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Only if the alternative was David "Dithering" Moyes.You'd take him at United then?
If there's one thing Allardyce isn't, it's great. Trusted, yes. Great, feck no.
Only if the alternative was David "Dithering" Moyes.You'd take him at United then?
If there's one thing Allardyce isn't, it's great. Trusted, yes. Great, feck no.
Sam might be slightly better then Moyes, however they both failed miserably in numerous jobs. Yet they keep getting 2nd,3rd,4th chances with the occasional promotion (England for example or West Ham). Many keep mentioning how young managers are not getting a job due to foreign managers. However, no one seem to ask why clubs keep recycling the same local names instead of giving the younger crop a try. I mean, we all know that Big Sam or Moyes will never be anything more then average.It's not though, Moyes spectacularly failed at both United and Sunderland and made a mess of the Sociedad job to boot. Allardyce wasn't sacked by either Sunderland or Palace and doesn't look a broken man like Moyes. He's a much safer bet than Moyes post United and Sunderland.
My point being, I take issue with the definition of great and it being attributed to someone like Sam Allardyce. He's a solid manager, not a great manager.You can be a great coach and not be what United need.... Wenger, Ancelotti, Klopp are great coaches. Would i want them at United? No.
In what job has Allardyce "failed miserably"?Sam might be slightly better then Moyes, however they both failed miserably in numerous jobs.
How does Big Sam being appointed vindicate that claim?Kinda vindicates my claim that the 14 clubs below the top 6 are significantly weaker this season, barring Burnley and Watford.
Dinosaur or inept managers, so makes an already strong City team look practically invincible week in and week out. Though I don't class Sam as a bad manager, he's a steady old hand and much better than Moyes, Hodgson, Pardew and the rest.
He's totally useless. Leaving every single club he's ever managed at in a better position than we took over is surely the definition of failure?In what job has Allardyce "failed miserably"?
The state of Everton that they need Sam speaks for itself.How does Big Sam being appointed vindicate that claim?
Everton haven't been 'mighty' since the 80s!Heh, just a year ago, they were harboring illusions of attracting Mourinho.
How the mighty have fallen. Oh well, atleast he will keep them up and I can fully focus on Moyes for laughs.
In what job has Allardyce "failed miserably"?
Agreed. Good manager. Like Pulis, he only gets stick because of the style of his football. But it works, and that's what most people care about (especially the decision makers) care about.He's totally useless. Leaving every single club he's ever managed at in a better position than we took over is surely the definition of failure?
Blackpool finished 20th in the 3rd tier when he took over, they'd just finished 3rd when he left
Notts County were 22nd when he took over there, got relegated, came back up and were 2nd when he left
Bolton were 12th in the Championship when appointed, 5th in the Premier League when he left
Newcastle 13th in Premier League ---> 11th
Blackburn 19th ---> 13th
West Ham 20th and relegated ---> 12th
Sunderland 19th ---> 17th
Crystal Palace 17th ---> 14th
He's on an 18-month contract. Everton's goals have to be a bit more short-sighted than you are implying, they are in a real relegation battle this season. If they weren't, I would be saying go after a Marco Silva type as opposed to Big Sam, but if they go down it'll be disastrous and thus their focus at the moment should be staying up, which they have a good chance of doing with Allardyce as opposed to taking a riskier option right now.And after that? Everton will have a bunch of surplus players that their next manager will in all probability want rid of because they've hired someone whose style is totally at odds with Allardyce's.
It's not hipster to want football clubs to show a bit more foresight and adequately scout managers across Europe, that might, just might see them avoid fighting fires every 18 months.
Instead Everton are turning to a manager that has won precisely nothing and whose career has mostly resided at the wrong end of the table - there's a reason for that.
Allardyce will keep them up, he'll organise the defence and sign a striker in January. Beyond that, Everton will achieve little in the way of progress.
Its a good short term appointmentSSN saying deal agreed and he'll be at the game later.
What do we make of that?
I'm surprised he's got another top job given the England fiasco but I guess Everton really are desperate at the moment. I think it's pretty sad for them as they have totally tried to reinvent the club's philosophy in recent times to one that actually plays football yet now it looks like they are sliding back to where they were trapped for so long in the bottom half.
Not sure Big Sam will stick around either.
When has he ever been sacked for valid reasons? Each sacking his garnered at club level has been thoroughly unwarranted.its the same argument though. Big Sam had been hired and sacked so many times that I lost count. Yet he still manages to find a job at decent clubs. That's unbelievable.
He isn't poor though. Not even closeMystifying really how so many poor coaches are merely recycled one year after another
SAF had top people breathing at his neck for years. He was never sacked. Same with Conte who had always been a big cry baby. If you're good enough then rest assured you keep your job. There's too much money involved in football to shoot down a winner.A winner might get unlucky with 1-2 clubs who are a bit cuckoo but lightening never strike regularly at the same spot.When has he ever been sacked for valid reasons? Each sacking his garnered at club level has been thoroughly unwarranted.
Taking Sammy Lee to Everton.....what a genius.Sammy Lee is going to be his assistant.
Seriously, what were they expecting? Ancelotti? Tuchel?Everton fans fuming
Especially with former Red Sammy Lee coming too.
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...onfirmed-as-new-everton-manager.100769/page-5
they can afford someone whose better than an overated dinosaurSeriously, what were they expecting? Ancelotti? Tuchel?
Such a deluded bunch. They are arguably the worst team in the PL at the moment, not even Sean Dyche wanted to take them with a barge pole.
Yeah they have definitely dropped a ball there, they have just made his job even harder, now he has less time to identify the problem's/solutions.Right manager for the situation they're in but they should have hired him a few games ago rather than now.
Pretty close. Career sub 40% wining percentageHe isn't poor though. Not even close
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Who is there available better equipped to keep them in the PL who would actually want the job?they can afford someone whose better than an overated dinosaur
Over Moyes in 2013? Every fecking day of the week.You'd take him at United then?
If there's one thing Allardyce isn't, it's great. Trusted, yes. Great, feck no.