It is a show of it's time but I watched a few episodes recently and there's also a lot more homophobic jokes than I had remembered.
"Blackface" Discussion
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Yeah I read an article covering it and was quite surprised.
'Entertaining' doing a lot of heavy lifting in that headline.
Blackface Morris dancers who were axed from national body for refusing to give up controversial make-up continue to defy critics by entertaining May Day pub crowd
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-wearing-controversial-make-up.html#comments
Blackface Morris dancers who were axed from national body for refusing to give up controversial make-up continue to defy critics by entertaining May Day pub crowd
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-wearing-controversial-make-up.html#comments
Suntans are next.
Can't even say you're a Morris dancer these days.
Off to Rwanda with you.
They should be ashamed of themselves. It's 2022 and they're still clinging to the idea that morris dancing is socially acceptable.
they need to get with the times. popping and locking would be more modern.
I thought a lot of Morris dancers had changed to green face make-up. It's a better idea, Jack in the Green on May Day and all that.
Do these people have zero self awar......oh.
The big fake hooter does seem a bit unnecessary. Considering most people who watch won’t have a clue what yer man looked like. Strange decision.
That's pretty messed up.
Yeah the bloke has a fair size nose naturally, so seems a bit unnecessary. That seems way more iffy than the fact he's non-Jewish, which I don't see see as a big deal.
Yeah, same. Although I do get a bit confused about being Jewish as a religion vs an ethnicity. There would usually be a big fuss if you cast a white actor in a role that is supposed to represent a minority ethnicity. So maybe this is the same thing?
That being said, there are plenty of good Jewish actors who could play the part, Paul Rudd immediately comes to mind
There is no way anyone involved in this project could've predicted there'd be any backlash over a non Jewish actor wearing a huge fake nose to appear more Jewish.
No way.
No way.
That is truly bizarre. It'd be bad enough if the dude had a big nose.
Jeez. 
That's sent me down some interesting wormholes.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...p-signs-an-order-provokes-an-identity-crisis/
Very stupid decision and I can see how its offensive to the Jewish community.
Sounds like a bad skit. They ask Bradley Cooper if he knows a good Jewish actor to play the role, and he just applies a comically large fake nose and raises one eyebrow
It's a nose, Jewish people make fun of this themselves as in the video above (I'm assuming she's Jewish
). That said it seems silly to need a prosthetic nose to play a character unless it's somehow crucial to the story.
I don't really buy into this line of thinking, i.e. a Jewish actor should play a Jewish character. Just pick the best actor bearing in mind they should at least resemble the person somewhat.
Didn't his kids come and and basically kill this whole argument anyway by saying he had a massive nose and they don't mind Cooper is wearing a prosthetic.
Can of worms that. How is it relevant?
It's a nose, Jewish people make fun of this themselves as in the video above (I'm assuming she's Jewish
That said it seems silly to need a prosthetic nose to play a character unless it's somehow crucial to the story.
Honestly think this is yet another load of nothing to get wound up about.
Bernstein had a big nose. Not massive, but big. Cooper has a boney nose. Who cares. Is it going to make or break the movie? No.
Bernstein had a big nose. Not massive, but big. Cooper has a boney nose. Who cares. Is it going to make or break the movie? No.
Personally I am fine with it too but I can understand why some may not be.
Looks stupid, but that's about it. With it being a biopic the general offense taken is a quite silly.
That said this idea is probably a good argument against having the same person direct, write and star in movies.
That said this idea is probably a good argument against having the same person direct, write and star in movies.
If you do a google image search for Bernstein you can see he's one of those people whose nose (and ears) look bigger as he gets more elderly. Which is common enough. His nose looks normal sized in any photo of him when he's young. So it's an odd decision to go with a large fake nose when he's playing a young Bernstein. Just unnecessary really.
Yeah that’s a bit fecked. When they were applying the makeup and sticking the fake conk on, did nobody think “this is a bit dodgy”?
‘Jewface’ & Blackface are not the same. This movie is a homage to a great Jewish conductor, I must have missed blackfaces use in the positive portrayal of black people.
This issue should have its own thread.
This issue should have its own thread.
Who appears to have owned a perfectly normal nose!
What the feck were they thinking
I get that one or two people could feck something like this up. But there are so many people involved in something like this. It is so funny.What the feck were they thinking
Surely some form of career sabotage!What the feck were they thinking
"No Mr. Cooper, not at all! If anything, we could go BIGGER!"
To be fair his kids reckon he had a massive old conk (well, a nice big nose). I'm suspicious they might've teased him about it.
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But so what?
Nobody is being offensive. It's a prosthetic nose, which will work to make Cooper look slightly less like himself and slightly more like Bernstein. But instead we're all looking for the insult. Which is what exactly? Some antisemitic attack?
This is all a bit silly.
Indeed, which was exaggerated through the use of prosthetics.
Still not sure why it’s in the ‘Blackface thread’ but I suppose subversion works.
I never said it was offensive, an insult or an antisemitic attack. Or anything like that.
So what's the argument here, that hes taken away an acting job from other actors with big honkers?