Like those cowards Giggs and Scholes then.Well, did he move to PL to prove he can do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke?
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Like those cowards Giggs and Scholes then.Well, did he move to PL to prove he can do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke?
They’re a far better team than us, where else would he have went?Still seems weird
Way way way too good for Juventus. Don't know what he was thinking
There was a time when being a one-club player was seen affectionately by most fans, including rivals.Every day he is staying at Barca, mate. What else has he to do there?
It’s completely different from Bayern and Bundesliga. They win it every year in April with 20 points more than the second team.Italian football is seriously becoming the next German league with Juventus dominance. Perhaps they are already monopolized by Juventus and even worse than German league.
Ronaldo first, club second?#cr7juve
most creative hashtag ever
Some 50 Cent - In da club vibes right thereHaha all the guys monitoring him in lab coats. Seems a bit much.
Thank you for the excellent insight. I better not judge other leagues like that.It’s completely different from Bayern and Bundesliga. They win it every year in April with 20 points more than the second team.
We just won serie A at the second last game after a tight battle with Napoli. In 2016/17 we won it with only 4 points more than Roma that placed second.
The main difference with the Bundesliga is that Roma, Napoli and even Inter I would say are clearly better than any other team in that league. They would easily place second and put up a good fight with Bayern.
Differently with what happens in Germany also our rivals don’t want to sell us their best players and most of the times they also don’t want to come because of the same reason. And when they do, we pay big money (90mln for Higuain, 36 for Pjanic and usually we overpay for any decent player) because our board actually wants to pour in money in Serie A. Bayern on the other hand “steal” players by making them wait until the contract expires and get them for free.
So don’t be fooled by the fact that we dominate, also Roma beating Barcelona and reaching UCL semi-finals should prove that Serie A is not an easy league at all.
How many teams have been better than Juventus the past years, after Real and Barca? Where would you have gone?
Ronaldo is way too good for a top 5 team in the world with a top 5 manager in the world?
Juventus were one game away from a treble TWICE and were beaten by the big 2 in Spain. Obviously he's not going to Barca so Juventus is the next best option.
Some serious underrating of Juventus here, both in terms of performance and the size of the club.
Such a strange and dumb post
What? Juventus are a fine club and he's 33. It's not like he is signing for a smaller club like Tottenham or West Ham, it's the biggest club in Italy and an institution in European football for sure. Great country, city, stadium and so on and so forth. Makes sense on many levels, he's never played in Italy before.
To a competitive league.They’re a far better team than us, where else would he have went?
Same way before the treble season Bayern lost 3 titles in 4 seasons, and the one they won was with a 5 point advantage over Wolfsburg.It’s completely different from Bayern and Bundesliga. They win it every year in April with 20 points more than the second team.
We just won serie A at the second last game after a tight battle with Napoli. In 2016/17 we won it with only 4 points more than Roma that placed second.
The main difference with the Bundesliga is that Roma, Napoli and even Inter I would say are clearly better than any other team in that league. They would easily place second and put up a good fight with Bayern.
Differently with what happens in Germany also our rivals don’t want to sell us their best players and most of the times they also don’t want to come because of the same reason. And when they do, we pay big money (90mln for Higuain, 36 for Pjanic and usually we overpay for any decent player) because our board actually wants to pour in money in Serie A. Bayern on the other hand “steal” players by making them wait until the contract expires and get them for free.
So don’t be fooled by the fact that we dominate, also Roma beating Barcelona and reaching UCL semi-finals should prove that Serie A is not an easy league at all.
He probably would've gone if they could manage to pay his transfer fee and wages, but it's kinda hard when you spend 400M between Mbappe and Neymar alone, and shower them with money.To a competitive league.
It's not Juventus. It's their league. His whole season will be about the Champions League now. With that the case, he may as well have gone to PSG and won them their first ever CL
And don't pretend Serie A is competitive. I can't remember off the top of my head when anyone but Juventus won it
What are you talking about? Higuain has been elected for 2 years in a row Juve's MVP, he has been one of the key players to win 2 leagues 2 Coppa Italia and to reach a CL final.Very risky transfer. If it works out fair dos to Juve but they must be praying that he doesn’t turn out the same as Higuain.
Sure, it’s been won by Juventus for seven years which is a bit of a pity for the league as a whole. But the last two years, Juventus have won with 4 and 5 points thanks to some last minute winners. The Premier League has been won by 19 and 7 points. Clearly, the Serie A has been very challenging lately for Juventus in comparison. You cannot entirely compare it to PSG’s or Bayern’s situations.To a competitive league.
