Was just going to ask the same question
Berbatov
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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I want a toke of whatever Glaston Sur has been smoking.
On second thoughts ..............
On second thoughts ..............
Ceks got there first Wibbs, he toked the lot the greedy gooner.
THANK YOU!!Am i in a Dimitar Berbatov thread, or a United vs Arses fan debate thread
FFS, why are you blokes even entertaining those goons
i came in here to see if there was any news on berbatov, instead i see this shit. to be fair though, i did find it slightly amusing! but nevertheless, can we stick to berbatov related topics?
ok, here's one:
Would Arsenal be able to win a European Cup with Berbatov in their squad?
Discuss....
who?
I also was under the impression we actually paid a lot less for Rio. Didn't we do a deal with Leeds to pay the whole lot off in the second installment cos they were fecked, at a big discount?
You're in the wrong thread, try the Ronaldo one, you can't miss it.
who?
Is there a Ronaldo-thread?
The discount was around £ 900 000 if I remember correctly.
edit: So it was a little bit more, but not THAT more
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20040129/ai_n9684993
Working out averages are obviously going to be low if you include the entire squad. I can imagine how low Arsenal's would be, if we included all the players we have recruited for peanuts. The best way is to select the strongest 11, and then calculate averages from those selected players. Perhaps select two or three fringe players who get regular games.
Which will actually be higher than Sultan's 6.75m or whatever it was. I should know, I did all these calculations last year.
Comparing Arsenal & Utd budgets/expenditure is a fools game.
Don't get me wrong, If I was in your position, I would want Utd to spend. Players like Rio & Rooney have been worth every penny, which gives enough justification to continue in the same vein with players like Berbatov.
And If you hadn't noticed, I have been one of the very few on here for the past 6 months saying that spending the money of Berbatov makes very good sense for Utd!
It seems it's all frozen.
Wonder if they will try to keep him or what?
Have they played him in their friendlies?
Wonder if they will try to keep him or what?
Have they played him in their friendlies?
So we'll sign Benzema or Villa instead?
Sigh, i cant see us signing anyone...
European Final Team
VDS = 2 Million
Brown
Rio = 28 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evra = 6 Million
Scholes
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million
Tevez
Rooney = 25 Million
Average 10 Million.
To be fair counting Tevez as "free of charge" is not right.
Lets stick to berba, ceks has been well and truly dealt with.
I wonder if we will have him in the team by the time the charity shield comes about
I wonder if we will have him in the team by the time the charity shield comes about
Even if we said 20 Million for Tevez, that would average out the first team at less than 12 Million - hardly 20 Million suggested by Ceks.
Transfer fees aren't the only way that players cost us money. Considering how much we pay our players would also be worthwhile, especially seeing as Arsenal are losing players because they refuse to pay them as much as other clubs.
VDS = 2 Million
Brown
Rio = 29 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evra = 6 Million
Scholes
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million
Tevez = 5 million (season loan fee)
Rooney = 27 Million
Average ? Million.
From the saf ladyman interview
HOW are you getting on with the pursuit of your 'mystery' centre-forward?
We have given up on that (laughs).
Oh noes.
HOW are you getting on with the pursuit of your 'mystery' centre-forward?
We have given up on that (laughs).
Oh noes.
Pointless debate, the fact that we managed to spend more on players means that we are a bigger and more profitable club than Arsenal which in no way can be considered as a flaw of a football club.
You're not more profitable than us.
Essien?
Looks like Sir Alex agrees with us, the Rooney being misused quotes. Where's that tit who disagreed that Rooney can play upfront?
We surely have been more profitable than you over the last several years, otherwise we wouldn't be free to spend that much more money than you. Advantages of being a big club are that you earn a lot more money and are able to spend it on players who'd suit the size of the club.
Vintage Storey, you come in with one sentence but no proof or development:
Where's your proof of that?
Not the case with Wenger though is it? He has had many a player bought on the cheap. Players that have won him 3 Titles, and 4 FA Cups. A massive achievement considering the amount of money Chelsea had to spend in order to experience some form of success, however plastic it may be.
