afrocentricity
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Some much needed perspective, bravo!Tweet
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This guy is delusional.Tweet
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Crikey, I vaguely know him through work. Never expected to see him on QT.This guy is delusional.
At this point we either put a plaster on the wound or keep letting it bleed and get worse.There is a school of thought among business people that the damage has already been done, even if we end up staying in Europe.
Business has lost confidence in the UK and the largest employers are already looking for exit routes. Witness e.g. Honda, BMW/Mini
I don't know if this view has any merit, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Spot on, the CU does not solve the SM issue!Putting it another way.
Let's say for arguments sake.
1. Customs Union gets a majority.
2. PM accepts to adopt a Customs Union as a change to the political declaration
3. EU are open to the idea of the UK being in a customs union
4. It is added to the political declaration that during the transition period the UK and the EU will negotiate that the UK may join some kind of CU
what happens next
5. the UK now signs the WA and avoids no deal
or
5. No we still won't sign it because the backstop is still there and we're still a vassal state.
Answers on a postcard.
could this have tipped the result in Leave's favour?[/QUOTE]
So it would seem, "that all is fair, in love, war" … and Brexit!
I'm of this view, however the only sane option is to put an end to the madness and work to rebuild things.There is a school of thought among business people that the damage has already been done, even if we end up staying in Europe.
Business has lost confidence in the UK and the largest employers are already looking for exit routes. Witness e.g. Honda, BMW/Mini
I don't know if this view has any merit, but it wouldn't surprise me.
I think the ERG/DUP objections on the backstop are now secondary to be honest.Putting it another way.
Let's say for arguments sake.
1. Customs Union gets a majority.
2. PM accepts to adopt a Customs Union as a change to the political declaration
3. EU are open to the idea of the UK being in a customs union
4. It is added to the political declaration that during the transition period the UK and the EU will negotiate that the UK may join some kind of CU
what happens next
5. the UK now signs the WA and avoids no deal
or
5. No we still won't sign it because the backstop is still there and we're still a vassal state.
Answers on a postcard.
If we were to somehow get article 50 revoked. It would be essential to put into law a 15/20 year lock on our membership just to give businesses confidence to invest here in the medium term.I'm of this view, however the only sane option is to put an end to the madness and work to rebuild things.
Saying "the damage is done, feck it" and leaving anyway is like trying to put out a fire with lighter fluid.
I see our very own Trump is on his way to running the country sigh. I can't understand how anyone could want himAn Opinium poll for the Observer reveals that May’s lead over Jeremy Corbyn on who would be the best prime minister has halved since last month, dropping from 15 points to 7 points. When Tory leadership hopefuls were pitted against Corbyn, Boris Johnson was the only one who had a lead over the Labour leader. A quarter of voters (25%) thought Johnson would be the best prime minister, compared with 24% for Corbyn.
As opposed to?I just think Corbyn will be awful as PM.
The textbook reason for follow-up elections in a functional Democracy is exactly this.So they've finally accepted it - there will probably be zero to little in the way of consequences for the like of Gove and Johnson.
If Vote Leave broke spending rules is there any way of using this to say that the first EU referendum is invalid? The vote was close, extra money - illegal money - spent on campaigning for a Leave vote, could this have tipped the result in Leave's favour?
It depends, but if there's a no-deal Brexit the pound will plummet. If there's a deal there'll be an initial bump-up. It's hard to assess what the long-term impact will be, really.Apologies for posting a slightly off topic question here.
I have a prospective job opportunity in the UK and wanted to know is the pound expected to devalue as a currency after brexit happens? For example a couple of years ago 1 GBP was approximately 100 INR and now it is around 90 INR. Is it expected to fall further, and if so, what is the general estimate for the devaluation?
IfIf there is a GE lets hope that one party gets an overall majority.
I can second that.I just think Corbyn will be awful as PM.
