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Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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Morata would be the better choice because if it doesn't work out you'll always be able to sell him back to Juventus for 30M before At Madrid buys him again for 45M 2 weeks later.
Why would Llorente want to come to United?
People are forgetting, we are a mess right now. The laughing stock of World football.
For now, we are stuck with trying to pick up players that no one wants - see Rabiot and Icardi.
Really good player, but seems quite happy in Madrid. I don't mind the Rabiot deal if we get FDJ alongside him. Think they could complement each other.
With Ronaldo, who knows what to do. On one hand, you need trouble-makers out of the team. But on the other side, who replaces those 24 goals? Imagine Suprs sold Kane last season. Not a chance they would be in the CL now, so I think sometimes it's worth trying to keep quality players (assuming Ronaldo isn't a hugely disruptive force).
I don’t think juve have ever bought Morata despite him playing 4 seasons there
you must be a our DOF.
Wait to see who i'm about to sign.... A bargain deal too !
Sell him and someone please email Richard not to afraid of selling Ronaldo. Remind him, commercial is last. If the manager thinks he should go then let him go.
I really hope the rumors are true and the powers that be are backing the boss to sell him.
No that’s not what I’m saying or trying to imply at all. I’ve always maintained that things are more nuanced than the average fan would like to acknowledge. Most seem to think that Ronaldo leaving would magically solve all our problems which is obviously untrue. I do think he can definitely affect the team in a way that isn’t always ideal (him being the focal point and all balls going to him). This current United side and this version of him is definitely a bad fit which is why I’ve maintained that a departure would be best for both parties.
But I really don’t think his playstyle is a principle reason we’re like we are. I mean look at us against Brighton without him on the pitch.
I just think there’s something fundamentally wrong at the club that starts all the way from the boardroom.
I’d be very surprised if we were to terminate his contract due to the revenue he generates I think we only signed him because of the City rumours obviously he can still do it at this level even in a dire squad like ours!
It probably is the correct decision to sell or terminate if he is wanting out or causing issues for ETH.
It probably is the correct decision to sell or terminate if he is wanting out or causing issues for ETH.
Fair enough! I appreciate that you see him as not inherently toxic and that there is no intention to it. I wouldn't really argue against that and understand that these players have shown a collective lack of many things, including mental strength. I do think though that we generally obsess too much with mental strength and character and all that, I see them as traits that can be dictated by the environment to a very high degree. De Bruyne is "weak" in a mentally "weak" team with Belgium. Yet he is a fighter and takes a major part in one of the most successful teams in PL history. You can say the same about your Gerrards, Lampards, Beckhams and that whole English generation. I'd go as far as say that City team has very few players that could be classified as strong characters outside of that City environment. We have players that won things you don't win if you are mentally weak.
Our problem for me is a complete lack of cohesion, a mishmash of talents and attributes that just does not fit together and a lax comfortable culture from the top with how they handle managerial and directorial roles which allows for issues to fester and add up which leads to paper over the crack solutions stream of decisions. When you have this level of incoherence and a lack of direction, you are fragile and very vulnerable so it's easier to be affected by things like a bad defeat, a bad run, or a disruptive presence like Ronaldo. You need a strong foundation to allow for a winning culture and strong mentality to develop. People like Ronaldo are not the norm, he is literally one of the greatest players in the history of the game, he is not normal, his mentality is not normal. Yet teams have been very successful and currently are without any abnormal one off mentality monsters. They build a collective mentality through working in the same direction and trusting the foundation they build. You need however very strong leadership in one way or another. City have Pep, Liverpool have Klopp, Real have their name and their president, Chelsea had Abramovic which is why it's very curious which direction they will go now. Bayern have their famous board and legends running the show. We simply have no one. No one is running this club the way every successful club had someone clearly in charge.
I can't think of any top team outside PSG and maybe maybe Real Madrid but that comes with an asterisk, that don't play with 10 runners, and I mean players who will press their heart out. Ronaldo can't do that. I honestly thought that his only possible option in the elite is these two but Perez was brutal last week and PSG have apparently stopped the gravy train this summer. I thought they wouldn't be able to resist the marketing goldmine of Messi and Ronaldo in the same team but I was wrong. In short, it's really difficult to see a top coach indulging a player to the level Ronaldo would require in today's game.
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Interested to know on what grounds we would terminate his contract? Ronaldo and his team would need to agree to this, otherwise United will be paying out the remainder of it. £35mil, I believe.
If he is a free agent, then what? Who is going to take him and his £500k a week salary?
