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Last Man Standing finalist 2021/22
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Alright, cheers. This is pretty much the point I was trying to make about inverted vs classic wing players.No, he comes inside on his right foot from the left and acts as a playmaker. He and Di Maria both stay wide then cut inside and look for through passes or play 1-2's, especially with Mbappe.
He sure has had a lot of people talking about him since then for someone so irrelevant.Neymar became irrelevant when he was 25 y.o. (by moving to PSG).
Beckham still played at R. Madrid until he was 32 y.o. and moved to PSG when he was 38 y.o.
But I never said they interpret the role similarly. My point was that they play in the same position. I mean, Sane plays the LW completely differently to, say, Hazard or Coman. Still, they all have the same position which is why I argue you can compare the two.Can't rule out I'm missing something, of course. But would you say he interprets his role similar to Beckham in his Utd days?
I think it's pretty telling that most of the class of 92 were able to condition themselves so well that they all played at the top level into their late 30s. Fergie and Eric Harrison must've drummed into them so much the importance of taking care of your body that they carried it with them, even if they left United. Giggs, Scholes, Beckham and Phil Neville all played until 38, 39, 40 and nearly all of those years were at the very top level. Even if Beckham went to the MLS at 32, he didn't look out of place at Milan or PSG.Neymar became irrelevant when he was 25 y.o. (by moving to PSG).
Beckham still played at R. Madrid until he was 32 y.o. and moved to PSG when he was 38 y.o.
People talk about talentless Khardasian too.He sure has had a lot of people talking about him since then for someone so irrelevant.
Hah.. now that's a good observation. Also they're hardworkers too.I think it's pretty telling that most of the class of 92 were able to condition themselves so well that they all played at the top level into their late 30s. Fergie and Eric Harrison must've drummed into them so much the importance of taking care of your body that they carried it with them, even if they left United. Giggs, Scholes, Beckham and Phil Neville all played until 38, 39, 40 and nearly all of those years were at the very top level. Even if Beckham went to the MLS at 32, he didn't look out of place at Milan or PSG.
You say you're not going with trophy hauls but your argument is that the majority of the trophies he's won are worthless and that he's won little of note. The truth is it's all going to be subjective anyway, what defines being classed as a legend will differ from person to person. Neymar isn't a legend in my eyes but then to me neither is Beckham (though I do respect him). I'm not going to argue with other people though and claim that because he isn't a legend to me it means that he can't be a legend to you.I wasn’t going with trophy halls.
Someone listed Neymars medals. Most of them were absolutely worthless.
He’s a one little of note and people are talking as if he’s a legend of football. There are thousands of players above him.
Nike support and some YouTube highlights seem to go a long way these days.
Okay, maybe I misunderstood. And I also agree that player typization is often rather generalizing in light of individual styles.But I never said they interpret the role similarly. My point was that they play in the same position. I mean, Sane plays the LW completely differently to, say, Hazard or Coman. Still, they all have the same position which is why I argue you can compare the two.
And yet, if he manages to actually stay fit and win a CL with PSG, it will be a bigger accomplishment than winning it for Real Madrid or Barcelona, and he will get the credit he would be often robbed off playing in Messi's team.People talk about talentless Khardasian too.
I'm not saying Neymar is talentless. He's still a good footballer, with occasional genius. But moving to PSG as 25 y.o. from Barcelona?
People talk about him missing games (at PSG), and even diving antics at WC.
Behave man, we’re comparing Neymar’s CV so far with Beckham’s. Not Neymar’s possible CV in 3 years man.See how you emphasised Neymar only had 4 European league titles whereas Beckham has 8? That needs to be contextualised. Neymar has only been in Europe for 7 years. Is this really hard to grasp?
So yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3I don't call Neymar a midfielder, I'm saying that his position, however you want to call it, is comparable with Beckham's on the right hand side. Thing is, if Beckham were to play in a modern system, his position would be the righthand equvilant of Neymar's position.
