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Is there anything reliable that has spurred this sudden confidence in Qatar? Had a look but just seems like people randomly getting excited out of nowhere and I haven't seen any sources for the excitement yet.
 

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Is there anything reliable that has spurred this sudden confidence in Qatar? Had a look but just seems like people randomly getting excited out of nowhere and I haven't seen any sources for the excitement yet.
There's literally nothing. Just a few romano accounts, spewing shit, and making numerous spelling errors. Bless em. :lol:
 

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I really believe that's the case. The people who want Qatar are dreaming that we will start next season with Mbappe,Neymar and god knows who else.
Why does this narrative keep getting pushed that everyone who wants Qatar automatically only cares about signing Mbappe and other shiny new toys?
 

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Didn't ETH say that the takeover wouldn’t affect transfer business ? I’m sure I read that somewhere although I could be wrong.
Are you familiar with “no value on the market” phrase from certain MU manger?
 

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If as is looking likely that it is Qatar who will be named the new owners then the thing I'm looking forward to the most is actually for the first time in almost two decades is the club being debt free, that is the most important thing about this takeover, becoming debt free.
Don’t get too far ahead of yourself just yet. I very much doubt we are going from where we are now to straightaway announcing new owners - unless other negotiations are taking place behind the scenes. That’s why there’s some doubt over naming a preferred bidder. If they name SJ as preferred, for instance, and Ineos then walk away, the Glazer’s lose all of their remaining negotiating strength.
 

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I agree. If anything SJ has got his priorities right. Clear the debt and invest in the infrastructure. We don’t need hundreds of extra millions invested in the squad, which we can’t really unless you follow the City model. We make enough money to be hugely competitive in the transfer market, as has been shown over even the Glazer’s time, especially if you give the money to people that know what they are doing. I would have liked Ineos to have made the same commitments, but the way in which they are re-structuring their bids, suggests to me, they are at the limit of their budget.
I just hope if he gets it he indeed clears the debt. This is not a Chelsea like take over process with government involvement and Roman insisting on clauses which would be best for Chelsea.
Jassim could as well say he will clear it in a few years or something and not immediately.
Regarding infrastructure he may as well prefer investing in his own property projects around OT first than in our stadium and training facilities.
I am just saying that just because some journalists claimed that Qatar would do this and that, or just because Qatar included it in their bidding offers without it having any relevance to the actual bidding process, doesn’t mean that they will do exactly that.
People will claim reputation to lose and whatever, but people also claimed they would blow the competition away with their bids. Also Qatar do enough evil stuff where their reputation hardly seems to bother them.
 

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I think the vast majority of pro Qatar fans want the same. It’s easy to sneer and paint us all as immature imbeciles that just want shiny new signings though. It’s the same with pretty much any debate of difference of opinion these days unfortunately. People feel better and more secure in their own opinion if they can paint the alternative view as somehow lacking or not getting it. That mixed with a lot of sanctimony as someone else pointed out.
Pro Qatar too long-standing season ticket holder, home and away this nonsense that it’s all Twitter people and not on the terraces who want Qatar is nonsense.

Source people at the games it’s a clear mix.

Old Trafford is in dire need of modernisation when you go to the emirates and spurs new stadium in the flesh, it’s straight up embarrassing the facilities for “the biggest club”

I don’t see this happening anywhere near the accelerated pace we need under Sir Jim.
 

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Pro Qatar too long-standing season ticket holder, home and away this nonsense that it’s all Twitter people and not on the terraces who want Qatar is nonsense.

Source people at the games it’s a clear mix.

Old Trafford is in dire need of modernisation when you go to the emirates and spurs new stadium in the flesh, it’s straight up embarrassing the facilities for “the biggest club”

I don’t see this happening anywhere near the accelerated pace we need under Sir Jim.
Yeah, I have over a dozen family members who are all long standing season ticket holders and they all want Jassim due to two things -

1. His commitment to buy the club properly and immediately remove the Glazers.

2. His willingness to state publicly his intention to invest heavily in the infrastructure of the club and the surrounding area.

These are also the reasons why I myself would prefer Jassim.

This silly notion that some pro-Ratcliffe posters are putting forward that it’s due to ‘wanting Neymar’ etc is fecking ridiculous and growing quite tiresome tbh.
 

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Is this guy reliable? I see he works for Talksport.
If you were to guess that Qatar would win at any point in this process you'd more than likely have been right for the simple reasons that:

a) The Qataris have way more money that SJR
b) They are more reckless with how they spend it
c) Sportwashing factor makes the club more valuable to them than to SJR

So predicting they were going to win it has always been far more likely than unlikely, muppetry notwithstanding.
 

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Yeah, I have over a dozen family members who are all long standing season ticket holders and they all want Jassim due to two things -

1. His commitment to buy the club properly and immediately remove the Glazers.

2. His willingness to state publicly his intention to invest heavily in the infrastructure of the club and the surrounding area.

These are also the reasons why I myself would prefer Jassim.

This silly notion that some pro-Ratcliffe posters are putting forward that it’s due to ‘wanting Neymar’ etc is fecking ridiculous and growing quite tiresome tbh.
None of them are bothered by the fact that we don't actually know who may manage the club? If you look at Ratcliffe we at least know that he will have the expertise of JC Blanc.
 

