My point is that many people from all walks of life have got into a fight on a night out. I'm not condoning it, but it happens. I just find it odd that some quarters seem to be blaming various other people and occupations for the reaction, as well as acting as if this is societies fault for laughing at her. It may be judgemental, I don't even care, we're all judgemental. Her behaviour was just starking mad and many people don't like it.
Brit girl in 'sordid Magaluf sex acts'
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He's the only one thick enough to claim everyone who disagrees with him is lying, Jippy. There isn't a lot of that going on here. It's just him.
I agree fwiw.
More left-leaning people tend to use Tory as an insult to those more inclined to the right. Both sides are equally guilty of it. Anyway, going off topic a bit.
Yes, yep and indeed.
We're allowed to think it's risky behaviour, and therefore a pretty stupid thing to do. Like I said earlier though, people do stupid things when they're drunk.
I think some people just seem to be incredulous that others saying sticking 24 cocks in your mouth in a row is no biggie. It has certainly turned out to be in this case.
Ah, well you've met her there, you see. Would you meet her for a nice, quiet drink knowing beforehand? If I was chatting with somebody and she was nice then the admission wouldn't deflect from the fact she was initially nice, but yes, I would probably find myself backing away.
Judgemental? Perhaps, but we all are at times. Some of the time with good reason. Sometimes not.
We certainly are. I wouldn't do it but I don't take drugs either, these days. I'm a cautious sort. My decision, no better or worse than other peoples decisions, when it comes to things that just effect themselves.
I wouldn't meet her for a nice quiet drink if it was all I knew about her. I wouldn't meet her for a nice quiet drink if all I knew about her was her name, though.
Safety in numbers. Take 23 mates along if you are going to meet her for a drink.
Anyway, what's all this about me being a drama queen, in this thread, Jippy?
I can be a drama queen, I've done none of it here though.
I actually invited her for a can of Tab at SteveJ Towers but she declined & said that she has some standards.
I wouldn't take it personally, Steve. She's probably a lesbian.
I'm talking generally, I'm talking from a personal standpoint, and yes, I cannot envisage many people around this age bracket giving this kind of person the time of day.
Yes the section you quoted was quite a claim, and yes I'm sure the odd person here and there would brush it off and take her out. and good for them, but the reality, like I say, isn't the same as intellectual comments on a forum attempting to rationalise things. The average Joe will just take the piss out of her, and I can't blame them for it. I don't think this kind of mocking is some kind of big societal problem, which I've seen suggested.
You were talking shite, as evidenced by the fact you're now toning your claim down with every post you make.
It was more aimed at Silva who was coming up with increasingly ridiculous analogies on undeveloped paletes etc...tbh.
The thing is, she probably wouldn't do it, normally. She was almost certainly scouted as someone who looked absolutely wasted and gullible enough to coerce into doing it.
But doesn't this happen everyday? in so many different situations...
I keep going back to my original argument, no one wants to address it... why is this girl singled out?
Her being hammered obviously played a major part in her being selected but how the hell do you look at a room full of pissed women and decide 'that one will definitely gobble 24 blokes? It's not mentioned or even clear if others turned down the 'opportunity'.Yes fine it does in the occasional porn film, but even prostitutes will mostly see a single client at a time rather do a public display like this. You know when porn-style stuff spills over into real life, particularly in a place where middle class parents' kids are holidaying, it is going to cause a hoohah.
Have you ever seen this happen in a pub or club in your lifetime? I don't know anyone who has. The venue and circumstances are just a bit odd and grubby.
Well if she's already got 12 on the go you can probably assume she'll double it. Nah, I'm sure age played a part too, probably who she was with etc.
Like I said, the odd one or two would, or claim on an Internet forum in a need to appear intellectually balanced that they would, go out with a girl that blew 24 guys in one night. For the most part people would run a mile.
I'm leaving it there in regards to that. It always seems to be somebody else's fault. Some societal problem or other. I find that this can over-complicate the issue.
I don't need to appear intellectually balanced. I have arguments with a basis, unlike your adorably naive view that because a lot of people who don't think things through would agree with you, everyone who doesn't is lying.
I know and I do totally get why you hate the lack of attention on this but the view that this girl deserves no sympathy because she's a bad person who brought it on herself is a desperately unhealthy one that deserves challenging.
It does somewhat boil down to sexism. The reason she is being, and will continue to be abused is because it is deemed by some to be slaggish behaviour. Yet those who do not give her abuse, and even offer sympathy will still find what she did fairly shocking.
Were a man to perform the equivalent, it's likely he wouldn't even need to be bribed if we're honest. And yes, he would also probably receive a pat on the back from all his lad friends. So it is a case of perspective i think.
Were a man to perform the equivalent, it's likely he wouldn't even need to be bribed if we're honest. And yes, he would also probably receive a pat on the back from all his lad friends. So it is a case of perspective i think.
No need for Boris to order some stocks along with the water cannons then...
Occasional? I'd suggest you see it on all porn sites now and a lot worse! This content in magaluf is extremely tame compared to what can be found on any site online, as for escorts / prostitutes (whatever tag you give them) they see multiple clients in a day... meaning they engaged in multiple acts of oral sex, ok its not simultaneously!
Wouldn't it be better for main stream media to tackle the issue of prostitution? say, legalizing it and getting women out of grubby, illegal brothels? away from pimps and keeping them safe? Or making the porn industry regulated, dictating that all performers be made wear condoms? Aren't they far more pressing issues than one drunk girl being taken advantage of?