He is effectively a free agent now because every club knows they could put in a measly bid for him and have a good chance of United accepting.
Personally, i think the best option for him would be to take a salary cut and go back to Sporting. He could play in the CL, im sure he would score a ton of goals in the Portuguese league and it would be a fitting way to end a great career.
He deserves better than finishing his club career with United, in the state we are in right now.
If he is a free agent, then what? Who is going to take him and his £500k a week salary?
He is effectively a free agent now because every club knows they could put in a measly bid for him and have a good chance of United accepting.
Personally, i think the best option for him would be to take a salary cut and go back to Sporting. He could play in the CL, im sure he would score a ton of goals in the Portuguese league and it would be a fitting way to end a great career.
He deserves better than finishing his club career with United, in the state we are in right now.
I can understand him wanting to leave. Would Messi want to end his career playing for Bornemouth?
Well Messi has always said he wants to finish up at Newell Old Boys, so yes.
Why don’t Ronaldo and United agree to mutually terminating the contract?
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He’s going nowhere
They also went from 77 to 53 without him, which basically defeat your whole claim here.
Because Joel Glazer doesn't want him to leave.
He created most chances for us last game though. He also created our best chance in first game.
He missed pre season when his commercial power is at its peak going away to foreign countries. That should have pissed him off and would have terminated his contract then and there.
He's not the problem on the pitch because he still has quality. The problem is off the pitch he's been absolutely poisonous(rightly or wrongly) to the rest of that squad who can't do shit with him around the club.
If Ronaldo leaves don't be surprised if every player in that squad plays to maximum.
How would you know?
Honestly, last year it was Ronaldo's fault because he didn't press. I guess that excuse is even too silly this year?
What's the theory this year? That Ronaldo doesn't like to lose, and the rest of the team is fine with losing....so the plan is to get rid of Ronaldo?
I've noticed that Pogba, our former really big problem, is gone and things didn't get instantly better. Makes me think that this scapegoating of players isn't really very good at picking out problems or finding solutions.
He's not poisonous. He's a winner with winning mentality. It's only because he's grouped up with wimps he becomes the odd one.
If all of our players has his attitude we would fare much much better
I'd fume if i play with a group of fannies that's sulking and stopped running
Totally hit the nail on the head. I don’t get this how argument of Ronaldo being the issue. He is natural born winner and trying to push the rest to become winners, but the rest are simply good enough to be at that level.
Thats the thing ... weak Juventus coaches who had no new ideas, simply thought that giving the ball to Ronaldo would solve their problems. Allegri's cycle at Juve was over (proven last season and I believe this season will prove it again), Sarri tried to play a style nobody at Juve could execute and Pirlo played a 1990s English style 4-4-2. When their tactics failed, they resorted to focusing only on getting the best out of Ronaldo.
Nailed it. But as expected, the team was going o suffer by going that route, and it did. Not only scored less goals overall but immediately put up the worst points total in the premier league era.
Haaland a central striker
Nunez a central striker
Ronaldo a central striker
What exactly is the problem with settin up with a central striker?
In this case I agreed with the rest that Ronaldo's mentality is indeed an issue in this team. Him being in the team makes others uncomfortable. He needs to go ASAP.
Ronaldo has destroyed his United legacy, he will be seeing as a mercenary from now on.
When he leaves our club many of us will be happy.
When he leaves our club many of us will be happy.
He deserves nothing. He's an average player quickly getting worse who is on a half a million a month of a contact he signed less than a year ago. Doesn't turn up to work and when he does he undermines the project. He's a piece of shit, I don't care how good he was 5 years ago.
Because despite it all, I suspect he wants his next move lined up and ready to sign. If there really are no suitors then he would probably stay and bank the £500k a week.
Absolutely ridicilous. Rashford and Harry Maguire has been aybmsal. They need to go first. Ronaldo is way down the list.
A week, not a month.
We need to get rid of him.
Hopefully Atleti take him.
Hopefully Atleti take him.
People need to wake up. Cristiano Ronaldo going is not going to magically solve our issues. Cristiano Ronaldo didn't play in matches last season. We still lost and played crap. Ronaldo going is not going to magically turn Rashford into a decent winger or Maguire into a decent centre back or McTominay into a decent midfielder.
Guy is incredibly rich. I don’t get why he doesn’t buy out his own contract and move on! He’s got more cash than we’ve got debt ffs!
Lingard could still get his shit from Rashford to be fair
Everyone knows that. But we need many changs and he's just one of them.
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