Maybe some people are being giddy but for me personally I just feel like it's the safest option to ensure that the club I support stays competitive for the years to come so out of all the bad options, state seems to be the "safest". All those US consortiums or Ratcliffe seems like a lottery to me with us having absolutely no idea what we would get. However I feel it's likely we would end up with another version of the Glazers which I don't know for how long more this club would be able to handle it as we have already been milked hard by current parasites. I don't know how can you 100% say that "Ratcliffe will without a question put in money" because there is a good chance that he will not. What then?
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Yeah, because Americans don't torture people.
In fairness the women’s team would probably be happy to get likely pay increase and better facilities comparable to what City have.
My issue is more that a lot of people are actively delighted about it and desperate for it so we can sign Mbappe, it's completely reasonable for people to reluctantly make their peace with the outcome. Particularly for fans from Manchester, the club is so close to them and part of the community that I can imagine it would be incredibly painful and a huge change to their lives to stop following United although I know that following the team means so much to millions of people around the world.
To be honest, as someone who lives in London and gets to maybe 10 games a season, my feeling is that I want no part of it (it's morally gross and any success would be uninteresting and soulless) and so right now my thinking is I would probably walk away but I don't know if I would genuinely stop following United fully if it comes to pass. Any party with £5bn+ to spend is probably going to be a cnut but there are still levels of cuntiness. It's just people on here jizzing themselves about it that is kind of grim.
I agree with you about Musk though, don't need a bozo like that running the club.
I have no idea about Nice's finances but if you are trying to cleverly suggest Ineos shareholders wouldn't mind him giving away billions of their money to United for nothing you're bonkers.
Embarrassing stuff. Did Biden or the US government own United?
Is the Federal Government bidding?
Yes. The Glazers are a front for Biden. Anyone can see it.
Just need the Apple rumors to resurface now, and they could probably afford to outbid QIA
They never would though. The motivations aren’t the same.
Ineos have taken no share dividends from OGS Nice, but have given the club interest free loans after the takeover.
Time to change the title of this thread, I guess. | Qatari bid imminent. Ratcliffe to be BTFO.
I'm not wearing a towell on my head to Old Trafford on Sunday, tell you that much.
Surely a title change is needed?
Also, I wonder if one of the re-constructible stadiums from the WC, will be brought over to help with using it as the youth stadium/ladies stadium?!
Also, I wonder if one of the re-constructible stadiums from the WC, will be brought over to help with using it as the youth stadium/ladies stadium?!
True...
Musk or Bezos could afford it if they want to, otherwise welcome our new Qatari overlords.
Quarterly friendlies vs PSG in Doha?
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You said he would definitely take money out.
I'm asking a reasonable question. As you said. You've no idea
Who said I wanted oil money?!
Regarding Nice and INEOS a few things need to be said. Nice have fairly new stadium, training ground and academy which were financed years ago and aren't an area that INEOS would have to spend on and Nice was sold for around 100m.
So ignoring the fact that INEOS football management has been subpar, the purchase of Nice is in nearly no way similar to the purchase of United. There is no comparison to make and no information about the way INEOS may or may not invest in United. It's like comparing the purchase of a small brand new house with the purchase of an historic building that needs refurbishing.
Oh dear, I thought you were trying to be cute. Sincere apologies.
Glazer era finally over
This, of course, sounds very tempting.
But I'm still not sure I want this. We've spoken badly about clubs owned this way, and now we're into it ourselves.
And also, probably most people want to compete without these money, but is it even possible?!?
Shame Elon is a bit of whackjob. Tesla would look great on our shirt. New state of the art stadium sponsored by Tesla too would be pretty cool.
He just seems too much like a psycho though sadly. We'd probably be better off under the parasites than him. Hahaha
He just seems too much like a psycho though sadly. We'd probably be better off under the parasites than him. Hahaha
You don't have to take money out of an investment to get a return on an investment. Capital appreciation is a concept shareholders are not unaware of.
Look at the amount of money the Glazers took out of the club per year, then compare it to the amount of money they have made through the asset appreciating in value, then count how many years it would take for INEOS pay off the cost of buying the club by leeching that money out of the club, then take a look at their annual income as it stands. At that point it should be clear why taking money out of the club isn't going to be a pressing concern for any stakeholder involved.
I'd prefer the SpaceX logo if it's Elon Musk.
But he's a bit out of it, would rather Bezos or ideally Apple if possible.
How’s city’s women’s team?
Bezos is buying the Washington Nationals, get your own crazy Billionaire
So you don’t know if he will or not. Thanks.
Or PSG
Some of the best womens players don't seem to mind playing for the likes of City and PSG at all, they invest heavily in their womens teams.
Something that can't exactly be said for United
All the ones saying about budget, this is not City, we generate our own money. The difference would be having owners who do not take millions out of the club. They will let us spend what we are allowed to and hopefully, that will be the big point, on the right players. The ones worrying about the women's team. This is an English club and they will make sure the women have the best facilities and are paid fairly compared to the other teams. What we have to hope down the line is being involved strongly in other countries and how they live their lives will make them relax their views on women's roles in their own country and also see that the LGBT community enrichen lives not threaten a way of life.
Steady. Worth noting that Qatar have not actually submitted a bid (at least not yet). Indeed we don't in fact have confirmation of any interested parties, aside from Ratcliffe. At this moment, it is very much 'paper talk' (and, from the Glazers' perspective, highly-convenient paper talk at that). We should hear next week who actually put in offers in advance of Friday's deadline and whether the Glazers are minded to accept any of them. Don't get too excited, there is still the possibility for massive, crushing disappointment here!Glazer era finally over
With Musk:
-we would have total control of Twitter
-better ties with Russia and Rich oil states
-first PL game in space
-VIPs like Putin and MBS attending our
games
-we would have total control of Twitter
-better ties with Russia and Rich oil states
-first PL game in space
-VIPs like Putin and MBS attending our
games
If Qatar want the club then there is not a great deal anybody else can do. Definitely not Jim Ratcliffe.
The Bloomberg news should lead to a title change
Yea that's BBC and Bloomberg now both confirming an imminent Qatari bid
That's not correct. The Qataris may (or may not) want it, but assuming that they do, there is the question of how much they want it and whether they are willing to meet whatever valuation Joel and Avram have decided is "enough". Unless you think that there will be no other bidders, they also won't have a clear run at it - Ratcliffe might not be willing to go over £4bn, but it's possible that there will be bidders from the US and/or Saudi Arabia who are.
We've been told that, if the Glazers just spend our own revenue on the club, then we'll be fine. So surely INEOS could do that? Nobody is buying us to make a profit anymore. We're simply not worth investing £5b+ for £20m per year dividend. Waste of time.
I'm afraid it is.
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