Dumbstar
We got another woman hater here.
Should get a t-shond of them.
Feck me he's a human being. Hope you can aspire to be one day.
Should get a t-shond of them.
Boggles my mind listening to some of you - it's as if the world is over, all doom and gloom and that we won't get back to opening the economy (football being a big part of that) soon (by july).
You know we won't have around 1k people dying every day right? At some point it has to taper off. Also, great news coming out of Spain suggesting mid may they will have their curve completely flattened (around 30 deaths a day). At which point I don't see why they can't start football in early June.
"Even 30" people dying a day is serious.Boggles my mind listening to some of you - it's as if the world is over, all doom and gloom and that we won't get back to opening the economy (football being a big part of that) soon (by july).
You know we won't have around 1k people dying every day right? At some point it has to taper off. Also, great news coming out of Spain suggesting mid may they will have their curve completely flattened (around 30 deaths a day). At which point I don't see why they can't start football in early June.
What do you think the reason will be for it flattening and tapering off?
No doubt it's social distancing, but when it flattens (for the most part completely). It'll be safe enough for the economy to open up again. It'll be done in phases.
"Even 30" people dying a day is serious.
And what do you think will happen social distancing stops?
The cases are not going to skyrocket to peak deaths, that's for sure.
Oh right. Cheers Dr Ronaldo’s Mum Eh?
So what do we suggest we do? Stay locked inside until there are no cases for a year?
Looks like given the leaks in the press today, premier league and government are talking and latest "plan" will be to restart training from middle of May and take things from there. Mass testing on squads, journalists who cover BCD games, neutral venues possibly, you know the drill by now.
Not possible according to most people here.. who suggest there's 0% chance we get back to real regular life and life as we know it is over.
no one is going to refund season tickets. You are being ridiculous on purpose. Over the next 14 months, you are only going to be able to play a certain no. of games - and it’s much preferable to play out an entire season for the sake of 8 games.
prize money will clearly be distributed pro rata.
I value lives over Football funnily enough. If it means no sport for a year so be it.
That’s why the word curtail has been used. No need for paragraphs of explanation.how can you distribute prize money pro rata in the result of a void?
Null and void means just that.
There are 3 options, all of which create problems but they are as follows.
1. Finish the season when it is safe to do.
Yes there will be issues with contracts, but it seems like there is little that can be done about this. In this scenario no team can complain about the final table and relegation and promotion not being fair. Prize money will be paid out in full.
2. Don't complete the season, all league places will be based on the most recent league table. Focus on getting ready for the next season.
This is problematic because obviously some teams would benefit and suffer when they might not have deserved to. Would likely cause lawsuits from the relegated teams and teams that weren't promoted. Prize money could be paid out, but again teams would complain that they could have finished higher and earned more money. Part refunds of season tickets may also need to be paid out in this scenario.
3. Null and void the season.
In this scenario you are essentially saying let's go back to the summer of 2019.
No promotions or relegation from the current season would stand. No prize money would be paid out. Season tickets and match tickets would be null and void so would be open to full refunds. TV money would not be paid out. Lawsuits from teams that have been denied promotion or were on course to receive huge prize money.
Some people are completely underestimating the legality of voiding a season.
Why do you think people like Karen Brady have done a complete U turn on voiding the season?
There is no such thing as a part null and void it doesn't exist!
No doubt it's social distancing, but when it flattens (for the most part completely). It'll be safe enough for the economy to open up again. It'll be done in phases.
Are you on drugs or what ? You keep spouting this shit about us being on a downward trend yet I can't see that at the moment. It is always In this thread as well so you are either a Liverpool fan longing for the season to restart or you are some sort of lunatic.Why would it be next year when I just showed you that things are not as bad as they say they are supposed to be and that we are on the downward trend?
what about the lower league teams who can not afford to keep these players - as unlike the super rich PL don’t have any money. They will need to release 6-12 first team squad players (as they do every year) as they can’t afford to keep them in order to finish the season.
If then they are forced to finish the season, you will have hundreds of out of contract players without clubs and clubs playing a bunch of kids. It will be utter madness.
just for a minute think about teams other than Liverpool
Are you on drugs or what ? You keep spouting this shit about us being on a downward trend yet I can't see that at the moment. It is always In this thread as well so you are either a Liverpool fan longing for the season to restart or you are some sort of lunatic.
And how can't you understand that by opening up stuff and doing non essential activities like football can mess with those "projections". As it is based on a certain set of lockdown requirements to be enforced. Just because there will be no deaths in July, doesn't mean there will be no cases at all, and that's if the current lockdown parameters are kept till the end of the projections, but any change to that and it can be very different. You get to June or even July and the 2nd or 3rd wave hits and its all back again trying to get it from spreading further.Like I said, it was from the highly respected IHME.
Here is the link - https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-kingdom
No, I live in Canada. Much of our situation is based off the current epicenter which is in the US and their death estimates have dropped from 100-200k to 60k.
So he signed up when he was... 5?I think it's a youngster. So we have to be kind and go easy on them
Boggles my mind listening to some of you - it's as if the world is over, all doom and gloom and that we won't get back to opening the economy (football being a big part of that) soon (by july).
You know we won't have around 1k people dying every day right? At some point it has to taper off. Also, great news coming out of Spain suggesting mid may they will have their curve completely flattened (around 30 deaths a day). At which point I don't see why they can't start football in early June.
