Lingard deserves to play though? His performances have been better. He does what the managers requires from him. Martial doesn't. You don't play on potential of what you might be capable of one day maybe, you play on merit.
Bouhafsi: Martial wants to leave United
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What other conclusion can you draw if Sanchez was given chance after chance despite being awful?
We need someone of Dybla quality imo
Love Martial, but he's not as good as we all thought he was going to be. Saying he will be WC in the future is just speculation. It may happen, but I think he's got a long way to go yet and next season I doubt he'll prove any of his doubters wrong.
Will be fine if he leaves provided we don't get someone underwhelming to replace him.
Will be fine if he leaves provided we don't get someone underwhelming to replace him.
I just saw someone say we cost him his place at the WC. I mean FFS.
Give them cash plus Martial for Verratti. Their FFP situation is overblown.
Tony will be happy to be back in France; Raiola gets his man to OT <plus his usual cut>. Everyone satisfied.
So from our bench to yours eh?
Get rid of one of the most successful managers in history for a kid who has proven nothing. That's the kind of logic I like.
Not one, few of them. The legend grows.
Martial is 22.
I doubt we will get a good deal if we sold him outright, but as part of a deal, Martial could give us great leverage.
Use the funds for a right winger and this improves us IMO.
I do think Sanchez wouldn't be criticised so harshly for not settling in straight away if he wasn't taking Martials place in the side.
Its hard to combat the "He'll leave and magically win the Balon For at Madrid" mindset.
I do think Sanchez wouldn't be criticised so harshly for not settling in straight away if he wasn't taking Martials place in the side.
Its hard to combat the "He'll leave and magically win the Balon For at Madrid" mindset.
Off yer pop
Not part of the Martial FC, but he is one of my favorite players.
He would deliver better under another manager IMO, but right now Mou is our manager and i support him.
Good luck to him if he leaves.
He would deliver better under another manager IMO, but right now Mou is our manager and i support him.
Good luck to him if he leaves.
It will happen to just about every 'top' player we buy going forward.
Fred will need replaced. So will Griezmann if he comes and we realise he's apparently not very good. Just like Martial. Just like Pogba. Just like Sanchez.
For some poor souls, the penny will never drop.
If he was playing he'd be scoring hat tricks in every game. You can't prove he wouldn't.
Maybe Sanchez shows more dedication and effort?
Fans seem to forget that we only see a tiny portion of what goes on. If Martial isn't putting in the effort in training then he's not going to get himself in the managers plans.
There's no reason for Mourinho to just randomly decided to feck with a player.
Don't worry about that, we're refusing to give bloody Darmian away so there's no chance of Martial going for anything less than 100m
It's just wishful thinking from the Martial fanboys. Euros 2016 came after Martial's best season and he played 45 minutes for France that tournament iirc. Deschamps has publicly questioned Martial on more than one occasion.
Any chance of a loan deal out and we wait and see if Mou explodes in his 3rd season? Might be a bit shitty by us but try price him out of a move and then agree to a loan move later on in the window.
Ffs this isn't hard to understand. Journalists aren't in the room for medicals. He said there was a deal for Fekir done, the deal was done. It broke down due to a medical the journalist would know nothing about.
I remember people saying Welbeck will be a new Henry. Maybe not a good comparison cause Martial is of course lot more talented but just to portray the panic we're seeing here now.
You've got me there man.
Whatever chances he had evaporated with the arrival of Sanchez who destabilize everything. Clearly there was a Martial before Sanchez came and a Martial after Sanchez came. Even with a faultless season nothing would've been guaranteed as we've seen with Sane but Martial is someone who can blame the club because he never got the chance to impress after January. He played half a season IMO.
I know he wants to play. He will play if he works hard and have a good attitude. People who work hard and dont give up will always have success.
For the people who are moaning at the mometn, did they bother reading what @BBRBB translated? I meant it's as clear as they club want him to stay just as we heard previously, but Martial's circle pushed for the move, and it's not the first time!!! Sure he wants to play more and we're not giving, but the thing is whether he deserves as much playing time as what he asks for all this time? Was Martial flawless so that his side can shift all the blame elsewhere? Ironically the implication for Martial fall out was with Alexi transfer when the agent confirmed the contract talk was held at least couple months in advance, and Martial didn't commit with the club.
Oh that's a great tactic. Waiting for the manager to 'explode'. Or better yet combust or has a meltdown?
Great talent and amazing dribbler but lacking the desire to fight for his place in the team and whilst I appreciate that has been difficult for him under Mourinho you have to look objectively at his performances and consistency, not just the great individual moments.
My sentiments exactly. This is all conjecture on my part but when he arrived and hit the ground running I thought it had a lot to do with having a settled personal life i.e. married with a kid and oddly enough his form kind of went to shit around the time the first set of affair rumours started circling.
Cant stay and fight for his place? Ok then feck off.
Oh great. So Mou is never to blame because for all we know everything outside the pitch could prove his decision is correct.
Get rid of a manager who has us playing painfully boring, ineffectual football for one of the brightest talents in the game.
Hasn't he been stagnating ... a bit-part player for United and dropped from the French WC squad? Of course he's young, so his rise might re-set and start again under a new manager.
And if you don't think that Toby would be beneficial for United, then why do United want him?
On the subject of compensation, assuming Toby goes to you, how much are you imagining it would take? I ask because Spurs have spare money this summer.
He's not anywhere near as good as some people hype him up to be. We won't miss him.
We're going to lose a potentially world class player because he can't get enough game time for a manager that regularly plays average players like Rashford and Lingard. It's ridiculous.
Doesn't go with the script..
One of the brightest talents in the game? Really?
Just sell him, but I'm sure it's just a tactic to get him more money. It always comes down to money
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