV shits on Becks, a poster made a list showing it doesn’t, Tsu doubled down, ignored the list and continued telling anyone to “behave” because it does.
It doesn’t, and I think every poster in here admits Neymar is more talented so.
So you'd play him in a position where you need to be very agile, have excellent close control and need to excel in tight spaces and, maybe most importantly, Beck's best skill - his crossing - is among the least important abilities to have. I'd rather play him as a RB similarly to Arnold or Marcelo rather than that.So yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3
He’d be one of 3 CM’s in a 4-3-3.
Lads, why is it that I'm the only one that brought up the fact that Neymar likes touching his mom's arse?
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Neymar is a complete and utter insufferable twat, but at least he provides comic relief for us too! What a strange, disturbed man.Roy Keane is only good at running like maniac, Beckham is only good at crossing. Some of the myths that should have died long back.
Other than crossing, Beckham was deadly on freekick too. One of the GOAT on that, imho.
That is very disturbing. But maybe we're just so old school, and need to be more open minded.Becks had a lovely touch and incredible passing, was also nice in tight spaces, what David Beckham did you watch?
Real Madrid played him CM fairly often. I don’t ever remember anyone playing him in a front three cause it didn't happen.
This is a shit debate so it’s ending here, anyone, absolutely anyone who saw Becks career knows he was a right midfielder. Everyone knows Neymar is a forward. Kin hell man.
Look at what happens when he tries to stay up
He exaggerates sometimes, but skilful players are often protecting themselves by going down.
I can't say they are wrong to do this because often the ref does nothing if you don't go down.
"love being crushed by you". Damn.
Do you think? Would he not need to win a world cup for them?
Heh, it's more of a flat 2-4-4 or 3-3-4 or 3-2-3-2 honestly. Over 60%+ possession per game and all...
ThisSo yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3
He’d be one of 3 CM’s in a 4-3-3.
They played the same formation again against Lyon tonight. Draxler took the LM position but did nowhere near as well as Neymar.
They'll play the same way against Dortmund i'm sure also.
I mean, tell that to De Bruyne.
You can easily find a position for Beckham in a 3 man midfield. Just get him on the right channel more often like De Bruyne does for City.
I'm so familiar with botox faces, that is not one of em'.
Becks is just...genuinely handsome. Feck me what a lucky man.
You think not looks very plasticky maybe he’s had work done..
Ronaldo Luis, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Romario, Kaka, Zico, Pele, etc...
Any mug can score goals in the Copa America and qualifiers? You are free to believe whatever you want, but it takes a truly special and unique talent to score as many goals as Neymar.
He was a very good player, but Neymar is just plain better
His close control in tight spaces is vastly superior
He’s infinitely more agile and faster
He’s a much better goalscorer
Beckham has a nice cross on him and was great on set pieces, but overall doesn’t even touch Neymar’s genius as a player.
Exactly. I mean Neymar is better player not much to argue there but it's so obvious that few haven't watched Beckham at all and are going by few popular myths.So yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3
He’d be one of 3 CM’s in a 4-3-3.
He was superb passer of the ball both short and long, very good shooting from distance, fantastic engine and in GOAT tier when it comes to crossing the ball. He would be awesome as part of midfield 3 drifting to right side like KdB.
What a ridiculous thread. Neymar is an absolute legend of the game and youd pick Neymar over Beckham in every single scenario when building a team from scratch, anyone picking Beckham would be called a mad man.
Only reason Neymar is doubted by some people on this forum in particular is because he has been playing under the shadow of two of the greatest players of all time, had CR7 and Messi not existed he would have probably won a few balon de ors while being the main man at either Barca or Madrid.
Beckham was a good player but come on guys dont be silly now. If Beckham had been playing on this age he wouldnt get close to being called a top 10 player in the world.
Only reason Neymar is doubted by some people on this forum in particular is because he has been playing under the shadow of two of the greatest players of all time, had CR7 and Messi not existed he would have probably won a few balon de ors while being the main man at either Barca or Madrid.
Beckham was a good player but come on guys dont be silly now. If Beckham had been playing on this age he wouldnt get close to being called a top 10 player in the world.
This is just daft hyperbole.
When he came second in the Ballon D'or voting in 1999 players in the mix were: Rivaldo, Raul, Shevchenko, Batistuta, Crespo, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, etc. Hardly a terrible lack of talent in the world then.
it’s definitely harder to score in the qualifiers in South America than it is in Europe. There don’t have San Marino’s over there.Neymar is far better footballer than Beckham ever was. No slight on Beckham. But much different footballers as well.
Neymar is a far far better footballer than Beckham. No question about it. Anyone who disagrees is trolling.
However, legend status doesn't come from capability alone. There are multiple factors - longevity at the peak, impact at the club/country, trophies, etc. - and frankly creating an exhaustive list of metrics if a bit pointless because considering someone a legend is by definition a subjective call.
My opinion:
1. Neymar is much more skillful and overall the better footballer.
2. Beckham had a better club career - I don't think Neymar has impacted any club like Beckham did for United
3. Neymar has had a much better career for the country - he has been pivotal to the Brazilian team.
However, legend status doesn't come from capability alone. There are multiple factors - longevity at the peak, impact at the club/country, trophies, etc. - and frankly creating an exhaustive list of metrics if a bit pointless because considering someone a legend is by definition a subjective call.
My opinion:
1. Neymar is much more skillful and overall the better footballer.
2. Beckham had a better club career - I don't think Neymar has impacted any club like Beckham did for United
3. Neymar has had a much better career for the country - he has been pivotal to the Brazilian team.
The whole world watched Beckham play at Utd and Madrid.
The whole world stopped watching Neymar as soon as he went to P$G.
The whole world stopped watching Neymar as soon as he went to P$G.
Much better for his country?
Hmmm..... I'm no expert on this one but I'm not convinced. Beckham was a massive player for England, neither have won anything of note for their countries have they?
Beckham was:
- First England player to score at three FIFA World Cups.
- Fourth highest number of games as captain of the England national football team: 59
