RedDevilQuebecois
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If you like Trumpists this much, Pierre, why don't you feck off very deep to the South of the border?
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I can't believe what poor leaders we have across the board. He looks, at worst, average when you stack him up against his contemporaries both domestically and internationally.Now if we could just oust our own scandal ridden sorry excuse for a Prime Minister.
well done TW.Our provincial election put up a potato and plain yoghurt against grease and the majority chose to stay home, unsurprisingly.
Don't underestimate what is going on now in a lot of areas.There's no way Charest beats Poilievre in the CPC leadership race, so with Brown out of the way, it seems pretty much a given that Poilievre will win.
I don't think he can win a minority (let alone a majority) government due to his ideas - buy his rhetoric and arguments will drag political discussion through the mud and increase polarization, which is already getting bad. It's worrying.
(Telling him to move south is nonsense though. Of course he wants to move the country where he lives in the direction he likes, that's what politicians do.)
He also doesn't understand that one of the reasons is the presence of International Civil Aviation Organization and International Air Transport Association in Montreal. Take them away from Montreal and it loses a lot of it's importance.This is in the context of the upcoming provincial election in Quebec. Fecking hell!
'80 per cent of immigrants go to Montreal, don't work, don't speak French': CAQ immigration minister (CTV News)
If you wanted to find a grade A obnoxious cnut in all of Canada, he is the one. People like him bring disgrace and shame upon my home province. Using the pun that goes with his name in French, "boulet" means the ball that goes with chains. In other words, that minister is a dead weight, especially when he fails to explain why the percentage of immigrants with a college degree is considerably higher than for those born in Quebec.
Indeed. The rest of the province should show a lot more gratitude towards this city for giving international visibility.He also doesn't understand that one of the reasons is the presence of International Civil Aviation Organization and International Air Transport Association in Montreal. Take them away from Montreal and it loses a lot of it's importance.
Ha, and then Legault of all people chastises him for saying what he really means! The Legault who the very same day said that allowing more than 50k immigrants into Quebec annually would be 'a bit suicidal' - and earlier directly linked immigration to violence and radicalization. (Each time apologizing afterwards for having poorly expressed his actual thoughts - just like Boulet here.)This is in the context of the upcoming provincial election in Quebec. Fecking hell!
'80 per cent of immigrants go to Montreal, don't work, don't speak French': CAQ immigration minister (CTV News)
If you wanted to find a grade A obnoxious cnut in all of Canada, he is the one. People like him bring disgrace and shame upon my home province. Using the pun that goes with his name in French, "boulet" means the ball that goes with chains. In other words, that minister is a dead weight, especially when he fails to explain why the percentage of immigrants with a college degree is considerably higher than for those born in Quebec.
They already want it as the sentiment is growing more now. Not a province as such but independent from Quebec. Montreal is very upset at the rhetoric from Quebec because they know that they will lose the headquarters of both the International Civil Aviation Organization and International Air Transport Association if Quebec creates problems like this. There have been attempts by other countries to move them and it nearly succeeded but the federal government with the help of other friendly countries managed to avert it. Then that idiot Pauline Marois comes to the General Assembly of ICAO and tells everyone how different Quebec is to all other provinces. All the ministers from the other countries were looking at each other and thinking WTF? Here ICAO was trying to unite everyone and she is trying to divide?Indeed. The rest of the province should show a lot more gratitude towards this city for giving international visibility.
My personal feeling is that further negligence and disdain from successive provincial governments towards Montreal will see a growing sentiment of Metropolitan Montrealers wanting the region to become its own province down the road. Let's not kid ourselves: we people in the metropolitan area see and feel a lot of nearly irreconcilable differences with the rest of the province.
Party | % of votes | # of seats | % of seats |
CAQ | 41.0% | 90 | 72.0% |
PLQ | 14.4% | 21 | 16.8% |
QS | 15.4% | 11 | 8.8% |
PQ | 14.6% | 3 | 2.4% |
PCQ | 12.9% | 0 | 0% |
Sad days ahead indeed with that CAQ majority.So, another four year of boomer politics in Quebec after that resounding CAQ win. I mean, their party platform is really just a best of Quebec boomer opinions: fewer non-white immigrants (disguise: protect Quebec's unique identity), less Ottawa, a capitalist view of society, little care for climate change - and that's about it. Sigh.
It's a lot like Ontario in that the map looks entirely CAQ, until you zoom in on cities and find the non-consetvative vote. Unfortunately for Quebec, though, Quebec City, Trois-Rivières and Gatineau (outside Pontiac - probably because of the many Anglos) also voted CAQ, so you're really just left with Montreal and Sherbrooke for the progressive vote (and one riding around Quebec City). It's quite messed up that SO MUCH of the province goes for capitalist identity politics.The PLQ's wins are mostly concentrated within the Metropolitan Montreal area. It may remind our British friends of how the SNP controls Scotland, but it clearly testifies the large disconnection between Montreal and the rest of the province as I wrote the other day about it. Considering that everything that has gone with the PLQ in the last few years (undertones of racism from the outside against the party's leader, a purge of the old and corrupt farts from the Charest/Couillard era, a recent shift from the party to the left, defections from some MPs, etc.), it was a decent night for them and a clear middle finger from Montreal to CAQ.
