City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Ah, cool. "The case will resolve itself" is a very promising choice of language.

Sounds very much like the choice of words to say they are approaching an agreement that is acceptable for all parties.
Almost like a lawyer pleased he’s not going to court and has a nice plea deal close.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

City winning means no one won.
Their titles will be vacated anyways.
On the charges.
it is puzzling why it is taking so long.
They can have a million lawyers.
Any Operating Statement can be easily verified.

It’s less puzzling than this post of 6 random sentences.

 

[Ayoba]

Sounds very much like the choice of words to say they are approaching an agreement that is acceptable for all parties.
Almost like a lawyer pleased he’s not going to court and has a nice plea deal close.

Yup. They're gonna get away with it aren't they, feckers

 

[Guy Incognito]

Near future.

So twelfth of never then. Bloody PL.

 

[WitchWithoutACat]

Near future.

So twelfth of never then. Bloody PL.

I think they mentioned the 32nd of Abujuary.
Sounds promising!

 

[SouthMancRed]

Points deduction just lowers their league position for a season. Relegation just ruins any league they're demoted to and they'd only be away for a short time anyway. Fines mean nothing. Transfer penalties pointless as they've stock piled enough quality for a few seasons. Euro ban? Yep that worked the last time. They've achieved what they set out to do so the only real punishment is having their trophies and titles striped and an asterisk placed in the records but the powers that be are too cowardly to do that so any negotiated censure really will be meaningless. I'm past caring as we all know there'll be no real meaningful punishment.

 

[Zen86]

They’ll announce the ruling at the same time as a new Premier League <> Etihad sponsorship deal

 

[90 + 5min]

Very hard to take the Premier League seriously with them involved.

This is the problem that The FA face. Lot of people are not taking this league seriously anymore. At least not until this is finished. ManCity won treble last year but people just shurgged their shoulder. Instead of giving them tons of credit, there isn't. It is just indifference. It just feels wrong. It just feels artificial. Not giving any decision just puts more and more people off.

Talking about "The case will resolve itself" is just not professional. Why don't we get any transparency.

 

[HTG]

This is the problem that The FA face. Lot of people are not taking this league seriously anymore. At least not until this is finished. ManCity won treble last year but people just shurgged their shoulder. Instead of giving them tons of credit, there isn't. It is just indifference. It just feels wrong. It just feels artificial. Not giving any decision just puts more and more people off.

Talking about "The case will resolve itself" is just not professional. Why don't we get any transparency.

That’s no problem at all, because there aren’t any organised fans who would do anything to threaten their way of doing business. So they’ll just continue. They don’t give a shit wether people care or not. The bottom line is wether the money is right. It is. So they’ll just continue.

 

[Mathew]

Any season where City win is effectively VOID assuming they don't hand titles to 2nd place, personally i would void the season as a reminder of what happened for the last decade or so. So technically for the last 3 seasons (and possibly the current season) were played for no reason at all. It's like all football should of been stopped till these 115 charges were resolved.

The recent comments in parliment by George Galloway were interesting, but maybe a party (that isn't conservative) can start asking questions around limiting foreign government/entities speaking to the current government in power to avoid charges for there personal play things.

 

[The Irish Connection]

This is the problem that The FA face. Lot of people are not taking this league seriously anymore. At least not until this is finished. ManCity won treble last year but people just shurgged their shoulder. Instead of giving them tons of credit, there isn't. It is just indifference. It just feels wrong. It just feels artificial. Not giving any decision just puts more and more people off.

Talking about "The case will resolve itself" is just not professional. Why don't we get any transparency.

Agree.

I just hope after all the waiting/delay they get properly punished.

4 league titles in a row shouldn't happen in the supposed best and most competitive league in the world.

 

[Pexbo]

How many of the EPL directors do we expect to be working for UAE in 5 years?

 

[Garnacho's Shoelaces]

This is the problem that The FA face. Lot of people are not taking this league seriously anymore. At least not until this is finished. ManCity won treble last year but people just shurgged their shoulder. Instead of giving them tons of credit, there isn't. It is just indifference. It just feels wrong. It just feels artificial. Not giving any decision just puts more and more people off.

Talking about "The case will resolve itself" is just not professional. Why don't we get any transparency.

Why is it a problem for the FA when it's the PL involved?

 

[Sunny Jim]

How many of the EPL directors do we expect to be working for UAE in 5 years?

How many EPL are there?

 

[90 + 5min]

Why is it a problem for the FA when it's the PL involved?

My misstake. I've should said Premier League. Thanks for pointing it out.

However, it should also be in TheFA interest for this matter to be solved. Quickly.

Agree.

I just hope after all the waiting/delay they get properly punished.