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I really don´t care about super star signings. The only reason I support the Qatar bid is that we get rid of the Glazers, we get rid of the debt and we can start redevelop infrastructure (stadium, training facilities) and so on. The Ronaldo interview really hit me. Didn't know it was THIS bad. I just feel with SJR it would continue like today. IF the Qatar will win, I would say that Ronaldos second stay is one of the most important signings ever. He really got this sale going. I´m not saying it wouldn´t have happened anyway but this really speeded things up.
 

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Probably not the best way to get people listening, but Stone of the BBC still saying nothings happening
 

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I've just got "the market knows first" stuck in my head

I have very limited stock market knowledge but I know stock prices often spike before news of an impending takeover/agreement breaks

I have the feeling our first sign will be a stock spike before we hear of any agreement with either party
All I can base it on is my personal experience and opinion. I don't know any more than anyone else regarding this process and nothing I say should be taken as advice. It's just my two cents based on anecdotes.

I work in Risk & Compliance for an institutional investor. I have seen plenty of these deals cross my desk, and I cannot say I have ever noticed anything like that. Not to say that it has never happened before or that it is impossible, but this notion that illegal activity takes place on the majority of these takeovers is not in line with what I have seen.

I have tracked the stock price out of interest just based on my interest in United and my line of work. In my view, throughout this process, the stock price has been reactionary to whatever the press and social media are saying. Whether it is uncertainty about the timeline rises or pro-Ratcliffe/pro-Jassim reports coming out, the action on the share price has followed these reports.

I do not believe these swings have ever reflected any actual changes to the true likelihood of the final outcome. I am convinced the Glazers have wanted to sell to the Qataris since Day 1, and everything in between has just been a means for them to get the Qatari bid to the level they wanted. I am firmly of the opinion that Qatar is going to win this and we are going to find out from an official announcement. They do not seem to have allowed the press to get near them and feed Mike Keegan some info here and there when there is something they want the public to know.
 

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Read the thread title. Don't post dodgy tweets. It's not hard.
He’s normally wrong and takes a punt on most united things however share price now on the up at $19.98 so he may have something ?
 

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All I can base it on is my personal experience and opinion. I don't know any more than anyone else regarding this process and nothing I say should be taken as advice. It's just my two cents based on anecdotes.

I work in Risk & Compliance for an institutional investor. I have seen plenty of these deals cross my desk, and I cannot say I have ever noticed anything like that. Not to say that it has never happened before or that it is impossible, but this notion that illegal activity takes place on the majority of these takeovers is not in line with what I have seen.

I have tracked the stock price out of interest just based on my interest in United and my line of work. In my view, throughout this process, the stock price has been reactionary to whatever the press and social media are saying. Whether it is uncertainty about the timeline rises or pro-Ratcliffe/pro-Jassim reports coming out, the action on the share price has followed these reports.

I do not believe these swings have ever reflected any actual changes to the true likelihood of the final outcome. I am convinced the Glazers have wanted to sell to the Qataris since Day 1, and everything in between has just been a means for them to get the Qatari bid to the level they wanted. I am firmly of the opinion that Qatar is going to win this and we are going to find out from an official announcement. They do not seem to have allowed the press to get near them and feed Mike Keegan some info here and there when there is something they want the public to know.


I agree. They just react on rumours, at the moment, it's Qatar. Last couple of weeks it's been Ratcliffe in the news.
 

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If the, rumoured, 4 Glazer’s that want out can persuade the other 2 to sell - then there’s a good chance of a deal. The Ineos deal just seems too messy and fraught with risk imo. Not really siding with anyone, have a slight preference for SJ, that’s all - but my take is that it’s heading in his direction, as a full sale is the only thing that makes sense to me.
 

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I want Qatar because they're the best option for renovating the stadium and improving infrastructure. If they try to cook the books and cheat in the transfer market like Abu Dhabi have at City though that will be extremely disappointing and I would hope we as a fanbase would protest against that.
 

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I want Qatar because they're the best option for renovating the stadium and improving infrastructure. If they try to cook the books and cheat in the transfer market like Abu Dhabi have at City though that will be extremely disappointing and I would hope we as a fanbase would protest against that.
They won't need to cook books
 

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Probably not the best way to get people listening, but Stone of the BBC still saying nothings happening
Think you have misunderstood, there’s obviously ‘something happening’, there’s a darn sale negotiation process for Manchester United ongoing! He specifically referenced Al-Khalaifi and said all parties insist nothing’s happening, being that Al-Khalaifi is not involved.
 

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None of them are bothered by the fact that we don't actually know who may manage the club? If you look at Ratcliffe we at least know that he will have the expertise of JC Blanc.
Ultimately, they all prefer Jassim - all my family in Manchester who support Utd do.

And my family members in Manchester / Stockport who support City all want Ratcliffe and the Glazers at Utd (as does literally every oppo if you check around online).
 

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When you write drivel like this, do you actually believe this is how I think?
I can’t be sure about you personally, but I am sure that 99% of people against the Qatari takeover have never given a second thought to human rights abuses in the country outside of when it’s been shoved in their face because of football.
 
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