The thing with all the xenophobia and racism from the CAQ in this campaign is that many of their voters agree with virtually everything that was said. There was a lot of outrage in the media, and probably in Montreal; but I bet if you polled CAQ voters, they'd just say that Legault and Boulet described reality. Again, very messed up.In the midst of the depressing part where CAQ got its majority, the palm for worst miscreants and morons in the world yesterday has to go to the people of Rouyn-Noranda–Témiscamingue and Trois-Rivières. In the case of Rouyn-Noranda–Témiscamingue, they voted for CAQ by electing a former Liberal on a 15-year political hiatus even though that district was clearly neglected by CAQ regarding the highly polluting Horne Smelter and its arsenic emissions. In Trois-Rivières, they voted for that racist cnut of immigration minister who should have been kicked out of the party instead of showing his face as a candidate. What does that say about the peopel in that county? No need to add on that part, I guess.
What's the issue then? Politicians don't draw out the ridings though.The Liberals have fecked up certainly in Atlantic Canada. The redrawn boundaries have everyone up in arms. Trudeau is not going to win any seats that's competitive. Lots of anger at him. Not that the conservatives are popular but it's now anything but Trudeau. Just like Harper losing his last election.
The riding boundaries are set independently. It has nothing to do with the libs. What are you on about?The Liberals have fecked up certainly in Atlantic Canada. The redrawn boundaries have everyone up in arms. Trudeau is not going to win any seats that's competitive. Lots of anger at him. Not that the conservatives are popular but it's now anything but Trudeau. Just like Harper losing his last election.
Also, anyone voting for Poilievre out of spite has a couple of screws missing. At least vote for the NDP then. Poilievre would really feck things up for the country if he had his way.The riding boundaries are set independently. It has nothing to do with the libs. What are you on about?
I was asking myself the same thing. Parties don't draw riding boundaries here.The riding boundaries are set independently. It has nothing to do with the libs. What are you on about?
Officially they don't. But that's what they did. Adding French communities into the ridings where they are weak. The Acadians normally vote Liberal. It's also a ridiculous way to redraw the ridings because the newly incorporated communities have nothing in common. Then the Liberal mayors have been having meetings with the public trying to explain what it means. It's certainly political and not independent.The riding boundaries are set independently. It has nothing to do with the libs. What are you on about?
So how will they have done that? Cause it's an independent committee that redraws ridings based on a complex set of rules. Where do the Liberals come into that?Officially they don't. But that's what they did. Adding French communities into the ridings where they are weak. The Acadians normally vote Liberal. It's also a ridiculous way to redraw the ridings because the newly incorporated communities have nothing in common. Then the Liberal mayors have been having meetings with the public trying to explain what it means. It's certainly political and not independent.
By the way it's the same in the Provincial redrawing too. This time it's Provincial Conservative Party that's trying that stunt. It has still not officially announced yet in the Provincial one yet.
You must be really naive if you think there is no influence. It could be in where you are but certainly in The Maritimes it's not the same.So how will they have done that? Cause it's an independent committee that redraws ridings based on a complex set of rules. Where do the Liberals come into that?
The process is described here btw, if anyone is interested: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/electoral-boundaries-redistribution-analysis-wherry-1.6560821
They are the same boundaries. The provincial boundaries hold federally as well.Officially they don't. But that's what they did. Adding French communities into the ridings where they are weak. The Acadians normally vote Liberal. It's also a ridiculous way to redraw the ridings because the newly incorporated communities have nothing in common. Then the Liberal mayors have been having meetings with the public trying to explain what it means. It's certainly political and not independent.
By the way it's the same in the Provincial redrawing too. This time it's Provincial Conservative Party that's trying that stunt. It has still not officially announced yet in the Provincial one yet.
No, that's not true everywhere. Ontario decided to do that not too long ago, but e.g. New Brunswick has 10 seats in Ottawa and 49 in Fredericton.They are the same boundaries. The provincial boundaries hold federally as well.
Well today I got learned!No, that's not true everywhere. Ontario decided to do that not too long ago, but e.g. New Brunswick has 10 seats in Ottawa and 49 in Fredericton.
Cheimoon is correct. Federal and Provincial boundaries are not the same. Officially they are supposed to be neutral but in practice certainly in The Maritimes it's not.They are the same boundaries. The provincial boundaries hold federally as well.
I'm sorry but nothing you have said makes any sense. What meetings are you talking about?
Fair enough. I'm unfamiliar with East coast politics, but I've found across the spectrum we seem to be lacking leadership. The whole thing is really quite scary.Cheimoon is correct. Federal and Provincial boundaries are not the same. Officially they are supposed to be neutral but in practice certainly in The Maritimes it's not.
