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shamans

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Rashford is a pressing-monster compared to Ronny:

Numbers from EPL this season:
Pressings per 90 / successfull pressings per 90 / pressings in the attacking 3rd per 90

Ronaldo: 6,28 pressings per 90 (lowest in the league for attacking players with more than 450 minutes) / 1,69 successfull pressing per 90 (lowest in the league for attacking players with more than 450 minutes) / 2,84 pressings in the final 3rd per 90 (lowest in the league for attacking players with more than 450 minutes)

Rashford: 14,48 pressings per 90 / 4,48 successfull pressings per 90 / 6,12 pressings in the attacking 3rd per 90.
These stats are all meaningless and only count pressing when you rush onto the ball, not blocking lanes.

Lingard does the most of this sort of pressing but it's not always the best sort.
 

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Sell him if true. We ain't winning anything anyway and he wont be here next season in my opinion.

Ronaldo has sadly just caused more problems than he's solved. He might finish the season with a reasonable tally but if none of the other forwards do then it's been for nothing.
I don't think we can find any realistic buyer considering his age, form and wages. The only option is he'll walk on a free. But even on a free imo it's still very hard to find a club that can and is willing to pay his wages. We're stuck with him unless he takes a big paycut and accept playing for a smaller club or the MLS. Which is very unlikely given his gigantic ego.

It's a very difficult and complicated situation imo. But I do hope our board can support Ralf to bench anyone he think he should. Ronaldo is obviously the total opposite of Ralf's football and management style.
 

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If you put in decent balls then Ronaldo is going to score. Forget about his running to press. If everyone does the press he doesn't have to do a lot of running. The problem is people expect him to run like a headless chicken. He is not going to do it and neither is he capable of doing it. Look at the Wolves game. If AWB has not over hit his two crosses Ronaldo probably would have scored those two. If Sancho had passed it to him, he probably would have scored too. Football is the sum of the players and not each playing individually. Defenders are not going to leave Ronaldo alone. He also creates space for others. Blaming him for the faults of other players is irresponsible.
Should he play every game? Of course not. He needs to be rested too and I do not think he would cause a fuss if he gets rested too.
What about the chances he's missed ?

I remember the chance he missed against Norwich, people here blamed Rashford for the pass.

It's the other players fault for not finding Ronaldo, It's the other players fault for not giving the right pass to Ronaldo. But it's never Ronaldo's fault.

He's took 57 shot so far in the league, he's scored 6 non penalty goals. :rolleyes:
 

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Going with some sarcasm on these….

These stats are all meaningless and only count pressing when you rush onto the ball, not blocking lanes.

Lingard does the most of this sort of pressing but it's not always the best sort.
Ok. Thank you! Meaningless then and just coincidental that Ronaldo’s pressingnumbers are the lowest around. No need to press and give the opponent little time on the ball when you want to play with high press and win the ball back quickly after you lost it, just blocking passing lines is enough. Noted.
Well coordinated collective pressing directly after losing the ball is so overrated and gives you so little time to moan about your teammates losing the ball….

If you put in decent balls then Ronaldo is going to score. Forget about his running to press. If everyone does the press he doesn't have to do a lot of running. The problem is people expect him to run like a headless chicken. He is not going to do it and neither is he capable of doing it. Look at the Wolves game. If AWB has not over hit his two crosses Ronaldo probably would have scored those two. If Sancho had passed it to him, he probably would have scored too. Football is the sum of the players and not each playing individually. Defenders are not going to leave Ronaldo alone. He also creates space for others. Blaming him for the faults of other players is irresponsible.
Should he play every game? Of course not. He needs to be rested too and I do not think he would cause a fuss if he gets rested too.
He has scored on every 9th shot so far this season so he would most definitely 100% probably score on those three chances that never was against Wolves if he just had better teammates.

We’ve just been playing wonderful football with Ronaldo up front this season, so long may it continue.
 

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What about the chances he's missed ?

I remember the chance he missed against Norwich, people here blamed Rashford for the pass.

It's the other players fault for not finding Ronaldo, It's the other players fault for not giving the right pass to Ronaldo. But it's never Ronaldo's fault.