You address the issue then, why did this happen in a normal bar / club? Ideally it shouldn't be happening, but in these type of resorts abroad it does...I recall stories like this every summer now for the last few years or more. All since the break out of "Ibiza Uncovered" on Sky. Remember those two women who had slept with 30 blokes each, they we're made "mini celebs", they had their 5mins of fame. Around that time a group my mates and I went over to Corfu and there was outrage because some girl blew off 3 guys while they stood on the bar...that was literally in front of kids. That was about ten years back roughly, a curfew was put in place then after that. That same holiday in the town we we're in a girl was video'd banging two guys on the beach and everyone cheering them on... I've seen and heard tonnes of similar stories tbh!
If the owners want sex in their establishment they should just open up a swingers joint, logic would suggest that wouldn't line their grubby little pockets though and they go for a bar instead and run these "competitions" instead.
Magaluf isn't really for families, I'd not bring my family near it. I know what goes on there, if I was 18-25 again that'd probably suit me more...but adults with kids? stay far away!
You seem to have an incredibly narrow, self-absorbed obsession on the worth of others, centered around their suitability as a mate.
I didn't realise that this girls sadistic public humiliation doubled up as a lonely hearts ad.
Personally, I don't. But I'm actually trying to talk from the general way males and females between the ages of 18-21 act and think from my experience. People are judgemental and many males and females at university or work, particularly at university, will mock, judge and dismiss people that behave like this. Go on Twitter, they're all at it.
On a personal level, this person isn't a bad person by any means, so I disagree about assessing worth, I do in general. But I will openly admit to thinking the girl has acted like an idiot and that I wouldn't feel comfortable or want to meet/go out with a girl that I knew had behaved this way before. I'd stay away. From my perception, I think many, many people will feel the same. For those that don't, well they're a lot more open-minded than me on this one, and good for them.
Disown her.
I never watched Ibiza Uncovered tbh. Maybe this kind of stuff does happen in Magaluf more often than people know, but I guess this story took hold as it spread around on social media. There's not a fat lot we can do about the regulation of bars abroad and the legalisation of prostitution is a separate issue.Occasional? I'd suggest you see it on all porn sites now and a lot worse! This content in magaluf is extremely tame compared to what can be found on any site online, as for escorts / prostitutes (whatever tag you give them) they see multiple clients in a day... meaning they engaged in multiple acts of oral sex, ok its not simultaneously!
Wouldn't it be better for main stream media to tackle the issue of prostitution? say, legalizing it and getting women out of grubby, illegal brothels? away from pimps and keeping them safe? Or making the porn industry regulated, dictating that all performers be made wear condoms? Aren't they far more pressing issues than one drunk girl being taken advantage of?
You address the issue then, why did this happen in a normal bar / club? Ideally it shouldn't be happening, but in these type of resorts abroad it does...I recall stories like this every summer now for the last few years or more. All since the break out of "Ibiza Uncovered" on Sky. Remember those two women who had slept with 30 blokes each, they we're made "mini celebs", they had their 5mins of fame. Around that time a group my mates and I went over to Corfu and there was outrage because some girl blew off 3 guys while they stood on the bar...that was literally in front of kids. That was about ten years back roughly, a curfew was put in place then after that. That same holiday in the town we we're in a girl was video'd banging two guys on the beach and everyone cheering them on... I've seen and heard tonnes of similar stories tbh!
If the owners want sex in their establishment they should just open up a swingers joint, logic would suggest that wouldn't line their grubby little pockets though and they go for a bar instead and run these "competitions" instead.
Magaluf isn't really for families, I'd not bring my family near it. I know what goes on there, if I was 18-25 again that'd probably suit me more...but adults with kids? stay far away!
Btw I missed out on these holidays when young cos I was a skint student and then a debt-riddled graduate, so I've never seen these places first hand. Now I only go on hols with the missus so Magaluf is out of the question!
I do think using porn as a benchmark for public behaviour is a bit odd though. Where does it end? Shagging a horse?
It was trash, but of course I watched it being younger when it was on.
These stories are happening every summer now, the rags pick up on it and decide to crucify some poor sod every time. I know we can't control their laws, but their governments should probably be stepping in, but they don't...why? money of course! Brings in tourism and lines their pockets, so they pretend to be outraged and put up a show for about a week and things go back to the way they we're!
I only ever went to Corfu that one time, other than that I didn't go near those places... preferred City breaks round Europe myself. From that one break all that went on when I was there!
As for porn in society, sadly its getting out of hand...Used to see no problem with it but its definitely getting OTT! The content more graphic, yet its even more easily available to younger and younger audiences (most mobile phones can access the content). Channel 4 done documentary on it last year I think and it was very interesting to see the damage its doing to kids these days. Creating false ideals of sex and how women should be treated, more shocking its giving women the idea that carrying on like the porn stars do is right. I agree porn as a benchmark for society is very worrying.
These are far more worrying aspects than how it is being reported by the rags!
To be honest, I think you and Silva are completely missing the point. You are trying to treat this as an example of people reacting with shame to an expression of overt female sexuality, but that isn't what this is at all.
This is about an expression of male sexuality and the objectification of a woman by offering a bribe for sexual pleasure... and her complicity in it.
I think it's her right to objectify herself.
No doubt, but we can still find that distasteful.
Yeah but I can find flip-flops with socks distasteful, ultimately it's none of my business if people wish to do it though and passing judgment on how strangers choose to live their lives, when it doesn't really effect you, is silly.
That's up to you, but personally I don't like to see women objectified as sex objects, regardless of whether it's men or women behind it.
I like objectifying myself, from time to time. It can be fun and doesn't hurt anyone.