Maybe you shouldn't be on a football forum then, not to mention this thread..Just stop dude. Feck me, how is it "great news", its flipping 1 month of deaths between now and mid may, but its great news! Get a grip. There are people dying in the thousands everyday and all you can jam about is getting football back. Yay, happy, great. Geez, bug the right off and have some decency.
There are many others, even Liverpool supporters that really want the season to be resumed, but are not as half as callous as you are.
Oh right. Cheers Dr Ronaldo’s Mum Eh?
You are right there but Football will be one the last things to get going again, I don't think we're going to see normality until the end of the year and that's hoping this fecker of virus doesn't rock up for round two.
Are you on drugs or what ? You keep spouting this shit about us being on a downward trend yet I can't see that at the moment. It is always In this thread as well so you are either a Liverpool fan longing for the season to restart or you are some sort of lunatic.
Just stop dude. Feck me, how is it "great news", its flipping 1 month of deaths between now and mid may, but its great news! Get a grip. There are people dying in the thousands everyday and all you can jam about is getting football back. Yay, happy, great. Geez, bug the right off and have some decency.
There are many others, even Liverpool supporters that really want the season to be resumed, but are not as half as callous as you are.
I'm more than able to be here, to discuss football, but when someone blatantly says its great news when its not really great at all, because he's sole point is getting football back, and blindly ignoring the many points other's including myself have made, then I'm going to call it out. I've been well able to separate the 2 matters, and he should be able to not talk so callously about "only 30" deaths as if its fine. It's not. I can talk about football and still be respectful of the seriousness of what's happening.Maybe you shouldn't be on a football forum then, not to mention this thread..
I think we need to stop humouring him. He doesn’t seem to have either the most basic understanding of the situation or an ounce of empathy for those suffering.
So mass testing for squads and journalists while the NHS workers get shafted everyday. My wife (NHS Doctor) had symptoms for 12 days (fever, cough, fatigue) and she couldn't get tested because her condition wasn't serious. The situation on the ground regarding tests is very different to what the government is saying. If they can do 100k tests a day, then fair enough but if there aren't enough tests for key workers then testing squads shouldn't be allowed.Looks like given the leaks in the press today, premier league and government are talking and latest "plan" will be to restart training from middle of May and take things from there. Mass testing on squads, journalists who cover BCD games, neutral venues possibly, you know the drill by now.
As someone who has been passive following this thread for quite a while, Ronaldo's Mum's posts are extremely strange. I've not even seen that sort of desperation for the league to restart from the Liverpool fans as he/she shows. I've long accepted Liverpool will win the title and I don't care either way if the season is voided or cancelled and current positions declared final but the total lack of empathy that fellow has shown is staggering. Even as someone not from any of the 4 countries so badly affected, it's horrifying to read on a daily basis of all the deaths and yet you've got people who can just be so callous about it. It's really sad to read.
It's great news that spain isn't suffering as much as they were before. Thousands are not dying anymore in Spain. It's reducing everyday and like I said by mid may they should have very low death counts a day. That's great news.
Stop trying to spin my message.
Boggles my mind listening to some of you - it's as if the world is over, all doom and gloom and that we won't get back to opening the economy (football being a big part of that) soon (by july).
You know we won't have around 1k people dying every day right? At some point it has to taper off. Also, great news coming out of Spain suggesting mid may they will have their curve completely flattened (around 30 deaths a day). At which point I don't see why they can't start football in early June.
Yeah, I wrote my last say on the matter with him. Even have better chances of discussing it rationally with some Liverpool supporters on here. Emphasis on some though.I think we need to stop humouring him. He doesn’t seem to have either the most basic understanding of the situation or an ounce of empathy for those suffering.
This is what I'm saying. Plenty of folk have come on here with different opinions and we can engage, but the way he presents it just grates everyone up the arse. It's not even his point, others have put it forward, I think its how he puts it across.As someone who has been passive following this thread for quite a while, Ronaldo's Mum's posts are extremely strange. I've not even seen that sort of desperation for the league to restart from the Liverpool fans as he/she shows. I've long accepted Liverpool will win the title and I don't care either way if the season is voided or cancelled and current positions declared final but the total lack of empathy that fellow has shown is staggering. Even as someone not from any of the 4 countries so badly affected, it's horrifying to read on a daily basis of all the deaths and yet you've got people who can just be so callous about it. It's really sad to read.
I think we need to stop humouring him. He doesn’t seem to have either the most basic understanding of the situation or an ounce of empathy for those suffering.
The cases are not going to skyrocket to peak deaths, that's for sure.
I agree that Kante's not suited to possession football, and that's a pretty huge limitation considering most larger sides have more of the ball in 95% of their games. If a player only finds himself useful in 5% of the games throughout the season, I personally wouldn't rate him so high. A true top player should be versatile enough to adopt in different roles and perform in different tactical setups, Kante doesn't fall into that category imo.I agree with your point regarding this season, couldn't disagree more regarding his prior season's.
He made Drinkwater and Matic (after his legs went) look good.
The issue with him is that he's not suited to possession football, that's why I can't confidently say he's past his best like I can with most cases of players performance dipping strongly.
I disagree, I think football will be part of the driving force to get the economy back up again. It'll be a great feel good story to get people's morales up again. Lots of people are feeling down right now and football being back will be a huge lift!