It's not Juventus. It's their league. His whole season will be about the Champions League now. With that the case, he may as well have gone to PSG and won them their first ever CL
And don't pretend Serie A is competitive. I can't remember off the top of my head when anyone but Juventus won it
I was expecting something like the training sequence from Rocky IV, except the injections partMedical underway -
The "FIAT workers" turned out to be a very small independent union looking for easy publicity and in facts 5 workers out of 1700 joined the strike It was a PR stunt to begin with and Bloomberg might be a good source for NY financial markets but in this case just went along with the BS that was published online to take advantage of the Ronaldo storyWell no genius, do you even read? That‘s why I wrote ‚apparently‘ and ‚no idea if the source is worth a damn‘...
Besides better sources are confirming the story, i.e. Bloomberg so I have no idea what on earth you‘re on about.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...t-workers-as-player-s-purchase-prompts-strike
True, there was a time like that, which placed a value more with a player's supposed integrity, than the player's ability to adapt. Player's loyalty is what was lauded. Those times are long gone.There was a time when being a one-club player was seen affectionately by most fans, including rivals.
Point being the fact he doesn't want to leave Barça hardly means it's because he's afraid. He would have retired from Argentina a while ago if that was the case.
Ronaldo doesn't care about that, he isn't some fan watching the game! He wants to play for the best teams possible for the longest time possible. Moving to a top 5 team in the world in a slower league to extend his career is why he's going there.To a competitive league.
It's not Juventus. It's their league. His whole season will be about the Champions League now. With that the case, he may as well have gone to PSG and won them their first ever CL
And don't pretend Serie A is competitive. I can't remember off the top of my head when anyone but Juventus won it
Oh no.... so are you Barcelona fans going to keep going with the Ronaldo thing even after he leaves Madrid? Please don’tSame way before the treble season Bayern lost 3 titles in 4 seasons, and the one they won was with a 5 point advantage over Wolfsburg.
If you don't see a trend here with Juve winning 7 leagues in a row, them buying Higuain from Napoli or Pjanic from Roma, Roma being dismantled the next summer after finishing 2nd (Salah and Rudiger) or Napoli suffering the same fate (losing Sarri and Jorginho... so far) this summer then you're just not interested in saying that Juve are only looking stronger than everyone else, again, for 8th summer in a row.
One team has bought Ronaldo, Douglas Costa, Cuadrado, Pjanic and Higuain in the last 3 summers, the other two have signed Pastore, Kluivert, Ünder, Gerson, Dzeko, Fabian, Maksimovic, or Milik while selling their best players. You don't see the gap widening instead of closing there?. The fact that Roma and Napoli managed to milk their best seasons just before selling all their best players (and still failed to win the title) is just an anecdote.
Doesn't really do much to convince me I'm afraid. They've already won next season's title, it's just a matter of how many points. It must get hard to celebrate league wins at this point. I remember thinking after 3 in a row that I wouldn't mind heftier competition. I certainly didn't get the same buzz as I would if United win it next season.Sure, it’s been won by Juventus for seven years which is a bit of a pity for the league as a whole. But the last two years, Juventus have won with 4 and 5 points thanks to some last minute winners. The Premier League has been won by 19 and 7 points. Clearly, the Serie A has been very challenging lately for Juventus in comparison. You cannot entirely compare it to PSG’s or Bayern’s situations.
Juve get more than that for shirt sales, their deal with Adidas is structured differently than most other top clubs.No offense, but if you think that the revenue through sold Ronaldo jerseys you should consider taking a deeper dive into the economics of a football club. Someone already pointed out that a good proportion of these jerseys would've been sold anyway. However, even if the majority of the purchasers only bought the jersey due to Cristiano: juventus earns maybe 10-20€ per unit, maybe even less. If they are lucky, the profit covers Ronaldo's wages for the preseason. The party profiting the most is Nike. Of course Juventus improves their bargaining position towards their sponsors due to Ronaldo's signing and it is clear that they can demand more money from them now but it definitely is more complicated than "Ronaldo will compensate his transfer fee through jersey's sold". However, then again the brand value is decreased since they already invited FIAT to participate and Ronaldo markets himself autonomously, monetizing his brand himself.
And Ronaldo approximately will cost Juve 400 million over the course of four years. I think Juve's revenue in 2017 was around 550 million. These are gigantic expenses for a club like Turin, especially if Ronaldo can't keep up his level due to age. We'll see if this money was spent well.
No, the safest move footballing wise would have been staying in Madrid or even going to PSG.I understand that, but no "hater" is going to respect him more for that, it's the safest move he could make in terms of likelihood of footballing success.
