Dani Alves | Guilty of rape, sentenced to 4 and a half years in prison

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A sign that having it all is not enough? Or that people can't cope with this level of fame? Imagine this cnut being your dad. A lot of victims in this case.

4 years seems soft.
Could not have said it better. He already 1 year and perhaps get parole too. Back to normal life of wealth whilst victims suffer.
 

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Disgusting human being. Should have been a longer jail time.
 

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Too many of these cases popping up.

I know it's very easy to condemn the individual, as we should, but is this also an indictment on the footballing environment as a whole where teenagers are idolized and earn obscene amounts of money, causing them to be able to get what they want, when they want it. I'm no psychologist, but I can imagine this having an effect on people's mindsets and even creating narcissitic tendencies.

This is in no way an excuse for him, and he rightly deserves what is coming his way, but I do wonder how these young people are coached into a healthy lifestyle, or if they are let to each to their own.
What’s the basis of this conclusion aside from it fitting your confirmation bias? Do you have the numbers that suggest that footballers attempt rape more often than general population?
 

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Seems to be the theme amongst some fans.

personally in a male dominated sport I think some standards need to be applied
Look at the adulation Maradona gets.

Cheat, Drug addict, Alleged rape. etc etc...the man was a bad egg.
But hey he was good at football so polish the pedestal and then make it higher!
 

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Some people when they have some money and fame they think they're entitled to everything. He better not drop any soap while he's in there although he's most likely going to be in some posh comfy prison loft.
 

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Too short of a sentence. The woman need therapy for a very long time and wont ever fully recover.

Far too lenient.


Some people when they have some money and fame they think they're entitled to everything. He better not drop any soap while he's in there although he's most likely going to be in some posh comfy prison loft.
He will probably be 'protected' given his wealth
 

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Look at the adulation Maradona gets.

Cheat, Drug addict, Alleged rape. etc etc...the man was a bad egg.
But hey he was good at football so polish the pedestal and then make it higher!
Yeah hadn’t thought about him

perhaps appealing to their egos is the way to go.
 

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What’s the basis of this conclusion aside from it fitting your confirmation bias? Do you have the numbers that suggest that footballers attempt rape more often than general population?
Personally don’t think it is isolated to footballers. There is a general trend of gang rape and sexual assault being more and more common especially amongst the young. Pornography and social media have a huge responsibility here of normalizing unacceptable behaviour.
 

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What is it with pro athletes and rape?

The power? The 'thrill'?
I just don't get it.

I know it's only a small percentage of misdemeanants relative to the whole group of 'pro athletes', but I think this group in general commits a higher percentage of sexual crimes relative to the rest of the population.


Good that he actually got convicted for what he did, I hate it when they buy their way out of these crimes.
 

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Personally don’t think it is isolated to footballers. There is a general trend of gang rape and sexual assault being more and more common especially amongst the young. Pornography and social media have a huge responsibility here of normalizing unacceptable behaviour.
That argument holds about as much weight as 'horror movies are responsible for normalizing murder'. Audiences can decipher the difference between reality and fiction. We know that horror movies are fake, and we know that pornography is fake.

Dani Alves is just a despicable person. The crime he committed has nothing to do with how much porn he watches or how often he spends on social media.
 

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Alves’ friend who was with him that night testified the football player drank wine and whisky before going to the nightclub.

Let me make this about me for a minute. I actually had a dream on Tuesday where I drank wine and whisky! I woke up thinking "that's a dangerous mix, what's up with that?" Alves set himself on fire with that alcohol combination.
Yeah, that must be it. Not his complete lack of character, empathy and moral.
 

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This went over my head. Its always hard to understand why the worlds greatest footballers seem to have knack for prostitutes or rape. They are treated as demi gods and are no short of options. I just think their incredible egos makes them feel entitled to do whatever they feel like and their arrogance has shut down their empathy.
 

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This went over my head. Its always hard to understand why the worlds greatest footballers seem to have knack for prostitutes or rape. They are treated as demi gods and are no short of options. I just think their incredible egos makes them feel entitled to do whatever they feel like and their arrogance has shut down their empathy.
They aren't same thing.
 

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They aren't same thing.
I know. Im just puzzled about Rooney and R9 seeking out prostitutes when there are millions who want to sleep with them. I think Rvp had a prostitute case as well.
 

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I know. Im just puzzled about Rooney and R9 seeking out prostitutes when there are millions who want to sleep with them. I think Rvp had a prostitute case as well.
I would guess that because they were in long-term relationships, they felt confident they could have sex with prostitutes without their partner finding out. Turns out prostitutes aren't sworn to secrecy either.

Anyway, that's completely unrelated to the Dani Alves situation.
 

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I would guess that because they were in long-term relationships, they felt confident they could have sex with prostitutes without their partner finding out. Turns out prostitutes aren't sworn to secrecy either.

Anyway, that's completely unrelated to the Dani Alves situation.
Stormy Daniels would agree.
 

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I would guess that because they were in long-term relationships, they felt confident they could have sex with prostitutes without their partner finding out. Turns out prostitutes aren't sworn to secrecy either.

Anyway, that's completely unrelated to the Dani Alves situation.
I think it's more about being with someone who knows what they're doing. It's all about the experience and they can pay for whatever they want.
 

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I think it's more about being with someone who knows what they're doing. It's all about the experience and they can pay for whatever they want.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. It's hardly like most women who aren't prostitutes don't know what they're doing in bed.

Anyway, I'm conscious about derailing this thread so let's leave it there.
 

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I think it's more about being with someone who knows what they're doing. It's all about the experience and they can pay for whatever they want.
Rooney's grandma probably had a decades of experience. Anyway im taking the thread off topic. I'll stop
 

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The sentence is regrettable. If you have money the sentence is less.

