They were wrong back then, but now they aren't. Chelsea now has history. And even before Abramović, they had far more history than City, such as the Chelsea 90s side with Ruud Gullit as a player and also coach.
Champions League Quarter Finals 2020/21 - Apr 6/7 & 13/14
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Just enjoying the moment until we find out who we beat to be back in the final.
Chelsea may change managers like paper towel but they always seem to get good results and are in the hunt whether its PL or CL. We hang on to 'wannabes' out of nothing but pure nostalgia and reminisce about fergie times.
Chelsea will get knocked out in the semi finals imo. Liverpool and City are the ones that worry me.
On yesterdays game, PSG just about stumble through. Based on the highlights Neymar seemed to be the driving force for PSG but at the same time in the final third he was a bit wasteful - he should have finished that one on one chance, and if not that, passed on the one where Mbappe was in a much better position. There's a cohesion and chemistry that is lacking in their attack for me. And given that play with 4 attackers that shouldn't be the case
On yesterdays game, PSG just about stumble through. Based on the highlights Neymar seemed to be the driving force for PSG but at the same time in the final third he was a bit wasteful - he should have finished that one on one chance, and if not that, passed on the one where Mbappe was in a much better position. There's a cohesion and chemistry that is lacking in their attack for me. And given that play with 4 attackers that shouldn't be the case
Yeah people make fun of their chopping and changing but more often than not they make it work.
Di María was MOTM in my opinion.
I would also say that PSG's football in the first half was pretty good, they passed the ball from the back often incredibly well, getting through Bayern's high pressing, and created a fair amount of truly great chances. It's a collective level that I hadn't witnessed from PSG before.
Really sinks in what football is looking at who Is left.
PSG - qatar
Chelsea - russia
City - uae
Pool, Madrid and Dortmund are the only built teams and im sure most known Madrid's sketchy history.
PSG - qatar
Chelsea - russia
City - uae
Pool, Madrid and Dortmund are the only built teams and im sure most known Madrid's sketchy history.
I think they run the club far more based on 'performance and results' than almost any other club in England. There is little room for sentiment and it works for them. I didn't think Lampard was even doing that bad and his teams seemed to play good co-ordinated football, far more than what I have seen from us. Add on top of the fact he is their club legend but it didn't matter in their setup. You perform or you get shipped out, very binary. I admire that somewhat.
You remind me of an old bloke at the bar who always finds something to rant about.
Please do a 2012 over Madrid haha
he’s not wrong though, in football nothing is less interesting than the past
Chelsea look like a completely different team when Kante starts the game. Tuchel is bringing him back to his best.
It makes as much sense as saying you guys should abandon La Masia and start buying more Suarez's and Griezmanns to get back to the top. Besides, its the usual chelsea envy rant that we get every once in awhile, but usually when we're doing bad. We're two clubs that are run differently and it's a lot more than just hanging onto a single manager.
suarez won us a treble
We missed not only Lewandowski. Süle, Goretzka, Tolisso, Gnabry, Roca and Costa were missing on top.
To think Lewamdowski got injured while playing vs Andorra..
Other than him Bayern missed really a lot of players. Not saying result would have been different if they didn't missed them but it would make a difference.
In an ideal world Dortmund would knock City out and go all the way.
Other than him Bayern missed really a lot of players. Not saying result would have been different if they didn't missed them but it would make a difference.
In an ideal world Dortmund would knock City out and go all the way.
City winning the CL would confirm that the little heritage that existed in football is all but gone and Oil Money is practically what rules the sport now. Them beating UEFA in court when they were practically guilty, FFP sanctions being relaxed and then winning the CL would be a severe hammer blow to football as we know it and we'd see a much bigger rise in State Owned clubs with the more historical clubs becoming phased into irrelevancy. I'll practically loathe every minute of football if they win it.
Not to mention they may possibly even win the treble and that would severely dent Utd's place in the PL/European History Books
Yep, not all Chelsea's signings were terrible either. He was one hell of a cnut though.
That was a lovely display of diving, referee shit housery and time wasting interrupted by 10 minutes of foodball
Horrid referee display. I’m actually more angree than the VAR against Tottenham
Horrid referee display. I’m actually more angree than the VAR against Tottenham
Haha but he was our cnut
Yeah, the commentators were going on about how gripping a contest it was which I disagreed with. PSG never looked in trouble for most parts of the game.