He's took 57 shot so far in the league, he's scored 6 non penalty goals. :rolleyes:
Think it's blatantly obvious his return hasn't been a positive one. Every other player around him has gone backwards from last season. Says it all.
 

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I don't think we can find any realistic buyer considering his age, form and wages. The only option is he'll walk on a free. But even on a free imo it's still very hard to find a club that can and is willing to pay his wages. We're stuck with him unless he takes a big paycut and accept playing for a smaller club or the MLS. Which is very unlikely given his gigantic ego.

It's a very difficult and complicated situation imo. But I do hope our board can support Ralf to bench anyone he think he should. Ronaldo is obviously the total opposite of Ralf's football and management style.
Why wouldn’t clubs line up for him? Isn’t every great team built around 36/37 year olds with high demands to their teammates?
 

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Watching people squirm over this man is entertaining. I remember when we were joking about Dirk Kuyt being a defensive striker, now it’s the only way to be.
Ffs, as if a forward can only be one extreme or the other. Ridiculous statement.
 

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I don't think we can find any realistic buyer considering his age, form and wages. The only option is he'll walk on a free. But even on a free imo it's still very hard to find a club that can and is willing to pay his wages. We're stuck with him unless he takes a big paycut and accept playing for a smaller club or the MLS. Which is very unlikely given his gigantic ego.

It's a very difficult and complicated situation imo. But I do hope our board can support Ralf to bench anyone he think he should. Ronaldo is obviously the total opposite of Ralf's football and management style.
I agree. Nobody should be bigger than the manager. Ferguson used to say that repeatedly.
 

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Going with some sarcasm on these….


Ok. Thank you! Meaningless then and just coincidental that Ronaldo’s pressingnumbers are the lowest around. No need to press and give the opponent little time on the ball when you want to play with high press and win the ball back quickly after you lost it, just blocking passing lines is enough. Noted.
Well coordinated collective pressing directly after losing the ball is so overrated and gives you so little time to moan about your teammates losing the ball….
My first instincts were that it had to be sarcasm, too, because it's hard to fathom something that risible being written. But then again, you never know with some of his fanboys :lol:
 

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Going with some sarcasm on these….


Ok. Thank you! Meaningless then and just coincidental that Ronaldo’s pressingnumbers are the lowest around. No need to press and give the opponent little time on the ball when you want to play with high press and win the ball back quickly after you lost it, just blocking passing lines is enough. Noted.
Well coordinated collective pressing directly after losing the ball is so overrated and gives you so little time to moan about your teammates losing the ball….


He has scored on every 9th shot so far this season so he would most definitely 100% probably score on those three chances that never was against Wolves if he just had better teammates.

We’ve just been playing wonderful football with Ronaldo up front this season, so long may it continue.

As I said these stats only measure one type of pressing and folks who have never been on a football pitch get all excited about it. There''s more to pressing than storming the defender.
 

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Great player and hasn't done too badly but choosing Ronaldo over buying a young central midfielder in the summer is a perfect illustration of where the people who runs this club's priorities lie.
We already had an aging striker in Cavani so adding another one was not a good idea. Personally would be glad if this is his final season with us.
 

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Ffs, as if a forward can only be one extreme or the other. Ridiculous statement.
The only thing that's ridiculous is thinking there's only one way to play football. And that this man is the root of our problems.
 

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Think it's blatantly obvious his return hasn't been a positive one. Every other player around him has gone backwards from last season. Says it all.
Correlation isn’t the same as causation. If we played like Bayern do you think Ronaldo would score goals like Lewandowski? Or would Lewandowski score goals for us?

Ronaldo has his issues as does any player but at this point in his career he should be a penalty box poacher. One of the reasons I feared him going to City was the amount of goals he would scored from inside the box with their passing and crossing. We simply don’t make those chances. The chances he has missed for us have largely been on through balls where his touch or pace have let him down a bit.

As for his conversion rate; we’ll be takes way too many shots and often from bad places but he has basically always done that and is part of having Ronaldo.
 

