Don't think there will be any sports events after next week at this rate.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
People will get some of the best holidays of their lives this year. Hotspots without the crowds would be superb. Shame we are expecting.
It's a difficult thing to weigh up, I'm not necessarily for closing the grounds, nor against it. They aren't decisions I would like to have to make. I was just pointing out that it is daft to say it will have no effect at all.
If closing one ground could stop say just 1 new case, that multiplied across every stadium in the UK, at all levels, and across other sports and other large 'social' gatherings, could be saving hundreds of cases every week.
That will slow down the spread, and will help the NHS massively.
Obviously full lock down will do much more, but that doesn't seem proportionate to the UK's situation at this stage.
The cost to the clubs etc also has to be weighed up, it isn't just the sport element, but the business element, the people that work at these clubs etc etc
It appears the UK knows it's coming, it's inevitable I'd say, but the UK is also aware that getting out the message that practising regular 20 second hand washing, being smart about not touching your face until you've washed is gonna be a lot more productive in slowing down the spread than simply cancelling some football matches.
Roma team arent allowed to fly to their Europa league game in Sevilla. Getafe refusing to play against inter in theirs.
Europa league must be done
Europa league must be done
Agree.
Going to ban holiday travel eventually I assume.
I would think after the weekend if we even get that far there will be an announcement by UEFA/FIFA
Madrid accounts for nearly half of Spain's cases. It's a concern we have Atletico fans and next week Real fans coming to the UK. Atletico have 2800 here for tonight's games.
Spain has over 2100 cases and 48 deaths with huge spikes in cases over the few days.
Spain has over 2100 cases and 48 deaths with huge spikes in cases over the few days.
It would have to end null and void at this point cos even with such a big points gap the scousers are always likely to slip up and blow it.
Just pack from a weekend in Paris, cheap as you will ever get it and the places like Versailles and the Lourve where largely empty.
More teams should be making the call themselves with the European matches as it is so obviously not going to carry on after this week anyway.
Sadly I think mass hysteria will win out though judging by this thread and other news outlets, the pressure to cancel all sporting events will become so great that even though the government are aware that it will have so little effect they will do it anyway.
By May we will see that it had little effect in stopping the speed and spread of the disease but we’ll have done it anyway due to public hysteria.
I think itll be suspended and then played behind closed doors when we have a handle on it. Maybe have the end of this season tacked on to the beginning of next. Maybe cancel the domestic cups to make room.
Imagine winning the title and starting again midweek
Cant believe theres people that actually think cancelling mass gatherings like football matches wont have an effect on the spread of this
It sucks but it should be suspended. Next season should restart the same as this season. All teams where they were at the beginning of this season in all competitions.
When are we due to travel if we haven't already?
The PL will either stop it now and postpone it to the summer (Euros moved to next year) or they will wait until Liverpool wins behind closed doors and then to call it off.
I think the first case is more likely due to CL places and relegation still not solved.
I think the first case is more likely due to CL places and relegation still not solved.
Agree with you. This is the last week of European football matches. That I am sure
Mass Hysteria = World Health Organisation advice
Has there ever by the way been a case of flu spreading like wildfire due to a football match or other sporting event? We should literally have tonnes of examples it that was the case so it’s no surprise scientists are saying that there’s not proof cancelling these events help.
So many other much closer interactions are made with millions of people every day.
So many other much closer interactions are made with millions of people every day.
It’s getting proper out of hand now. Only viable solution left is to cancel the football season and declare it null & void. Delay the euros till next year.
Again, if your risk appetite is not even allow 1 new case of COVID-19 in a stadium of 30,000 people, you would literally never open the stadium ever. There are bigger risks each and every week.
We've all but publicly accepted the disease is going to spread. We just want to make it as manageable as possible for the healthcare system over a longer period of time. (See image below).
The measures currently taken are focussed on reducing the chance of a big spike in cases, not to limit the total amount of cases.
If Liverpool don't win it due to Covid-19 then I can say with confidence they'll never lift the premier league trophy. It is cursed for them.
Seriously @Smores? Because I'm absolutely unaware of that.Mass Hysteria = World Health Organisation advice
As I say, I've posted a couple of scientific opinions on it here already.
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United issue statement on coronavirus
United issue statement on coronavirus
Just hope City beats Burnley over the weekend and Liverpool draw/lose against Everton.
That's if it doesn't all get cancelled by Friday evening.
That's if it doesn't all get cancelled by Friday evening.
I can see them doing something silly for next season like a points handicap system if it does get cancelled.
We already there I believe.
Well exactly. Which is why it blows my mind that people are using analogies like keeping the tube or postal service running as somehow relevant in a discussion about whether or not it's worth the public health risk of continuing to allow fans to attend football matches.
It can't, the Europa League should be awarded to Manchester United. I'll take a *2020
We don't have a relatively unknown virus with a high mortality rate romping across the world every week though do we?Again, if your risk appetite is not even allow 1 new case of COVID-19 in a stadium of 30,000 people, you would literally never open the stadium ever. There are bigger risks each and every week.
We've all but publicly accepted the disease is going to spread. We just want to make it as manageable as possible for the healthcare system over a longer period of time. (See image below).
The measures currently taken are focussed on reducing the chance of a big spike in cases, not to limit the total amount of cases.
Given the UK only has ~400 cases, potentially stopping hundreds of extra cases every week is quite clearly statistically significant.
Your second point actually supports closing of stadiums. Any act that slows the spread, will help the NHS which was my point in the first place.
Well there's absolutely no evidence anywhere that closing stadiums stops or slows the spread. And we've had stadiums and viruses for a long time for them to find a link.
feck sake.
You don't think sport and people attending sport has massive benefits to society, the economy, the mental wellbeing of the individual etc?
Suspending the Premier League is just such a no-brainer. All the other radical measures have potential serious downsides. Close the schools? Immediately force up to 40% of the workforce out of the workplace (including doctors, nurses etc.) Travel restrictions? Citizens might get stranded overseas. And so on. The downside to not allowing fans attend PL football matches is so trivial it's barely worth discussing.
Absolutely, same here
I don't think attending PL football matches has any kind of "massive benefit" at all, no.
I wouldn't like to see football as a sport completely shut down though. PL clubs should be able to cope with the loss of income from finishing the season out behind closed doors. It gets trickier for teams in lower divisions so there's a balance to be struck. You don't want to force dozens of clubs into administration if you can help it.
Any act that slows the spread is not in itself an act worth taking. There is a cost and there are disbenefits to everything. This is the point we were making to @Pogue Mahone. The difference in the R rate between:
- people living their normal lives (working, travelling, socialising, educating etc) + subjecting the population to public health best practice + attending 'low risk' football matches
- people living their normal lives (working, travelling, socialising, educating etc) + subjecting the population to public health best practice + closing all 'low risk' football matches