It's a sector just like others which generates a feckload of money and job opportunities though, so in that regard it needs to be treated as every other sector, i.e. re-opening as soon as it's possible, or as soon as the risk becomes acceptable.
It's more important than school? Judicial system? Non corona health services?
Footballers, yes - but what about all the people whose job is related to the industry and are now sitting at home without one? They probably can't all last "a while".
Thing is, education is continuing right now, under the guise of "online" lessons. Learning, without being surrounding by all the other students at packed school, has started. Surely football, without being surrounded by fans at packed stadiums, is possible now?
I'm not sure that all sectors carry equal importance (whether measured on economic output or overall societal good). That is not to say that football should be dismissed - the livelihoods of many ordinary people are undoubtedly dependent on getting football going again. Unfortunately, many millions of peoples' livelihoods are also dependent on finding a way to transition sectors like education, construction, retail and hospitality, back to something like normal operation. Sadly, some of them are likely to be heavily curtailed, at least until 2021 - this is just the harsh reality of the situation we find ourselves in. Whether or not football can be saved from the same fate that is likely to befall the bars and restaurants of this country, is too soon to say.
That type of comment in bold is exactly why this theory came about in the first place, that type of put down of the game I only ever use to hear from people who openly dispised it, now we're hearing it (and reguarly) from actual football fans.
I think it was Carlo Ancelotti who said that "football is the most important of the unimportant things". That's probably about right. It's great fun and we all love it, but we have larger concerns at the moment and there's nothing contradictory about acknowledging that fact.
Making a good case there for people on here claiming that it isn't about Liverpool but about "more important things in society" or something.
Indeed but to read some of the shite spouted in this thread you wouldn’t think so.
I'll certainly be tuning in to watch the Bundesliga games, if they proceed in a few weeks' time. I'll do the same whenever the Premier League eventually returns, even though football in this country (if/when it starts up again) will likely now be behind closed doors at least until the 2021/22 season.
Some of us watch the game to enjoy football, not just have it as an excuse to socialise, so basically you just admitted football is just a socialising tool for you.
That wasn't the point of my message, I'm not siding with either side. I would be willing to give the clubs the benefit of the doubt in this instance, in thinking they truly don't believe there is any integrity to the competition as it is being discussed in project restart (or whatever other stupid name it has), rather than the league, whose motives seem clearly financial, though it is only my opinion and I may be wrong.
I expect money is playing a big part, and also likely the government is pushing for resume as well for morale reasons.
Right now is big no. For various reason. I say that we should cancel and start planing for next season (september) how we should make it work. I think that there is lot more negative then positive in playing football now.
First players if you want to save clubs. That is when clubs are in economic problems. I agree that players are minority but if I could guess I would say that they are getting at least 3/4 of money paid to employees despite minority.
How does home advantage work in an empty stadium?
Does a supermarket close when a member of staff test's positive?
We had this discussion in the betting thread before this whole thing unfolded. For what it's worth, even non league teams have a home advantage of roughly 0.2 goals (up to 0.4 in the Premier League). This is not entirely comparable as in lower leagues there are other factors such as pitch conditions or away teams arriving late for midweek games because they work regular jobs during the day so it will be interesting to see how the Bundesliga games will be priced up. Home advantage is definitely diminshed in an empty stadium but still existent.
No, but it probably should for a day or 2 until everything that worker may have touched is disenfected
Understatement of the century
You can't live without food, you can live without football
That was not the question though.
Tough luck, it's still the answer
Yeah it's the little things like knowing the pitch dimensions (a few players have mentioned in interviews they're just more confident hitting long range passes at home as they can mentally visualise the pitch better) and also having the home dressing room.
The only way I think would be to not air the games live and not announce the schedule then fans don't crowd round the stadium's.
The only reason it makes big money is because it is a popular sport and does keep millions occupied. The facts of life. Sorry if the answer did not suit you.
It is a popular sport and keeps millions occupied when there are live games you can go watch in the stadiums, pubs etc. What we are doing now, is taking all the emotion out of the game, no fans, no celebrations. The only reason they want the league finished is purely money related.
I'm not sure what that has to do with not wanting to further spread a deadly virus that has killed over 30k UK citizens in the space of 2 months. People can keep occupied in otherways that doesn't risk spreading it further, thats a fact of life.
I didn‘t tell any truth or lies, I just referred to the Kicker-article in which they (Kicker) equate the recommendation with „Maulkorb“ — a muzzle:
I get that there is no emotions in the stadium, and that does suck.
Get off the stage. If they had 38 points as opposed to 29 their stance would be completely different.
Yes, I get the alot of fans watch it at home, we all want football back so we can have something else to talk about.
DFL:
1. Teams before this situation were able to have home advantage as they had full stadiums. Clubs now won't have that.
Yeah, for example if BCD happened in the late 80s/early 90s Wimbledon playing at Plough Lane would still have a huge advantage despite no crowd.
The thing is, does teams and players and playing staff cares anymore? The league is virtually over for 17 teams with nothing to play for.
Would that even give the team an advantage going into next season?
Think thats he actually meant.
Would the league not have to vote on that decision? So the teams near the bottom would vote it down out of solidarity for one another.