The only real reason to object to the WA was the backstop, all other avenues could have been explored in the transition period anyway.I think the ERG/DUP objections on the backstop are now secondary to be honest.
I think Labour will support a soft brexit even with the backstop issue but only on a confirmatory vote (CU vs Remain). It allows them to claim that brexit is supported whilst also giving remain a chance to overturn.
It depends what happens. If the UK leave with a hard Brexit the pound will lose a lot of value. If they go for a very soft Brexit which is not too far different to the current relationship the pound will probably improve.Apologies for posting a slightly off topic question here.
I have a prospective job opportunity in the UK and wanted to know is the pound expected to devalue as a currency after brexit happens? For example a couple of years ago 1 GBP was approximately 100 INR and now it is around 90 INR. Is it expected to fall further, and if so, what is the general estimate for the devaluation?
That very much requires a trust in the government, only an idiot would sign off on brexit and give this goverment complete freedom to control the way forward. The way forward and the divorce have to be decided together, we made that principle into law.The only real reason to object to the WA was the backstop, all other avenues could have been explored in the transition period anyway.
ERG just want to leave. DUP I think is another matter. Labour who knows.
But a CU only is not a soft Brexit. You still have borders, no FoM, no SM. No attraction for foreign investors, no advantage for other countries to make agreement and it doesn't solve the problem of the Irish border.
Yes, ok, to stop Brexit as well. Yes , I'm not disagreeing that the two go together, on the other hand who knows how the discussions on the future relationship will evolve which will also will depend on who is in charge of them.That very much requires a trust in the government, only an idiot would sign off on brexit and give this goverment complete freedom to control the way forward. The way forward and the divorce have to be decided together, we made that principle into law.
There's obviously also the main reason, to stop brexit.
Idiots then, the lot of them....So i am getting the feeling that people in here would vote tory, the party that brought you this glorious mess.
'I chose not to vote Labour, i chose something much worse'
Westminster doesn't care.Petition has hit 6m.
Starmer.If
I can second that.
The only hope for a Labour government is if the Tories elect Gove as leader.
However, even against Gove, Corbyn would still be difficult to elect as PM.
If they have any sense at all and ambition to become the government, Labour would get rid of Corbyn and replace him with someone far more electable. Difficult to say who because the talent pool is pretty much empty.
Sadly they have no such sense or ambition so they will stick with Jeremy and remain in opposition.
Incidentally, I see that the Tories have started a coordinated campaign to tell everyone that the Brexit shambles is all the fault of Labour and nothing to do with themselves...
I would be happy with him. Far too sensible for the likes of Momentum.Starmer.
A) May hinted at it last weeka) why people on here think there will be a GE (soon) and;
b) what difference would it make to Brexit?
I think thornberry is the bookies favouriteStarmer.
She’s great but she did the white van thing so might get grief again.I think thornberry is the bookies favourite
She's a member of labour friends of Israel... Jezbollah and momentum won't like thatShe’s great but she did the white van thing so might get grief again.
Thats rich coming from you, Tory Brexit enabler.So i am getting the feeling that people in here would vote tory, the party that brought you this glorious mess.
'I chose not to vote Labour, i chose something much worse'
Yes, it was always going to look like that.Watched a segment on "March to Leave". I can see Jon Snow's point. The lack of diversity is striking. I would bet you could predict pretty accurately who joined the march with just age, gender and race.
Yeah whenever i look at brexit comments on twitter 95% are men with a flag or england shirt in their picture. Can tell most of them a mile offWatched a segment on "March to Leave". I can see Jon Snow's point. The lack of diversity is striking. I would bet you could predict pretty accurately who joined the march with just age, gender and race.
UK PRIME MINISTER Theresa May is set to make a stunning appearance on Eastenders tonight, as she makes a last-ditch attempt to save her Brexit deal.
The beleaguered Prime Minister has faced a string of crushing blows, and will hope that she receives a better reception from the patrons of the Queen Vic – and the general public – on tonight’s special live edition of the soap opera.
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