So you only want to make fun of black people? You are disgusting Tory.So you can only make fun of a person if they are white?
So you only want to make fun of black people? You are disgusting Tory.So you can only make fun of a person if they are white?
Should be able to make fun of anyone It's comedy.So you only want to make fun of black people? You are disgusting Tory.
The Sunak one is slightly off in the skin and overly broad frontal features but it has enough recognisable features to get a pasd. The Patel one is fine.How did you feel about the Patel and Sunak puppets?
He always looks like he is trying to work out who farted.Why does he always have that dumb look on his face? He might legit be a cardboard cut out for all I know, that’s all I’ve seen him do.
Even there I'm immediately drawn to the elongated eyes. Those and the cheeks would be the obviously identifiable features to exaggerate. It's hack shit work and lazily racist.They've said it was based on this picture
I've actually never seen Spitting Image so I don't know what the other puppets look like.
The Greta one is pretty good at least.Last month, ITV’s director of television Kevin Lygo revealed he attended a meeting to address how Spitting Image could parody black people as puppets in the wake of the Black Lives Matter Movement.
Speaking in a TV diversity session, he said: ‘The producers called me and said we need to have a conversation.
‘We discussed with the writer and the producers about how to portray black people as viciously caricatured puppets.
‘What is ok? What is not ok? Some of the answers are unclear, it is difficult, everybody is trying their best.’
Roger insisted its portrayal of black celebrities is not racist following ITV bosses’ meeting to discuss how to portray black people as puppets.
‘People sit around looking for things to complain about, and I do big noses and big ears. It’s personal – it’s not a racist thing,’ he said.
‘[Personal parody] has more effect on individuals than waxing lyrical about their policies.’
The features they choose to exaggerate fit a particular stereotype, and those exaggerated features are not very applicable to Rashford. Southgate’s features are exaggerated, and ridiculous, but they’re applicable to him as an individual not as a stereotype. Do you think that’s just a minor distinction?They over exaggerate certain features. Take a look at Southgate's nose. There's nothing racist about it.
Look at Boris Johnson's lips and nose. Are they that big in real life? No of course there not. Your just looking for something to be offended by.The features they choose to exaggerate fit a particular stereotype, and those exaggerated features are not very applicable to Rashford. Southgate’s features are exaggerated, and ridiculous, but they’re applicable to him as an individual not as a stereotype. Do you think that’s just a minor distinction?
You never even asked if I was offended. You just made the assumption. That’s one of the most ridiculous aspects of the cries of “cancel culture”. I didn’t try to cancel it nor did I claim offence. I just made an observation. Their caricature of Rashford is shit. It isn’t good comedy. It’s lazy. That’s all.Look at Boris Johnson's lips and nose. Are they that big in real life? No of course there not. Your just looking for something to be offended by.
I don't like the depiction of Rashford because it makes him look like Purple Aki. Being even handed though, it's better than how Frank Bruno was depicted:The features they choose to exaggerate fit a particular stereotype, and those exaggerated features are not very applicable to Rashford. Southgate’s features are exaggerated, and ridiculous, but they’re applicable to him as an individual not as a stereotype. Do you think that’s just a minor distinction?
Okay so these kinds of thing always over exaggerates facial features. What would you over exaggerate on Macrus Rashford?You never even asked if I was offended. You just made the assumption. That’s one of the most ridiculous aspects of the cries of “cancel culture”. I didn’t try to cancel it nor did I claim offence. I just made an observation. Their caricature of Rashford is shit. It isn’t good comedy. It’s lazy. That’s all.
This is not right. Our Rashford is beautiful.Don't know if this is the right thread for this.
but they made him much darkerThey over exaggerate certain features. Take a look at Southgate's nose. There's nothing racist about it.
Those lips also aren't an exaggerated version of Rashford's, they're just straight out of racial stereotypes.but they made him much darker
is that a ‘feature’ of Marcus Rashford?
saying it might be racist isn't much of a stretch though, is it?The biggest surprise here is that Spitting Image is still going. It was kind of funny 30 years ago but humour has moved on a hell of a lot since then.
That’s a rubbish caricature of Rashford because it looks nothing like him. The skin tone is wrong but that can look different depending which photo you look at. The most obvious error is giving him both lips the same size. He’s actually got quite a thin top lip. So it’s definitely a lazy, poorly done caricature. Like they didn’t even look closely at what he looks like before making the puppet. Accusing them of being racist is a stretch though.
The lack of care is bizarre when you read the article above about how they have to be particularly careful in caricaturing black people. So they do seem to be conscious of the line they’re treading. Hence I’m willing to assume they’re well intentioned.saying it might be racist isn't much of a stretch though, is it?
I mean, if it was your job to draw a cartoon of a black footballer in 2021, you'd think you'd be careful enough with the details to not to give him a fat top lip if he doesn't have one, or make him look darker than most of his photos.. for obvious reasons
I mean, it's the 21st century. We have all kinds of information at our fingertips. There's no excuse for that kind of ignorance anymore. Has this feckwit ever heard of Eazy-E?dababy getting cancelled left right and center. He finally issued an apology but it might be over for him.
He's using freedom of expression as justification because he's a rapper.I mean, it's the 21st century. We have all kinds of information at our fingertips. There's no excuse for that kind of ignorance anymore. Has this feckwit ever heard of Eazy-E?
Maybe because his brain isn't fully developed yet ..Hard to take a man calling himself 'Dababy' seriously.
Never even heard of him until now.Hard to take a man calling himself 'Dababy' seriously.
He should be cancelled for the lack of wit that he demonstrated. Even if you put aside the content of his monologue, the rhythm and vocabulary were extremely poor.dababy getting cancelled left right and center. He finally issued an apology but it might be over for him.
Yep. All these so called rappers these days. Dua Lipa was the first to remove herself from the equation. He collaborated with her for "Levitating" I think. Such bad taste.He should be cancelled for the lack of wit that he demonstrated. Even if you put aside the content of his monologue, the rhythm and vocabulary were extremely poor.
Interestingly that particular attitude is extremely prevalent in that group (American male rappers).He's using freedom of expression as justification because he's a rapper.
Apparently, according to Twitter at least, below was his initial response now deletedHe should be cancelled for the lack of wit that he demonstrated. Even if you put aside the content of his monologue, the rhythm and vocabulary were extremely poor.
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Telling someone to suck your dick is homophobic now?Apparently, according to Twitter at least, below was his initial response now deleted
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Not the sharpest tool in the box.
No doubt Elton will rehabilitate him and duet at some awards like he did with Axl Rose and Eminem.
Sadly, it is. It's so unnecessary though. Most of them are so talented and will still be if they don't adapt that attitude. It partially has to do with what they think will sell records.Interestingly that particular attitude is extremely prevalent in that group (American male rappers).
Think he's trying to make a joke of it.Telling someone to suck your dick is homophobic now?
That’s definitely what he’s doing. I’m struggling to see the homophobia he needs to apologise for though?Think he's trying to make a joke of it.
just incredibleTelling someone to suck your dick is homophobic now?
That's not why they are cancelling him though. I think he said something like, everyone get your camera out except gay people with aids. Or something charming like that.That’s definitely what he’s doing. I’m struggling to see the homophobia he needs to apologise for though?