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An absolute battering for India with Australia taking just 11 overs to reach their target of 118
 

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Pakistan still have a ban on the IPL too right? Sad state of affairs. I had to google it for background.
In terms of broadcasting? The IPL is being broadcast by Geo Super and TapMad in Pakistan this season I think. Previous years as well it's been shown by cable providers.

If you mean in terms of players being available, I'm sure Pakistan would allow their players to play it they were allowed to be selected.
 

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Come on you Royals!! Although the English players are spread more evenly now. Hope Punjab do well with Curran and Livingstone too.

Wondering how Bairstow does post injury, and obviously Brook is intriguing! I like the look of Delhi at 13/2 (Nortje Ngidi Marsh are exciting) as they could really turn it on. Not sure who I'm backing yet; I'll probably be a glory seeker!

In terms of broadcasting? The IPL is being broadcast by Geo Super and TapMad in Pakistan this season I think. Previous years as well it's been shown by cable providers.

If you mean in terms of players being available, I'm sure Pakistan would allow their players to play it they were allowed to be selected.
Kinda crazy how sport can't cut through it all and the teams are self policing an unofficial ban.
 

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I'm not working today so I'm going to watch the opening game of IPL today. Who are the favourites to win this again? I know CSK are the most successful franchise overall but they had a core group of senior players in the 2010s who played for years together. I looked at their squad page and 41 year old MS Dhoni is still captain which took me by surprise.
 

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I'm not working today so I'm going to watch the opening game of IPL today. Who are the favourites to win this again? I know CSK are the most successful franchise overall but they had a core group of senior players in the 2010s who played for years together. I looked at their squad page and 41 year old MS Dhoni is still captain which took me by surprise.
So this is how Cricinfo thinks they'll line up today:

Chennai Super Kings
Possible bat-first XI
: 1 Ruturaj Gaikwad, 2 Devon Conway, 3 Ben Stokes, 4 Moeen Ali, 5 Ambati Rayudu, 6 Ravindra Jadeja, 7 Shivam Dube, 8 MS Dhoni (capt, wk), 9 Mitchell Santner, 10 Deepak Chahar, 11 Simarjeet Singh/Tushar Deshpande

The batting is stacked (and I agree with Stokes at 3 or 4) but the bowling looks super-weak. There are Hundred sides with stronger bowling attacks than that.
 

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Don't think Pakistan players will be featuring anytime soon. There's even been reports this week that they will play their ODI World Cup games in Bangladesh instead. And India won't go to Pakistan for the Asia Cup, so they'll be playing their matches elsewhere too.

Madness really when you think how that could impact a tournament, might not know which country the final is in until a couple of days before.
 

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Can kind of see Chennai's logic though tbh.

Home-and-away fixtures are back this year, so they'll be playing half their games in Chennai, which is the biggest turner in India. Hence they've packed their side with finger spinners (finger spin better than wrist spin on turning pitches as it's more accurate).

Plus they've got arguably the two best fielders in the world in Stokes and Jadeja, and you'd imagine they'll be in the slog positions off the spinners (when Jadeja's not bowling himself). So the spin tactic becomes even more effective.

If they win most of their home games they'll be in the play-offs and they've got loads of big-game experience in the team, which might see them over the line in clutch situations.

Will be interesting to see how it pans out though!
 

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Can kind of see Chennai's logic though tbh.

Home-and-away fixtures are back this year, so they'll be playing half their games in Chennai, which is the biggest turner in India. Hence they've packed their side with finger spinners (finger spin better than wrist spin on turning pitches as it's more accurate).

Plus they've got arguably the two best fielders in the world in Stokes and Jadeja, and you'd imagine they'll be in the slog positions off the spinners (when Jadeja's not bowling himself). So the spin tactic becomes even more effective.

If they win most of their home games they'll be in the play-offs and they've got loads of big-game experience in the team, which might see them over the line in clutch situations.

Will be interesting to see how it pans out though!
Stokes knee is fecked. He won't be running about at long on.
 

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I do worry about Stokes. I know he just wants to play but surely a Bairstow like approach would have been smarter. Unless his knee is actually so fecked that he knows he won't be bowling again anyway.
 

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I do worry about Stokes. I know he just wants to play but surely a Bairstow like approach would have been smarter. Unless his knee is actually so fecked that he knows he won't be bowling again anyway.
He has sacked off the ODIs in fairness so he is getting a bit of rest there. He's pretty much just playing Tests for England and IPL for money.
 