4 league titles in a row shouldn't happen in the supposed best and most competitive league in the world.

I actually don't have anything against if they win 4 in row. If they are good, they are good. Right now, I feel indifferent about their titles after all those charges. Before they were brought up I could say, well done. They had a plan and did great work getting their team to the top. But now? It just took away all that and until some verdict it is going to be indifference if they win.

For me, question is what happens when everything get decided? Football is going to lose whatever verdict is.

 

[ShoePolish]

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Fascinating, how these sort of meetings get the dates set 5-6 months ahead and I always think it's got nothing to do with bringing all evidence together, as they've had years prior for that, which seemed like hell of a time already.

Probably Celtic Manor was all booked out and they're all to posh for Travelodge.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

The real-life equivalent to 115 Charges’ team of lawyers would be OJ Simpson’s so-called “Dream Team” of lawyers, including Johnnie Cochran and Robert Kardashian. When you’re rich as feck, you can get away with anything.

 

[MrMarcello]

What's to stop the PL clubs holding a vote in say June and they elect to kick them out of the PL with all this stuff hanging out there, lack of cooperation, and delay tactics?

Sure, City would challenge such but do the bylaws allow for such a vote if the clubs elected to do so?

 

[Tincanalley]

They are going to get hammered. You read it here. Probably before the start of next season. Nothing 115 ‘win’ has meaning in the slightest.

 

[Maluco]

This is really taking away my enjoyment of football in general. Something serious needs to be done. So many great moments and fantastic, deserving campaigns and achievements lost.

 

[Buckie]

They are going to get hammered. You read it here. Probably before the start of next season. Nothing 115 ‘win’ has meaning in the slightest.

I hope you are right but I'm not optimistic at all. I expect they will get a fine that will be large but nominal to them and soon after they announce the luxury tax and the removing of financial restrictions.

 

[Sandikan]

Near future.

So twelfth of never then. Bloody PL.

Let's hope "near future" isn't being measured on a scale of the history of the world. Then near future could still mean not in our lifetimes.

 

[Sandikan]

They are going to get hammered. You read it here. Probably before the start of next season. Nothing 115 ‘win’ has meaning in the slightest.

We still all have the hope.
The smart money is probably they manage to swerve the vast majority of the offences based on not being helpful to the investigation, and get some sort of massive fine and possibly 2-3 window transfer ban.
Which like the last time they got the latter, get it swiftly reduced.

It's very difficult to see really hard punishments like relegation(s) as we've simply not seen it before.

 

[OleGunnar20]

It’s less puzzling than this post of 6 random sentences.

Is it a haiku?
Perhaps a stroke of genius?
Nah, probably shite.

 

[Greyfog]

This is the problem that The FA face. Lot of people are not taking this league seriously anymore. At least not until this is finished. ManCity won treble last year but people just shurgged their shoulder. Instead of giving them tons of credit, there isn't. It is just indifference. It just feels wrong. It just feels artificial. Not giving any decision just puts more and more people off.

Talking about "The case will resolve itself" is just not professional. Why don't we get any transparency.

Sorry, who are these people that are not taking the league seriously? Clubs? Players and coaches? Sponsors? TV media? Fans of Liverpool, Arsenal and United?

For the guys that say "their titles don't mean anything or is hollow or nobody cares". Do you guys think that professional footballers, coaches feel the same way.
Trent did say that their titles mean more to them than City's and mentioned finances as possibly why. But I don't really get that feeling from other footballers and coaches who always heap praises on them.

City have won the best club of the year two years running presented by UEFA, a body that charged you for irregularities still recognised you as the best in world knowing fully well the cheating is what got them there.

I don't know but given how much it is repeated on the internet. Do you guys even believe it when you say it or it's copium

 

[Withnail]

City winning means no one won.
Their titles will be vacated anyways.
On the charges.
it is puzzling why it is taking so long.
They can have a million lawyers.
Any Operating Statement can be easily verified.

Doesn't rhyme. 6/10

 

[90 + 5min]

Sorry, who are these people that are not taking the league seriously? Clubs? Players and coaches? Sponsors? TV media? Fans of Liverpool, Arsenal and United?

For the guys that say "their titles don't mean anything or is hollow or nobody cares". Do you guys think that professional footballers, coaches feel the same way.
Trent did say that their titles mean more to them than City's and mentioned finances as possibly why. But I don't really get that feeling from other footballers and coaches who always heap praises on them.

City have won the best club of the year two years running presented by UEFA, a body that charged you for irregularities still recognised you as the best in world knowing fully well the cheating is what got them there.

