Bolivian President Evo Morales resigns after massive protests over election

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...morales-resigns-after-election-result-dispute

He'd agreed to hold new elections after the OAS reported there were serious irregularities in his reelection and that the election should be annulled.

In 2016, he tried to get term limits abolished for the presidency so he could run for a fourth term but lost the referendum--only to have the supreme court overrule the constitution allowing him to run again.

How did he not learn the lesson from Maduro that you have to keep the military onside?

Between Chile and Bolivia, South America is kicking off.
 

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nimic said:
The title should say forced to resign by the military.
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Beat me to it.

Call it as it is. He was 'suggested to resign' by the military since they refused to defend him. Add to that fascist protestors kidnapping and assaulting his supporters, all while the US and their right-wing allies rub their hands in glee. This is a coup through and through.
 

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Kaos said:
Beat me to it.

Call it as it is. He was 'suggested to resign' by the military since they refused to defend him. Add to that fascist protestors kidnapping and assaulting his supporters, all while the US and their right-wing allies rub their hands in glee. This is a coup through and through.
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Of course it's a coup, but democratic values were violated long before.
 

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PedroMendez said:
Of course it's a coup, but democratic values were violated long before.
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What do you think happens next? Free and transparent elections, continued protection of indigenous rights?

Irrespective of the circumstances preceding it, a coup is hardly a promising prelude to enabling stronger democratic values within a country.
 

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What do you think happens next? Free and transparent elections, continued protection of indigenous rights?

Irrespective of the circumstances preceding it, a coup is hardly a promising prelude to enabling stronger democratic values within a country.
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I have no idea how this is going to play out and I am not arguing that the coup is justified. I am strongly against ignoring the context in an attempt to make Evo morales look good, because one shares his political ideals. If you honestly worry about democratic norms, you cant be fan of Evo regardless of what you think about the rest of his politics.
 

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Rule of thumbs: Whatever position a country's military supports, it's morally wrong and bad for the country. Who ever the military backs is a corrupt cnut.
 
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nimic said:
feck Glenn Greenwald, but when he's right he's right.
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"feck Glenn Greenwald"

So many of you here are such unbelievable hypocrites....you cry for hours and 1000 posts in the Trump thread how he's such a menace to the world and a threat to journalism, yet so many of you don't give a feck that Assange is dying of torture under UK regime imprisonment (for crime of exposing US war crimes, an actual journalism achievement) and Greenwald (whose real journalism helped get Lula freed, and had him under all sorts of life-threatening pressure in Brazil) and was actually abused physically and punched in the fact by de-facto Fascists last week... (more physical and life-threatening abuse than ANY American journalist has suffered under the apparently dictatorial Trump administration)...yet you don't give a damn, because likes of Assange/Greenwald don't share your MSNBC-like agenda and talking points.


All pretenders about the fight against fascism/tyranny...you'll well support it, if it was directed against people who you don't like personally, even if they were leftists.
 

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Right winged cnuts here, right winged cnuts there. Right winged cnuts everywhere.
 

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“I want a Bolivia free of satanic indigenous rituals. The city is not for the indigenous. They should go to the mountains or plains”

Words from the self proclaimed president that shows pretty much what the coup mongers are about.
 

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Blodssvik said:
“I want a Bolivia free of satanic indigenous rituals. The city is not for the indigenous. They should go to the mountains or plains”

Words from the self proclaimed president that shows pretty much what the coup mongers are about.
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What a cnut. Hope he is sacrificed on a mountain somewhere.
 

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Grim stuff, governors being attacked, mp's being threatened, insane right wing militias assaulting indigenous people. No one can have the illusion this had anything to do with democracy.
 

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So an elected president derided as being an enemy of democratic values is forcefully removed from office and replaced by a right wing lunatic who’s unceremoniously announced herself as the new president while encouraging urban ethnic displacement.

Real victory for democracy.
 

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Travesty that it has come this far, Evo Morales and his socialist policies were one of the best things to happen to Bolivia and it pulled a lot of people out of dire poverty, provided basic resources and started to put them on the map as a tourist destination. He fecked up by trying to force a constitutional change to run for another term instead of planning a proper succession so his policies and legacy could live on.

Of course religion, racism and conservatism are on hand to feck a good thing up.
 

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Socialists in South America need to avoid using the word socialism, because it triggers irrational and destructive behaviour in many people, especially among religious groups and populations involved in the agrobusiness. You would not expect so many hate towards Morales, because the performance in terms of economic grow and decreasing poverty was excellent. Had he named his movement after any label other than socialism, i bet he would still be president.
 

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Charles Miller said:
Socialists in South America need to avoid using the word socialism, because it triggers irrational and destructive behaviour in many people, especially among religious groups and populations involved in the agrobusiness. You would not expect so many hate towards Morales, because the performance in terms of economic grow and decreasing poverty was excellent. Had he named his movement after any label other than socialism, i bet he would still be president.
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even then, the dispute was whether he won 46 or 50% of the vote (the other party got less than 40% for sure). it is not like he was about to get voted out.
idk enough about what you're saying to comment, but for evo/bolivia, this was much more a coup rather than a popular reaction against the word. and if the US is any guide, you can run from the word and even from the policies (obama), but the opponents will still call you a commie.
 
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