The meetings the Liberal Mayors attended to explain to the public why the redrawn boundaries are good for the province. It's pure BS. The fact that people are even talking about Poilievre could be the next PM is scary enough.
I suppose it might not help that scales are smaller in the Maritimes and people have closer connections to communities. The bigger the jurisdiction, the easier it is to have properly independent and qualified people for things like the electoral boundaries committee, but I suppose in the smaller provinces, it's not as clear-cut.Cheimoon is correct. Federal and Provincial boundaries are not the same. Officially they are supposed to be neutral but in practice certainly in The Maritimes it's not.
The meetings the Liberal Mayors attended to explain to the public why the redrawn boundaries are good for the province. It's pure BS.
I think there's a real chance he'll get most votes. Trudeau will have been in power for quite a while by the time of the next elections, so even if people aren't so much fed up with his direction, they might want to see a fresh face 'just because'. Poilievre has a somewhat similar image now as Trudeau when he first got to power (young, energetic, 'let's change this place'), and that might convince a fair bit of people. (Ironically, Poilievre has actually been in politics longer than Trudeau, and nothing he said is fresh, realistic, or will lead to long-term improvement - but we all know impressions have nothing to do with reality.)The fact that people are even talking about Poilievre could be the next PM is scary enough.
No I don't except first hand knowledge of this. These kinds of things don't get published in the newspapers. You have to take my word for this one.Btw, @Foxbatt, do you have links to articles that discuss these issues you're talking about? I was trying to look things up this morning but couldn't find anything except announcements of the process and public hearings. Thanks!
Did I say that? I suppose voters in general are getting a bit tired of Trudeau, but I have no idea about the Liberals themselves. I think Freeland is awesome and I hope she replaces Trudeau when it's time, but I have no idea where things actually stand on that.As you said even The Liberals don't want Trudeau to run next time. Dominique LeBlanc is not going to run. That leaves Freeland and Mark Carney, who most wanted to run. Not sure if he is going to do it either. Freeland is fairly unpopular among the members too.
And pro-oil, and pro-bitcoin, etc. Plenty to hit him with for his opponents. He doesn't seem the type to me who'll shift so much to the centre that he will be sufficiently widely acceptable for people to win a majority.As for Poilievre, he is a typical politician who is going to change his tone too. The difference between him and O' Toole is that he has charisma unlike O'Toole. So don't disregard him at all. He is pointing out that he is a Libertarian and his wife is from Venezuela. So he is pro immigration and less red tape etc.
Being part of the French community, I have never seen anything from him suggesting he cares about francophones in any meaningful way. He doesn't represent a francophone riding here in the Ottawa area either (and there are plenty). But just being able to speak French well will already give him an advantage over previous CPC leaders like Sheer and O'Toole.Already he has changed his tone on these things. So it all comes down to perception and he would get a lot of French votes in The Maritimes because another thing he is pointing out that he if French and mix Anglophone as he is adopted.
They need to get a fair bit of seats in The Maritimes to over turn The Liberals. Then there are Liberal ridings no matter what. He is not going to get them. But there are ridings he can over turn and he is working on these. He has already started the turn around on immigration. Now I don't know if he is going to keep his word or not but he is saying the right things to a lot of people who voted liberal. The liberal party is in a mess at least in The Maritimes right now. No one has a good word for them anymore. The MPs certainly have let a lot of people down. They don't elect the right MPs and even in Provincial by-election they lost seats to The Conservatives. These were safe Liberal seat.Did I say that? I suppose voters in general are getting a bit tired of Trudeau, but I have no idea about the Liberals themselves. I think Freeland is awesome and I hope she replaces Trudeau when it's time, but I have no idea where things actually stand on that.
And pro-oil, and pro-bitcoin, etc. Plenty to hit him with for his opponents. He doesn't seem the type to me who'll shift so much to the centre that he will be sufficiently widely acceptable for people to win a majority.
Being part of the French community, I have never seen anything from him suggesting he cares about francophones in any meaningful way. He doesn't represent a francophone riding here in the Ottawa area either (and there are plenty). But just being able to speak French well will already give him an advantage over previous CPC leaders like Sheer and O'Toole.
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The Twitter tag is meaningless though. All media get funding somewhere, and many media adapt their reporting because of that. Singling out governments is irrelevant and it's obvious why Musk would do this. It's equally obvious why Poilièvre thinks it's a good game to be in on. It's got nothing to do with journalistic integrity one way or another, but does lead to further erosion of public trust and polarization.To be fair Trudeau gave the media some $600 million in grants and subsidies aka a bailout. That's going to buy you a lot of favourable press.
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Not sure what the 'four-eyed idiot' part is about. What's wrong with having glasses?CBC/Radio-Canada decided to go the NPR route. Feck Elmo and feck his vision of Twitter.
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Yves-François Blanchet, leader of Bloc Québécois is not happy at all either, especially since any prospect of gutting the CBC would actually mean gutting arts, news and French language in the regions.
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Congratulations, you four-eyed idiot (Poilièvre). You managed to unite 3 out of the 4 major federal parties against you.