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disgusting.:rolleyes:

No respect or gratitude to a club legend. You wouldn't see Liverpool fans treating their club legends in such ways. They still sing poems about Rafa FFS
 

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disgusting.:rolleyes:

No respect or gratitude to a club legend. You wouldn't see Liverpool fans treating their club legends in such ways. They still sing poems about Rafa FFS
No point getting upset about trolls.
 

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disgusting.:rolleyes:

No respect or gratitude to a club legend. You wouldn't see Liverpool fans treating their club legends in such ways. They still sing poems about Rafa FFS
That is embarrassing. The people who think Ronaldo is the problem have no clue at all.
 

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disgusting.:rolleyes:

No respect or gratitude to a club legend. You wouldn't see Liverpool fans treating their club legends in such ways. They still sing poems about Rafa FFS
seems like a simple joke, man, relax..
 

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We truly have some shte fans.
Probably the ones giving it loads about his signing in the summer.
 

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It’ll be interesting to see how we do without him, especially for those that say he has a negative impact on the team.
 

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When you have so many fans, it is likely that you will see a lot of awful fans.

If he isn't right then he shouldn't play. He knows his body well. We should be able to beat Villa tonight and hopefully have him back for the game at Villa Park.
 

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disgusting.:rolleyes:

No respect or gratitude to a club legend. You wouldn't see Liverpool fans treating their club legends in such ways. They still sing poems about Rafa FFS
Do yourself a favour and never use Twitter as a barometer for actual fan sentiment.

Or anything really.
 

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What about the chances he's missed ?

I remember the chance he missed against Norwich, people here blamed Rashford for the pass.

It's the other players fault for not finding Ronaldo, It's the other players fault for not giving the right pass to Ronaldo. But it's never Ronaldo's fault.

He's took 57 shot so far in the league, he's scored 6 non penalty goals. :rolleyes:
Most of the pro-Ronnie arguments these days seem to be either hypothetical, irrelevant or about his past, like how many goals he would've scored in a different team, how he definitely would've scored a chance that either didn't happen or another attacker missed, how fast he collects the ball for a throw-in or that he has to play and never be criticized too much because it says Ronaldo on the back of his shirt.
 

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100% would've scored a goal in the first half, where there was some service.

He'd probably poach the save from Greenwood's shot where Rashford stopped trying too.
 

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So Ronaldo is the problem in this team right?! :rolleyes: Yeah right!

maybe time to get off the lads back and stop scapegoating him.

atleast he cares about the club even if he's shouting at team mates like Rashford it's because they deserve it and letting standards drop. Need that fire and if the other players had his passion we would be willing every week.
 

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So Ronaldo is the problem in this team right?! :rolleyes: Yeah right!

maybe time to get off the lads back and stop scapegoating him.

atleast he cares about the club even if he's shouting at team mates like Rashford it's because they deserve it and letting standards drop. Need that fire and if the other players had his passion we would be willing every week.
Nah. Kick him out then no problem. Next is the manager to go. Rinse and repeat.
 

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At least we have some kind of fear factor when his name is on the team line up. Cant see what other player any team would be worried about,
Except you don't have any fear factor. That why Wolves and other teams were all over you.

Ronaldo is a net neutral for you. He genuinely doesn't make the team any worse but he doesn't make it much if any better either.
 

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Ronaldo’s fault today. Thought his lack of pressing was evident while everyone buzzed around the place. Him not getting involved in the build up play really messed up our passing patterns too.

Oh wait…
 

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He's a problem in the team, not the problem. But pointing out that he's a problem doesn't mean the likes of Rashford offer a solution either.

All for dropping Ronaldo to improve the overall team level but that would involve actually having an idea that will work better. Unless/until we swap Cavani & Martial for a top class CF I certainly don't know what that better-working idea is. Because they all look pretty poor atm.
 

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Ronaldo’s fault today. Thought his lack of pressing was evident while everyone buzzed around the place. Him not getting involved in the build up play really messed up our passing patterns too.

Oh wait…
His attitude and body language affect the confidence of other players on the pitch as well.

Oh wait....
 
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