Agree with Harry and Rashford, but Ronaldo is big fecking problem as well. He needs to go yesterday.
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Those two want to stay, the other one want to leave. So just give him the "letter of freedom". The money Man Utd saved from his salary is probably enough to buy another striker.
Club simply has to back manager here, even if that means telling him to sling his hook on a free.
Understand why he’s pissed mind, but if ETH thinks he is undermining squad harmony, there’s only one decision to be made.
Understand why he’s pissed mind, but if ETH thinks he is undermining squad harmony, there’s only one decision to be made.
Both had good seasons the year before tbf.. not a Maguire fan but he's had good moments in a united shirt.
He probably would if he could. Joel glazer needs to allow it
I'm assuming it would be by mutual content given that he wants to leave?
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Thanks for this wellrounded look into your thinking around the pro's and con's with Ronaldo at Manchester United. I appreciate it and respect it.
We obviously see this with different eyes. I'm thinking 100% from a footballing and whats best for the club perspective, or at least I'm trying to. We have many other issues to handle and take care of for this squad (+eventual additions) to perform like we want to, but I truly believe that the biggest and sharpest stone in our shoe is Ronaldo and keeping him for another season will only put us in an even worse spot.
When you sign a 36 year old player who probably will go down in football history as one of the absolute GOATs, you expect him to elevate the players around him and mentor the others in addition to lead the line and be an example for the other players on the pitch. Thats not what we got. We got a selfcentered, non-pressing, falling star that instead of elevating his teammates has had the opposite effect on the squad. This is well documented through our results and all measurable team parameters before and after his arrival and with and without him on the pitch. When he also fails to turns up for pre-season, flirts with every other topclub in Europe and draws so much attention away from football and what we want to do on the pitch, it's not hard to see why many thinks he's a huge disruptive factor in the club as well. We are in a position where we need everyone in and around the first team to pull in the same direction.
Has to go im afraid. Would give ten hag authority among players and the hassle isn't worth it for one more season. Get in the atletico guy and one more cheap short term option like vardy, and just accept that it's an essential part of rebuilding this team
Has Maguire been chatting to the media again?
Yeah let's get a striker who scored 7 goals last season for nearly 50m. Great shout.
These leaks from the dressing room are annoying as feck.
Or they're just BS written after seeing Ronnie having an argument with Mclaren.
Or they're just BS written after seeing Ronnie having an argument with Mclaren.
Only what some of us said when this first broke. The people running things at this club are so so dim. Takes them months to figure what we can in minutes.
From all the reliable sources around the club, it does seem he has been a huge cnut and a deliberate disruptive influence for the last year.
On the Athletic podcast during pre-season, they all agreed that most footballing people at the club don't want him there anymore.
On the Athletic podcast during pre-season, they all agreed that most footballing people at the club don't want him there anymore.
Best news all summer. feck him off. Joel won’t allow it though.
Just freeze him out from the first team. I have no interest in letting him go if it's to another PL club and giving him whatever he wants because he is crying, he can go dab his tears with his stupid pay check
If a team from Europe comes after him then he can go and go feck himself
If a team from Europe comes after him then he can go and go feck himself
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So, basically, the wrong people are running the club?
I see loads of people like Mark Goldbridge completely backing Ronaldo as if he is some saint.
Lets look at facts.
1. Under Ole, we finished 2nd and had a good team spirit, Ronaldo signs, we lose games and the dressing room is a disaster
2. Ralf comes in and its still a disaster, he is dropped for City game and he decides to go to Portugal.
3. Pre season Ronaldo doesn't turn up, great atmosphere in the squad and team pressing.
4. Ronaldo back and the morale is down again.
This can't be a coincidence. It is clear he is causing some issues. I honestly think that he thinks he is bigger than the club and should be gotten rid of.
I have been watching All or Nothing and I can see similarities to the Aubameyang situation, as soon as Arteta got rid, things changed.
Lets look at facts.
1. Under Ole, we finished 2nd and had a good team spirit, Ronaldo signs, we lose games and the dressing room is a disaster
2. Ralf comes in and its still a disaster, he is dropped for City game and he decides to go to Portugal.
3. Pre season Ronaldo doesn't turn up, great atmosphere in the squad and team pressing.
4. Ronaldo back and the morale is down again.
This can't be a coincidence. It is clear he is causing some issues. I honestly think that he thinks he is bigger than the club and should be gotten rid of.
