From this:
to this:
In the space of couple days...
14
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 24
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 2
- Yellow cards
- 1
Well at least it wasnt me who said it
That injury seems to have affected him greatly. Before he only got tired at the 60-70 mark, now he looks tired from the start of the games.
Playing him against opposition that has runners in midfield means we're effectively playing with 10 men.
The problem is he's not exactly a perfect squad player. He's an option against bottom 10 when we're playing at home.
The problem is he's not exactly a perfect squad player. He's an option against bottom 10 when we're playing at home.
He'll probably be this year's scapegoat.
He will not be a starter so I am not worried
Basically this. I'm not even factoring this fella into our starting team anymore, more like how Mata was used in the past. He's looked cooked since he came back, and with everything he's been through it's not a huge surprise. Hopefully we can get a few positive performances out of him this season, and we don't end up needing to rely on him.
He wont, because he will barely start.
If we're signing Amrabat, he has gone down the pecking order a lot. I assume he will be behind Mount, Amrabat, and Bruno. Maybe even Mainoo if ETH thinks he's ready.
Fin, finito, finalizado!
Ps - I didn't see the match v Madrid, just jumping to conclusions
Ps - I didn't see the match v Madrid, just jumping to conclusions
When he'll start he'll be a scapegoat. Was already one last season.
It's annoying how the word scapegoat is so often used incorrectly on here
Is scapegoat some new cool way of saying "you can't criticise a player when they have poor games"?
No.
Care to elaborate?
Sounds like it is. He was hardly ever a "scapegoat" last season. Was rightly critiqued when his form dropped post injury.
He was criticized early on, long before his form dropped.
He won't be a scapegoat because everyone knows his limitations in terms of physicality. I do think ETH is wrong to keep playing him in midfield two but maybe we just need more options, not sure as he's been adamant about it so far.
He wasn't criticised near as much as he was praised.
He was never a scapegoat that's for sure.
Scapegoat would mean he's being blamed for the mistakes or poor performances of others in the team. Such as its his fault Onana didn't save a shot. Or its his fault Mount missed a sitter. That's not the case. He's rightly being criticised for own own shit performance and his own failures
I think we wont agree on this one. Same with @VP89. Cheers.
Not caught up with the game yet but he’s looked out of shape since he came back from injury. He seemed to age about five years during his absence.
Some people on here want you to never ever criticize any player ever. We must always think they are playing well even if they aren't. Some real ministry of truth stuff on here.
came to post the exacts same thing.
I think you completely nailed that one.
We need to manage him well in order to get the best out of him. To do that, we need to buy another midfielder to play in that deeper area.
When we’re playing the likes of Luton at home, or when we’re in need of some more creativity in a second half, then we’ll see the best of him. But telling him to sit alongside Casemiro against the likes of Liverpool or Arsenal is only going to go one way.
When we’re playing the likes of Luton at home, or when we’re in need of some more creativity in a second half, then we’ll see the best of him. But telling him to sit alongside Casemiro against the likes of Liverpool or Arsenal is only going to go one way.
In honesty his mobility and ability to compete physically have been lacking since he joined us. The effect is much more visible against teams who try to take the game to us. He rarely comes out of any 50/50 as the winner (be keen to see his duel stats)
However, I feel like the games where the opposition sits off us are the games where he really shines.
However, I feel like the games where the opposition sits off us are the games where he really shines.
I find it frustrating that this was obvious as soon as maybe November last year. Just playing and playing and playing him as he was clearly tiring sooner and sooner was a recipe for disaster. He got incrementally more knackered as the season went on, going from being good for 70 to 60 to a half.
There was nothing sage or prescient about pointing it out either as it was clear as day.
Can't say whether the Carroll incident was the death knell, or even whether he's actually further worsened this season as it's too soon, but you wouldn't be surprised. If it is indeed the case, he can't come into games in central midfield. You put players out to pasture on a flank or in AM, not the engine room of your team, so we had better hope it's not the case that he's cooked because he seems more likely to be played in midfield than attack.