I don't know but given how much it is repeated on the internet. Do you guys even believe it when you say it or it's copium

I know lot of people around that have lost interest because of that and VAR. Also how football has developed. I guess there are others to. It isn’t something strange.

Players and managers are never going to not take football serious. At least shouldn’t. For them titles should mean everthing.

I don’t think anyone can say they are bad team. I’m saying that as long as this thing hangs over their head there will always be questions. And lot of people would be indifferent to them winning before we know everything. If we ever get that transparency.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

They’ll announce the ruling at the same time as a new Premier League <> Etihad sponsorship deal

Isn't it already the Etihad FA Cup?

 

[Freak]

I don't think the English FA has the balls to do anything to them. Also, the referees are probably in their pockets as well.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Isn't it already the Etihad FA Cup?

Emirates?

 

[Pexbo]

I don't think the English FA has the balls to do anything to them. Also, the referees are probably in their pockets as well.

Probably? They are literally publicly on their payroll.

 

[Pughnichi]

So apparently we’re close to a conclusion…and yet there’s barely any media coverage.

you can almost guarantee if it was us…or Liverpool, or anyone else for that matter it would at least make some of the football news pages

 

[Flying high]

So apparently we’re close to a conclusion…and yet there’s barely any media coverage.

you can almost guarantee if it was us…or Liverpool, or anyone else for that matter it would at least make some of the football news pages

Once they've been prosecuted I expect we'll go a flurry of stories from media people about how they've been threatened with legal action had they spoken out. It's been said by a few that 115s lawyers are very active in shutting things down and until they've been proven to be guilty I can understand, to some extent, why they'd not want to get themselves caught up in it.

Similar for the broadcasters. Unless you're certain of the outcome, its easier to just pretend everything is fine.

 

[Taribo's Gap]

So apparently we’re close to a conclusion…and yet there’s barely any media coverage.

you can almost guarantee if it was us…or Liverpool, or anyone else for that matter it would at least make some of the football news pages

I don't think it's close to a conclusion. He just vaguely said a hearing will be sometime in the near future. It will still take some time after the hearing to render a judgment. I'm not sure what exactly people want the media to be covering. There's been no material information about this situation released for like a year and this vague update about a hearing in the "near future" is already all over the news.

 

[Pughnichi]

I don't think it's close to a conclusion. He just vaguely said a hearing will be sometime in the near future. It will still take some time after the hearing to render a judgment. I'm not sure what exactly people want the media to be covering. There's been no material information about this situation released for like a year and this vague update about a hearing in the "near future" is already all over the news.

That’s never stopped media before. Christ they go on and on about transfers and deal progression months in advance.

i just think it’s kind of a big deal so we’d expect more journos to at least cover it. More so after a vague update when often stories are just fabricated.

I’d agree with an earlier poster who suggested lawyers are shutting stories down. That can be the only explanation

 

[Taribo's Gap]

That’s never stopped media before. Christ they go on and on about transfers and deal progression months in advance.

i just think it’s kind of a big deal so we’d expect more journos to at least cover it. More so after a vague update when often stories are just fabricated.

I’d agree with an earlier poster who suggested lawyers are shutting stories down. That can be the only explanation

With transfers there will be leaks and protracted negotiations and posturing through the press (aka "developments") from agents and clubs. Exactly what other developments should they be covering here? There are already articles everywhere about this little crumble of information.

 

[Thunderhead]

As has also been pointed out on this page, which you'll conveniently ignore, organic growth is absolutely possible.

It is possible but you'll probably win nowt

Only way is a transfer and salary cap which I don't think any of the old g14 clubs would ever be in favour of, the Champions League expansion has distorted every major League in Europe, it's all fecking shit and there is no way of bolting that door now, no matter how many charges city are guilty of (which will be most) there is no way of leveling the playing field and that started with the G14's greed, as soon as money becomes involved in sporting events you can guarantee people will look to exploit that, we're basically Frankenstein's monster created by the g14 clubs greed who wanted a close shop

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

They are going to get hammered. You read it here. Probably before the start of next season. Nothing 115 ‘win’ has meaning in the slightest.

I agree, you don't bring all these charges without the intention of following it through, and the way they've treated Everton and Forest must be sending some sort of message of what it coming.

As a minimum I'd like to see relegation to league 2, then starting the next 5 seasons on -20 points, and a big fine that counts towards FFP.

Or ideally all their trophies taken away for the set period, relegation, and a 20 point deduction for the next 5 seasons.

 

[roonster09]

Only way is a transfer and salary cap

Only for City players to have amazing properties in middle East. Who even trusts City.

 

[LordSpud]

They are going to get hammered. You read it here. Probably before the start of next season. Nothing 115 ‘win’ has meaning in the slightest.

Not a chance.