It's a normal transfer, top player moving from a top club to another top club.No, the safest move footballing wise would have been staying in Madrid or even going to PSG.
Juve have an aging squad, after they won the title last season people were talking about the end of a cycle. They won it by 5 points and there was a point Napoli had one hand on the trophy, one year before that they finished just 4 points ahead of Roma. Serie A has been the most competitive league in the world in the past 2 years, in the 5 years before that it wasn’t the case but Napoli, Roma and Inter have stepped up.
Loads of people say he only scores as much and wins as much because of his Real Madrid teammates. He leaves and then you say it’s not a risk and that it’s going to be easy... Of course it’s a risk and he’s going to have to adapt. He’s leaving his comfort zone and should be applauded for it, especially at his age.
Do you realize Juventus is currently the top 5 team in Europe, and they are almost guarantee a major trophy every year, and Serie A is probably the ideal place for players in their 30's, and if Ronaldo break scoring record in Italy and win the CL, it will be great for his legacy?Still seems weird
Way way way too good for Juventus. Don't know what he was thinking
Oh, you had to try to climb into your high horse, didn't you?Oh no.... so are you Barcelona fans going to keep going with the Ronaldo thing even after he leaves Madrid? Please don’t
Sucks that Real Madrid win not only another title, they also are the first team to repeat title, but it sucks double when you support both Barcelona and Juve
There’s nothing normal about this. It’s the second time in his career that as the Ballon D’Or holder he’s moving to a worse team. He’s nearly 34 years old and he’s leaving his comfort zone.It's a normal transfer, top player moving from a top club to another top club.
Nothing to applaud or criticize, it's normal football.
Oh, you had to try to climb into your high horse, didn't you?
You just had to try and single me out for talking about my second favourite team when they sign frigging Cristiano Ronaldo
"End of a cycle", 95 points, +62 GD, the end of the cycle it's more likely to come for the team that just lost Jorginho and Sarri, not the ones that added the actual Ballon d'Or.No, the safest move footballing wise would have been staying in Madrid or even going to PSG.
Juve have an aging squad, after they won the title last season people were talking about the end of a cycle. They won it by 5 points and there was a point Napoli had one hand on the trophy, one year before that they finished just 4 points ahead of Roma. Serie A has been the most competitive league in the world in the past 2 years, in the 5 years before that it wasn’t the case but Napoli, Roma and Inter have stepped up.
Loads of people say he only scores as much and wins as much because of his Real Madrid teammates. He leaves and then you say it’s not a risk and that it’s going to be easy... Of course it’s a risk and he’s going to have to adapt. He’s leaving his comfort zone and should be applauded for it, especially at his age.
Nah, but at least if Ronaldo puts 5 goals on Real Madrid in the UCL QF's this season, I'll finally be able to feel joy for his goals, last time that happened was back in 2008 .There’s nothing normal about this. It’s the second time in his career that as the Ballon D’Or holder he’s moving to a worse team. He’s nearly 34 years old and he’s leaving his comfort zone.
Christ, this transfer just got a whole lot better. First @Vialli_92, now you. Are you going to buy a Ronaldo shirt?
Oh, you had to try to climb into your high horse, didn't you?
You just had to try and single me out for talking about my second favourite team when they sign frigging Cristiano Ronaldo
This season? Not like I’ve been watching Serie A since forever and been one of the most active posters in the Serie A threads, Ligue 1 threads, La Liga threads, etc. because I watch loads of football and talk about things I actually know."End of a cycle", 95 points, +62 GD, the end of the cycle it's more likely to come for the team that just lost Jorginho and Sarri, not the ones that added the actual Ballon d'Or.
"Roma have stepped up", they just lost 10 points compared to the 2017 season.
"Inter have stepped up", they scored 72 points, less than Liverpool or Valencia in their leagues, 2 more than Chelsea. Difference? Competting against Atalanta, Chievo, Crotone and Benevento, instead of Burnley, West Ham, Swansea or WBA.
Gotta check those Serie A facts if you're going to act like an Italian football guru starting this season.
I think that's just a mirage, like it happened with Atletico or Leicester, some team could actually rise their level and finish within 10 points of them (maybe Inter or Roma), but it's still far from being as competitive as you're trying it to sound, especially when they just signed this guy.This season? Not like I’ve been watching Serie A since forever and been one of the most active posters in the Serie A threads, Ligue 1 threads, La Liga threads, etc. because I watch loads of football and talk about things I actually know. Napoli lost Sarri and Jorginho. They’ve bought in Ancelotti and plenty of great players in already. Roma lost 10 points and didn’t challenge for the title but you might remember they knocked out Barcelona in the Champions League after getting out of a group with Chelsea and Atleti... Inter finished on 72 points, but they had injury problems and still massively improved and brought in players like Naingollan and are Vrij...