Hopefully it's a non-issue and just preseason blues and kinks, or even him playing within himself.
Hopeium, for all your coping strategies.
There was nothing sage or prescient about pointing it out either as it was clear as day.
Can't say whether the Carroll incident was the death knell, or even whether he's actually further worsened this season as it's too soon, but you wouldn't be surprised. If it is indeed the case, he can't come into games in central midfield. You put players out to pasture on a flank or in AM, not the engine room of your team, so we had better hope it's not the case that he's cooked because he seems more likely to be played in midfield than attack.
Hopefully it's a non-issue and just preseason blues and kinks, or even him playing within himself.
Hopeium, for all your coping strategies.
His role will most likely be come on at a later stage when we need a goal or against weak opponents. It is clear that he cannot start games week in week out anymore
He'll be handy in slower paced European games. There are a lot of games this season and Eriksen will definitely have his uses. He was brilliant before the injury last season, and I think he may have been rushed back slightly - we didn't expect to see him back until this season originally.
Not a big deal as it's an issue have partially already addressed and may well address further. As is his isn't in our starting eleven and if we sign someone like Amrabat, the need to play him in tougher games (it was Real Madrid yesterday) decreases even further.
It just highlights why those midfield signings were/are needed.
We can still happily get a lot out of him by using him more selectively.
It just highlights why those midfield signings were/are needed.
We can still happily get a lot out of him by using him more selectively.
He was class at the start of the season. Unfortunately he just got progressively worse as the season wore on, and that accelerated significantly after his injury.
The hope is that this is just a preseason game so isn't a proper representation of what he's capable of, and that by him being only a squad player now he'll be able to keep it up instead of being run into the ground. We won't know for certain for a few months whether that's the case of whether he is actually done at the top level.
I'd only claim ten Hag keeps playing him if he starts the first few league matches.
As for now everyone is getting minutes according to their readiness. I believe we'll see a midfield of Casemiro, Mount and Bruno for the first few games with Eriksen getting 20 minutes if necessary. Amrabat looks likely so Eriksen may see fewer minutes anyway
As for now everyone is getting minutes according to their readiness. I believe we'll see a midfield of Casemiro, Mount and Bruno for the first few games with Eriksen getting 20 minutes if necessary. Amrabat looks likely so Eriksen may see fewer minutes anyway
A problem looming is him being targeted all game by anyone we play. It's an easy method to get at us and have him overwork the little bit of an engine he has left - just run him over and over. Not only will he be spent in half the time, teammates have to cover for him and that invariably leads to holes where they've vacated.
It's quite precarious to play him in midfield if he is really not up for it anymore, even as a sub.
I don't think he was he just had key moments of class within games. We were getting dominated after the first 20-30mins of every game at the start of last sesson. His good moments came within those periods and we basically sat back and struggled to put passes together after.
Its only when Casemiro started playing games from the start that things changed. Our best form of the sesson came with Eriksen out IMO. He did contribute positively to us last sesson and made a difference but I often thought his early form was exaggerated. Going forward he just doesn't have the physicality or speed to play our style or against teams taking the game to us.
I don't think he is good enough anymore. He is physical not up to it at all.
How long is his contract again?
How long is his contract again?
3 years initially, not sure if he has the usual +1 option that we tend to include so right now he is out of contract in 2025. Probably be a squad player this year and then off to Saudi/MLS next summer for a small fee and a big wage.
His long-range passing is an asset, but he has not seemed to do that much since the turn of this year. Without that, it is hard to justify starting him. He is absolutely not reliable for any kind of defense, which is a big issue with the position he plays.
What the feck is going on with this guy? Was close to best player in the league for Spurs. Don't understand how he could have got so bad. Can't even pick out ten yard passes like WTF?!!!!
I mean, he did have a pretty traumatic event happen to him.
It's a miracle he's still even playing football.
Probably, since the caf cant survive without having a scapegoat. Eriksen is one of those players I wish nothing but success. Top lad