In the sentence issued by the court, it makes it clear that they have applied "the mitigating circumstance of reparation of the damage to the defendant Daniel Alves". It has been proven "that prior to the trial, the defence paid the sum of 150,000 euros into the court's account so that it could be given to the victim, without any kind of conditions".

Shameful sentence.
 

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The sentence is regrettable. If you have money the sentence is less.

In the sentence issued by the court, it makes it clear that they have applied "the mitigating circumstance of reparation of the damage to the defendant Daniel Alves". It has been proven "that prior to the trial, the defence paid the sum of 150,000 euros into the court's account so that it could be given to the victim, without any kind of conditions".

Shameful sentence.
So, he basically paid for a reduced sentence ?
 
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But surely we can just let him play football and ignore everything else. We just care about football
He’s been tried and convicted after a courtroom trial, I think you’re making a silly point.
In this case, a courtroom has heard all of the evidence from both sides and both sides have had an opportunity to cross examine that. At this moment, he’s 100% guilty in the eyes of the law.
 
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What is it with pro athletes and rape?

The power? The 'thrill'?
I just don't get it.

I know it's only a small percentage of misdemeanants relative to the whole group of 'pro athletes', but I think this group in general commits a higher percentage of sexual crimes relative to the rest of the population.


Good that he actually got convicted for what he did, I hate it when they buy their way out of these crimes.
I don’t think this is the case, just seems higher because it becomes big news.

Sexual assault happens multiple times daily, this isn’t going to be dominated by athletes.
 

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He’s been tried and convicted after a courtroom trial, I think you’re making a silly point.
In this case, a courtroom has heard all of the evidence from both sides and both sides have had an opportunity to cross examine that. At this moment, he’s 100% guilty in the eyes of the law.
You’re taking me too seriously, I was being sarcastic
 

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I had no idea he was under trial for rape. Funny enough I was just recently chatting to mates about how good of a RB he was only to know find out he's a rapist POS that's going to be rotting in a jail cell :nervous:
 

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What a disgusting being and the 4.5 year sentence is too soft.
 

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So basically this cnut raped a girl. changed his version 5 times to the judge:

- There was no encounter and he didn't know her
- Oh but there are cameras: So yes, I remember now. We met at the bathrooms but thats all
- Then that he knew who is the girl through some friends
- Something might had happened but no penetration just some good'ol blowy. All consensual
- Oh but there is DNA in her vaginal area: Oh well, yes, we feck but was all consensual. The girl was probably mad because I asked to get out of the bathroom separately

Meanwhile, the girls version was clearly consistent along time, testimony, videos and medical explorations

Range for Alves criminal offence is 4 to 12 years

But guess what. There is a provision of mitigation to pay reparations in advanced

Alves paid 150.000 what puts him on this mitigation to the lower end of 4 to 8 years. Meaning. You are rich? You shave already 4 years of prison right of the bat

In the end he had been condemned 4 years and 1/2 . IMO to not say that they condemned him to the bare minimum

Under spanish law, if you are well behaved you might get out of prison on probation after you served 1/3 of the time. Meaning that in 1.5 years of time he would be able to get out of prison. He already served 1 year and 1 month. Meaning that in 5 months he might get out of prison

Lovely
 

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So basically this cnut raped a girl. changed his version 5 times to the judge:

- There was no encounter and he didn't know her
- Oh but there are cameras: So yes, I remember now. We met at the bathrooms but thats all
- Then that he knew who is the girl through some friends
- Something might had happened but no penetration just some good'ol blowy. All consensual
- Oh but there is DNA in her vaginal area: Oh well, yes, we feck but was all consensual. The girl was probably mad because I asked to get out of the bathroom separately

Meanwhile, the girls version was clearly consistent along time, testimony, videos and medical explorations

Range for Alves criminal offence is 4 to 12 years

But guess what. There is a provision of mitigation to pay reparations in advanced

Alves paid 150.000 what puts him on this mitigation to the lower end of 4 to 8 years. Meaning. You are rich? You shave already 4 years of prison right of the bat

In the end he had been condemned 4 years and 1/2 . IMO to not say that they condemned him to the bare minimum

Under spanish law, if you are well behaved you might get out of prison on probation after you served 1/3 of the time. Meaning that in 1.5 years of time he would be able to get out of prison. He already served 1 year and 1 month. Meaning that in 5 months he might get out of prison

Lovely
Crazy that he can weasel his way out of it when he's clearly guilty.
 

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So basically this cnut raped a girl. changed his version 5 times to the judge:

- There was no encounter and he didn't know her
- Oh but there are cameras: So yes, I remember now. We met at the bathrooms but thats all
- Then that he knew who is the girl through some friends
- Something might had happened but no penetration just some good'ol blowy. All consensual
- Oh but there is DNA in her vaginal area: Oh well, yes, we feck but was all consensual. The girl was probably mad because I asked to get out of the bathroom separately

Meanwhile, the girls version was clearly consistent along time, testimony, videos and medical explorations

Range for Alves criminal offence is 4 to 12 years

But guess what. There is a provision of mitigation to pay reparations in advanced

Alves paid 150.000 what puts him on this mitigation to the lower end of 4 to 8 years.
Meaning. You are rich? You shave already 4 years of prison right of the bat

In the end he had been condemned 4 years and 1/2 . IMO to not say that they condemned him to the bare minimum

Under spanish law, if you are well behaved you might get out of prison on probation after you served 1/3 of the time. Meaning that in 1.5 years of time he would be able to get out of prison. He already served 1 year and 1 month. Meaning that in 5 months he might get out of prison

Lovely
Is this real?

It's not like the rich aren't going to get away with almost anything as it is, but in Spain you can literally just pay to have your sentence reduced?