I have been watching All or Nothing and I can see similarities to the Aubameyang situation, as soon as Arteta got rid, things changed.
Hardly news that he's a bad influence on our dressing room but who even wants him for us to be able to get rid?
Bye
Apparently the Glazers are reluctant to let him go because he still brings big marketing value to the club, it was mentioned in United Hour podcast. If true, that certainly seems like another obstacle to running a club the healthy way.
Hes got more money than the club, he could probably fund our transfer window and bring in a full new team of stars, charity starts at home dont they say.
More reasons to get rid of him. I dont know why anyone can't see the correlation between him signing and us looking shit
On top of that, him coming back this season and us looking shit.
2 seasons, 2 similarities.
The fact we signed him because twitterdom went into meltdown tells you everything about how healthy the running of this club is.
Hands up if you are shocked CR7 would come back after pre season and be a bad influence?
Obviously the club.
These guys are so stupid. Lord help us.
Obviously the club.
These guys are so stupid. Lord help us.The clubs thinking on Ronaldo only matters if there's somewhere willing to take him that's acceptable to his ego and his wages.
Right now I don't see a taker. What we have here is a mismatch between his opinion of himself and the markets.
I think we're stuck sadly. When there was talk of him going to city last year I said they were welcome to him.
Right now I don't see a taker. What we have here is a mismatch between his opinion of himself and the markets.
I think we're stuck sadly. When there was talk of him going to city last year I said they were welcome to him.
Indeed. Feck him. Give him a loan deal, anything to get rid.
Did the Glazers phone the club and tell us to sign him or was it the f up that is our board and club structure?
I can't wait to hear the actual facts of this rather than leaks and rumours. I find it hard to believe that Ronaldo would be acting like this, by all accounts he's supposed to be only interested in winning, and creating a toxic atmosphere does not lead to that.
In any case, I still believe there are a number of causes to our situation, it cannot simply be one single player causing all the issues.
In any case, I still believe there are a number of causes to our situation, it cannot simply be one single player causing all the issues.
Doubt BBC would do their own reporting on it if it were simply unverified rumors tbf
Agreed. I believe this is leaks from the players who are shit, to shift focus from them.
Always blaming someone else.
Always blaming someone else.
If true, there's no way they'll sanction his departure. If we're stuck with him, we need to find a way to get it to work.
It’s tough to know isn’t it? I think people at the club felt letting him go to City weeks after fans stormed old Trafford would be a very bad idea. It was given as the main reason at the time. No ESL bullshit no Ronaldo. He definitely wasn’t signed by the football people - Mitten has said none of them had a clue he was coming. Ole was sentimental enough to want him though imo.
Yeah and a few other wasters, weak mentality. It was him in the canteen that cost all them goals on Saturday, club are taking a hand out of fans with there agenda.
It's untenable. He has to go.
Is that a quote from Martínez?
It's easy to say "by all accounts he's supposed to be only interested in winning", but I doubt anyone in the world has a sole single motivation in life, aside from narcissists. It's easy to look at him and things he has said and done over the years and conclude that he's very interested in getting his own way.
Whatever it is, we won't ever really know "the facts" because there'll be two sides to the story, then it'll just be the two sides picking what suits their view.
That's why it's not worth worrying or arguing about anymore.
So a conundrum of f ups. The manager for not being strong enough to say no and request a midfielder and the board for again believing they know what’s best for the club after loads of past mistakes.
We seen it again with the whole board room turning up for when Ronaldo came back. ETH needs to get some authority with this team and starting 11. Fast. He can’t look above him for help. They don’t have a clue.
He goes and I am sure we won’t replace him given the fire situation of our recruitment team!!
I don’t mind him leaving, I think he should for his own and club sake but I am also prepared for us to end up between 7-10th place!!
I think few years of pain with right coach and recruitment strategy is the right plan!!
I don’t mind him leaving, I think he should for his own and club sake but I am also prepared for us to end up between 7-10th place!!
I think few years of pain with right coach and recruitment strategy is the right plan!!
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