So yes, Serie A in the past 2 years has been nothing like what’s been in the 5 years before that and keeping the domestic dominance going for much longer will not be easy.
We’ll see. I think they have enough quality to repeat what they’ve done last season. They’ve bought very well so far and as of now they have a better squad than last season. Ancelotti has a poor league record but he’s one of the best managers in the world nevertheless, Napoli’s biggest problem last season was lack of rotation and I think Ancelotti will fix that at least.I think that's just a mirage, like it happened with Atletico or Leicester, some team could actually rise their level and finish within 10 points of them (maybe Inter or Roma), but it's still far from being as competitive as you're trying it to sound, especially when they just signed this guy.
Bold part, you seriously have Napoli as contenders because they brought Ancelotti in? The guy with 4 league titles after managing Juve, Milan, Chelsea, PSG, Real Madrid or Bayern in the last 20 years?. He lost one to Montpellier managing PSG and was on his way to lose the Bundesliga... with Bayern Munich, a Bundesliga with Bayern and a Ligue 1 with PSG account for 50% of his league titles.
I'd be surprised if Napoli score more than 72 points this season under Carlo.
Are you saying Atalanta, the same team that crushed Everton home and away last season, is easier than the teams you just mentioned?"End of a cycle", 95 points, +62 GD, the end of the cycle it's more likely to come for the team that just lost Jorginho and Sarri, not the ones that added the actual Ballon d'Or.
"Roma have stepped up", they just lost 10 points compared to the 2017 season.
"Inter have stepped up", they scored 72 points, less than Liverpool or Valencia in their leagues, 2 more than Chelsea. Difference? Competting against Atalanta, Chievo, Crotone and Benevento, instead of Burnley, West Ham, Swansea or WBA.
Gotta check those Serie A facts if you're going to act like an Italian football guru starting this season.
Nah, but at least if Ronaldo puts 5 goals on Real Madrid in the UCL QF's this season, I'll finally be able to feel joy for his goals, last time that happened was back in 2008 .
And if you want to know why I couldn't cheer for his goals with Portugal... well. One can only tolerate a certain amount of abuse from one country. I used to like you, guys
It's possible that the transfer will pay out for Juve, no doubt, but I don't think it is totally certain like you seem to do. I mean, we are talking about a total investment of around €400 million for a 33-37 year old over four years. Those kind of fees are usually only paid for someone who has at least 5-10 years ahead of him for sure and therefore either possesses a resale value or stay at the club for a very long time (like young Cristiano, Neymar, Dembele, Mbappe etc.).Juve get more than that for shirt sales, their deal with Adidas is structured differently than most other top clubs.
They sold 520 thousand shirts in the first 24 hours, 140 Euros per shirt... it’s insane. Adidas will get most of that but the money they’ll get from shirts isn’t irrelevant. Having Ronaldo will have a positive effect on every single source of revenue for Juventus.
This isn’t a massive risk for Juventus. If it was, it would have never happened.
They spent 90m on him to win the CL. He’s scored 4 and 5 respectively, with 1/2 goals in the knock out stages, a respectable return but nowhere transformative. If Ronaldo has the same return/impact, it’ll be a lot of money down the sink even if they manage to maintain their domestic dominance.What are you talking about? Higuain has been elected for 2 years in a row Juve's MVP, he has been one of the key players to win 2 leagues 2 Coppa Italia and to reach a CL final.
I hear a lot of BS on Higuain by people that has hardly seen him playing, he was and is one of the best forwards in the world
Its a risk, but then Ronaldo is probably the only player capable of winning Ballon D'or and top scorer at the age of 31, 32 and 33.It's possible that the transfer will pay out for Juve, no doubt, but I don't think it is totally certain like you seem to do. I mean, we are talking about a total investment of around €400 million for a 33-37 year old over four years. Those kind of fees are usually only paid for someone who has at least 5-10 years ahead of him for sure and therefore either possesses a resale value or stay at the club for a very long time (like young Cristiano, Neymar, Dembele, Mbappe etc.).
Didn't know about the specific adidas deal though, do you have any links for me? Would like to read more about it.
As stated earlier, I think it will also depend on how well Ronaldo will age from now on. If he declines in one or two seasons, this may become an expensive deal for Juventus.
Atalanta crushed this Everton, not this one.Are you saying Atalanta, the same team that crushed Everton home and away last season, is easier than the teams you just mentioned?
Buffon (40) -> Perin (25)Juve have an aging squad