Tsu said Neymar’s honours CV shits on Becks, a poster made a list showing it doesn’t, Tsu doubled down, ignored the list and continued telling anyone to “behave” because it does.I don't understand what's the point of listing their honors? You usually do that to compare players of similar talent and ability. It's clear cut that Neymar is a far superior player to Beckham overall.
So you'd play him in a position where you need to be very agile, have excellent close control and need to excel in tight spaces and, maybe most importantly, Beck's best skill - his crossing - is among the least important abilities to have. I'd rather play him as a RB similarly to Arnold or Marcelo rather than that.So yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3
He’d be one of 3 CM’s in a 4-3-3.
Neymar is a complete and utter insufferable twat, but at least he provides comic relief for us too! What a strange, disturbed man.Lads, why is it that I'm the only one that brought up the fact that Neymar likes touching his mom's arse?
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That is very disturbing. But maybe we're just so old school, and need to be more open minded.Neymar is a complete and utter insufferable twat, but at least he provides comic relief for us too! What a strange, disturbed man.
Becks had a lovely touch and incredible passing, was also nice in tight spaces, what David Beckham did you watch?So you'd play him in a position where you need to be very agile, have excellent close control and need to excel in tight spaces and, maybe most importantly, Beck's best skill - his crossing - is among the least important abilities to have. I'd rather play him as a RB similarly to Arnold or Marcelo rather than that.
Look at what happens when he tries to stay upEverytime I've seen him he's been rolling about at minimal contact and diving like a bellend.
"love being crushed by you". Damn.Neymar is a complete and utter insufferable twat, but at least he provides comic relief for us too! What a strange, disturbed man.
Do you think? Would he not need to win a world cup for them?I didn’t say that? But he’s certainly fecking huge. And he’ll go down as a legend for Brazil no doubt.
Heh, it's more of a flat 2-4-4 or 3-3-4 or 3-2-3-2 honestly. Over 60%+ possession per game and all...PSG are literally playing a flat 4-4-2 now and he's playing left wing - and probably been in the best form of his career ( atleast In PSG ) since the switch.
ThisSo yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3
He’d be one of 3 CM’s in a 4-3-3.
They played the same formation again against Lyon tonight. Draxler took the LM position but did nowhere near as well as Neymar.Heh, it's more of a flat 2-4-4 or 3-3-4 or 3-2-3-2 honestly. Over 60%+ possession per game and all...
I mean, tell that to De Bruyne.So you'd play him in a position where you need to be very agile, have excellent close control and need to excel in tight spaces and, maybe most importantly, Beck's best skill - his crossing - is among the least important abilities to have. I'd rather play him as a RB similarly to Arnold or Marcelo rather than that.
I'm so familiar with botox faces, that is not one of em'.Beckham looks like he’s had a few to many Botox injections and what’s up with Neymar’s hair?
You think not looks very plasticky maybe he’s had work done..I'm so familiar with botox faces, that is not one of em'.
Becks is just...genuinely handsome. Feck me what a lucky man.
Ronaldo Luis, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Romario, Kaka, Zico, Pele, etc...Any mug can score goals in the Copa America and qualifiers. What's your point? He's not a legend. He's killing his career off in France and can't stay fit.
He was a very good player, but Neymar is just plain betterBeckham was an absolute boss of the game.
Exactly. I mean Neymar is better player not much to argue there but it's so obvious that few haven't watched Beckham at all and are going by few popular myths.So yeah, defo never watched Becks if you think anyone would play him in a front 3
He’d be one of 3 CM’s in a 4-3-3.
This is just daft hyperbole.If Beckham had been playing on this age he wouldnt get close to being called a top 10 player in the world.
it’s definitely harder to score in the qualifiers in South America than it is in Europe. There don’t have San Marino’s over there.Any mug can score goals in the Copa America and qualifiers. What's your point? He's not a legend. He's killing his career off in France and can't stay fit.
Beckham was an absolute boss of the game.
Much better for his country?3. Neymar has had a much better career for the country - he has been pivotal to the Brazilian team.