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I have been keeping half an eye on this and wanted to post something in here once I had properly read through the various things that I have noticed but I’ll just share my basic observations so far.

The absence of Dewald Brevis in the South Africa squad for the T20s in England was interesting. Absolutely a player you think South Africa would look at ahead of the T20 World Cup. Turns out he was in England in July, playing for a Mumbai development squad. He’s conveniently been picked up since by MI Cape Town as an uncapped player. Is he the first young player whose career will essentially be dictated by a franchise?

The UAE T20 league which allows up to 9 overseas players and is expected to run parallel to the Big Bash has been causing some tension. It’s been suggested David Warner and Cricket Australia had to negotiate a deal to keep him in the Big Bash. Trent Boult has also terminated his central contract with New Zealand and signed up to this league.

It’s been suggested FTP schedule allows a 2 and half month window for the IPL. If I was to sketch out a calendar for player playing nothing but T20/franchise cricket:

Aug - Sept - CPL
Nov - Dec - Abu Dhabi T10
Dec - Feb - LPL, BBL, UAE ILT20/CSA T20, BPL
Feb - March - PSL
Apr-June - IPL
May - July - T20 Blast
August - the Hundred

That’s a pretty ridiculous schedule. Looking at someone like Will Smeed, a product of the first-class system who hasn’t played a single first-class game but has already played in the Hundred, the PSL and has been selected for the UAE ILT20, it’s extremely foolish to view the franchise circuit as an arena for specialists only however. It’s fast-tracking and directing the careers of young talent too now.

Looking at the calendar and the overlap of so many leagues with an increasing number of common owners it’s not hard to envision wall-to-wall franchise cricket with franchise brands bound together across the globe and players contracted specifically to those franchises. 50-over cricket will surely die and I imagine test cricket will eventually be exclusive to the boards who can afford to run it (imagine how sad it will be to see the West Indies not play test cricket). The game should be focused on sustainability, playing top cricket with healthy players in a way everyone can access whether it be on TV or going to a ground and spreading money fairly to ensure the long term development of the game across the world. Instead the game will be driven by greed.
It’s going exactly how I expected it would.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ntracts-full-time-ipl-deals-cricket-ns2mhpp3f

At least six English players have been approached by IPL franchise owners about full-time T20 deals that could be worth as much as £5 million a year
 

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It's determined by the market though, right? Money is flowing towards T20 so that's where the players are going too.

Cricket has been wrapped in an existential crisis since the sport was invented, so maybe we should be happy they've hit upon a commercially successful format?

Plus the players want to keep playing test cricket, at least for now. The franchises can't force them to give that up, just as the Premier League clubs can't force the players to give up international football.
 

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It's determined by the market though, right? Money is flowing towards T20 so that's where the players are going too.

Cricket has been wrapped in an existential crisis since the sport was invented, so maybe we should be happy they've hit upon a commercially successful format?

Plus the players want to keep playing test cricket, at least for now. The franchises can't force them to give that up, just as the Premier League clubs can't force the players to give up international football.
It’s good cricket makes money and top players get their worth but I think we’re sleep walking into the Big 3 being the only test playing nations because those are the only series that make administrators money.

The focus should be on the game being sustainable and balanced. I think everyone’s currently more pre-occupied with how much more money they can make when there’s already plenty in it. We’re on the cusp on losing the uniqueness of the game for greed.
 

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Finally seeing some proper cricket between India & Australia. What a difference a pitch makes.
Yeah I mean India having to leave out the best spinner in the world makes this "proper cricket" and a good pitch. Bullshit.
 

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Should really be a 3 match series to decide the winner, rather than a one-off game.
 

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Yeah I mean India having to leave out the best spinner in the world makes this "proper cricket" and a good pitch. Bullshit.
Bollocks, India still have a world class spinner in the side, now we’re seeing what their pace bowlers can do and it makes for much more watchable cricket.
 

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Apparently they have a 2nd pitch prepared in case of a Just Stop Oil protest :lol: Interesting to see if they do that for the rest of the summer!
 

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Great first morning. There are runs out there, but there’s enough out there for the pace bowlers to keep them interested. India bowling a little too inconsistent but they will also feel unfortunate not have got a couple more wickets. Warner & Labuschagne batted excellently, all be it with some new bruising. Great stuff.
 

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Good test match cricket right now,

Although as an Aussie still not sure why India did not pick Ashwin, If it seams it spins and he is the best spinner in the world.
 

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smith getting a 50 from 150 balls, what a scrub.