MoskvaRed
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117 against even with a promise to step down before the election.
Got to at least try.Labour might have enough to win a vote of no confidence in the government if a few of the hard right tories throw their toys out of the pram.
It's funny how missing a strike of the space bar can change your meaning so much.Rees-Mogg is such a cnut. Hard to hate him anymore.
Far from the best. Take away Brexit and she's one of the worst.I’m glad she survived, only because she’s the best of the Tory worst. But this is hardly a ringing endorsement.
Hard to hate him any more than I currently do! In case that was in any way unclear...It's funny how a missing a strike of the space bar can change your meaning so much.
I know what you meant, I just found it funnyHard to hate him any more than I currently do! In case that was in any way unclear...
I was thinking purely in the context of Brexit & the Brexiteer lot.Far from the best. Take away Brexit and she's one of the worst.
Just need the leader of the oppo to table a motion.If this no-confidence vote would have been for the whole house, she would have lost. Why didn't they go for that? What is required to trigger that? Now she is safe for a year, which is probably for the best considering the alternatives being Gove or Johnson.
All those votes against wouldn’t happen in a commons wide vote.If this no-confidence vote would have been for the whole house, she would have lost. Why didn't they go for that? What is required to trigger that? Now she is safe for a year, which is probably for the best considering the alternatives being Gove or Johnson.
Cos that risks a new election and most of the Tories who voted against her won't risk that in case they lose power and/or their seat at that election. Most of the 117 would vote in her defence in a Commons no confidence vote.If this no-confidence vote would have been for the whole house, she would have lost. Why didn't they go for that? What is required to trigger that? Now she is safe for a year, which is probably for the best considering the alternatives being Gove or Johnson.
Yeah surely that's obvious? The context changes when it's a commons vote.All those votes against wouldn’t happen in a commons wide vote.
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Ah that's a fair point.Cos that risks a new election and most of the Tories who voted against her won't risk that in case they lose power and/or their seat at that election. Most of the 117 would vote in her defence in a Commons no confidence vote.
I suspect she knows that... But stringing out enough to rule out any other options before putting it to the commons that they either vitevfir her deal or its no deal... she might even be prepared to allow a referendum with the options her deal or no deal117 votes!!
Voting on the deal in the parliament is a waste of time. She's postponing the inevitable.
Live in Scotland.I think 2016-18 has probably put me off British politicians for a lifetime. My Dad’s so bitter that he dislikes everyone, I’m struggling to see how you can take an alternative view.
Massive is a huge stretch. This can’t help her position in the UK or in Europe.They are playing up those 117 votes but it still feels like a massive win for her, all things considered.
fecking amazing how many politicians are still calling for more votes on everything except the one thing that matters.
It hasThey voted her in in 2016 and now they decided they wanted another vote but the people aren't allowed another vote.
I'm sure that irony has been mentioned already
Yeah, never mind democracy, I think Brexit has well and truly wrecked what little faith I had in politicians.I think 2016-18 has probably put me off British politicians for a lifetime. My Dad’s so bitter that he dislikes everyone, I’m struggling to see how you can take an alternative view.
Win?They are playing up those 117 votes but it still feels like a massive win for her, all things considered.
fecking amazing how many politicians are still calling for more votes on everything except the one thing that matters.
No deal or a GE and a delay or revocation of A50 as an outside chance.Labour / Richard Burgon still saying they're going to renegotiate with the EU and get a better deal ie the unicorn deal.
No deal is a certainty surely.
A GE might even give Tories a bigger majority and the leader may well be a Hard Brexiter.No deal or a GE and a delay or revocation of A50 as an outside chance.
Could be. Who knows these days?A GE might even give Tories a bigger majority and the leader may well be a Hard Brexiter.
Labour don't seem any more keen on a referendum than the Tories nor revoking A50.
You could have all that and be back in the same place as the UK is now in a few months time.