This demonstrates how forgetful you United bunch can be. Or perhaps we just have a youngun or glory hunter in CapeTownRed...
You made that 3rd place your own in 03-04 & 04-05. Lets not forget you also finished 3rd in 01-02.
Like I said earlier; all from smaller clubs, with a lot less pulling power.
I have never said Arsenal have more pulling power than Utd. However I did say that all of those listed above would have been happy to join Arsenal, had we been in for them.
I agree all are first class talents, but enjoy them whilst there here, because there is always a bigger fish in the sea, as the saying goes.
Notice: Hargreaves plays for England. I don't doubt Utd's ability to attract top English players. You are the biggest club in England, after all.
I have never said we have the pulling power to attract the best players in the world. It would be stupid for me to argue other wise. If you track this back to where this all started, you'll see I was simply putting a Utd supporter straight, as he seemed to think Utd's pulling power was increasing, and that it was 'worrying for the rest of you' meaning us among other teams in the PL.
Here you go:
We don't actually tend to go after the same players as Utd.
The last time both clubs were after the same player...well we all know what happened there.
Ramsey is at Arsenal, and he will never play for you.
Increasing power to United..?
Yeah right.
Not always, and there are no fixed rules. Plenty of players have gone from one big club to another. It is simply easier, and more cost effective to buy from smaller inferior clubs. Everything comes down to money at the end of the day, and whoever has got, or offers the most amount of money usually get their man. See: Real Madrid.The bigger clubs don't usually like dealing with each other. Hargreaves (canadian
Big clubs usually retain their best players, that's why buying from smaller clubs happens...
Money talks. Something Chelsea have in abundance. That's about all they've got though.
Reyes actually cost us no more than £11m. Over half of which was re-couped from his transfer to Atletico Madrid. He may not be right for England, but it was hardly the blunder that it is made out to be.
This is the problem of jumping on the bandwagon with out knowing the facts. I am in agreement of spending big, if the club can support the costs. Rio/Carrick/Rooney etc are all justifiable in my opinion. If you knew anything about my opinions; you would know I spent days arguing with devilish over the possible Berbatov transfer, and the fee that ti may incur.
I was the one saying that it would be money well spent! It has taken half of you on here over 6 months to come round to the idea.
I suppose you think that's funny..
When I said £20m+ I was being rather general, and I didn't expect to be taken so literal that it was interpreted that I believe Utd spent £20m+ on each position. Your calculations are still wrong, I made a thread in the newbies a year ago, called 'big 4 team costs'. Perhaps you could dig it up for me, as I can't seem to find it.
My point was, you spend £20+ without batting an eyelid. Our most expensive player ever, was Wiltord (£13m).
I never said it was a flaw..If you're in a position to do so, then why not? I just hate when Utd supported rubbish Arsenal's achievements.
Makes me wonder why you choose to spend seemingly all day everyday hanging out on a United forum? What else do you expect?
Will this be another "Tevez" saga?
Big 4 Team Costs
I'd still rather be successful on the pitch, than shareholders benefiting over the odds.
That is pretty incredible shopping from Wenger. Respect to the man.Ceks said:
I'd still rather be successful on the pitch, than shareholders benefiting over the odds.
Wayne Rooney didn't cost £30m, though. And Tevez hasn't cost us £25m. He's still only on loan.
Cant believe carrick costs the same as the whole arsenal first team.
Adebayor and van persie cost a combined 6.5m, crazy.
I fear weve veered off topic slightly.
Adebayor and van persie cost a combined 6.5m, crazy.
I fear weve veered off topic slightly.
Carrick is a triple champion.
where did this arse come from ?
Only if you don't count the likes of Hleb, Walcott, Eduardo.
I dont know how this argument started but its pretty pointless.
Didn't we do this last year and when you assign it to pounds/league points or pounds/trophy utd comes out best value, and it is indeed value not cost which is the true measure of thrift...
but back to Berbatov, did we sign him yet?
but back to Berbatov, did we sign him yet?
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