Helps that they always get easier draws.
4 minutes added on. At least 1.5 of which was singlehandedly wasted by Navas taking forever over a goal kick (with the ref warning him) and subsequently "receiving treatment" after a nasty picking-the-ball-up accident. The ref then blows up at about 94:06.
I'm only mentioning it since the only reason PSG are even where they are is because someone gave the club a obscene amount of money, not because they accomplished it themselves on merit. PSG is everything that's wrong with a modern football market.
Sorry but whenever there's mentions of XYZ is what's wrong with modern football, I tune out. PSG has been to semi-finals of the CL before the obscene amounts of money FYI, has had great players, it's a young club but it's got history before the money that people conveniently forget to push their narrative of what's wrong with modern football.
For me, there is no problem, I want to see new clubs coming through from all over Europe, I'm tired of the old guard and that whenever a great player comes along, he has to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona and add to their silverware, or he has to play in England now, it's nonsense and it's gatekeeping success to the old guard which I don't think is ever good for the sport in general. Unfortunately, the only way to break that mold is through money, especially in the French league which generates nowhere near what England or even Spain do, and PSG's got plenty of it. Too bad.
I know some people don't like that they can get some of the best players in the world, added to the fact they're very difficult to take players from, and there's fans who feel entitled to having those players in their league or team, but that's all I really see it as, entitlement.
Funny how some people who don't like 'oil' clubs winning would not mind Real winning it. Can't fathom how anyone outside their fanbase would want Real to win anything , let alone the CL again. For every money spending sin committed in football, Real has to take part of the blame. They are the original sinners. They are also part of what is wrong with football.
That has nothing to do with injured players though. And Bayern are not exactly a poor team that competes in the most honest way, sucking up all the top talent in the Bundesliga, including Lewandowski.
As unpopular as this opinion may be on this forum, the first thing I thought about when I read this tweet is that Ferguson underachieved in Europe
Neh that’s not wildly unpopular at all I’d argue, however it’s a discussion for another thread.
Can't disagree with any of that. Mind you, these historic clubs have had outside investment to get where they are at some point in their history.
7 of them were in the 10 year span between 2004 and 2014. It's crazy to think we were that close so many times, and had the team capable of going all the way, but only won it the one time.
Go and support Chelsea then.
Wait. You're not even a United fan anyway. Just look at your posts.
Surprised it was so tight between Chelsea and Porto.
That last gasp goal in the 1st leg really was important.
That last gasp goal in the 1st leg really was important.
PSG were bought from obscurity. A bit like Manchester City. Fans of the club can be as salty about that as they want, but when they behave the way they do, I'll pop the champagne when they fail to win the French league.
I don’t know if people hate them but they are all that is wrong with a sport which is on its deathbed due to the sustained influence of corruption, greed and sports washing. I probably hate FIFA and UEFA more for letting it happen
I don't know why I thought they were the Portuguese version of Atletico Madrid, but I was surprised by how well they passed the ball about in the middle of the park. Extremely physical, but technically really good team. Horrible to play against, in the good sense.
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What's wrong with Porto?
If Liverpool get through the Madrid tie tonight.....It's been a nightmare past 3-4 years for United fans but I think the icing on the cake of pain would be a City-Liverpool final...
3-1 down but I'd certainly not rule Liverpool out especially with 3 of Madrids first choice back 4 out in Varane, Ramos and Vázquez. Carvajal could have filled in for the latter but he's also out injured.
On another note Klopps home record against Real Madrid is played 3 and won 3. and the last two results was 2-0, 4-1 a repeat of any of those results will send Liverpool through to the semi finals (stranger things have happened)
On another note Klopps home record against Real Madrid is played 3 and won 3. and the last two results was 2-0, 4-1 a repeat of any of those results will send Liverpool through to the semi finals (stranger things have happened)
If that final happens id be the biggest Man City supporter in the world that day, even if they are on for the quadruple or treble.If Liverpool get through the Madrid tie tonight.....It's been a nightmare past 3-4 years for United fans but I think the icing on the cake of pain would be a City-Liverpool final...
Also agreed on the nightmare. How we waste summer after summer when our two biggest rivals dominate world football is an absolute disgrace