Are you related to Levy. He is not worth 40/50 milion.I would rather pay for an experienced prime Rose than Tierney who is close to Shaw, age-wise and not even as good.
Are you related to Levy. He is not worth 40/50 milion.I would rather pay for an experienced prime Rose than Tierney who is close to Shaw, age-wise and not even as good.
A few good games hasn't put Shaw at the top again. He at least needs to prove he can stay fit and firing for a season firstSorry but he ain't better than Shaw and he is not worth 40/50 million IMO.
Before shaw had that terrible injury he was England number 1 left back, and Rose would have never got his place on the England side before him.That's your opinion which you are entitled to - doesn't make it right.
That's all well and good if you ignore the fact he had that terrible injury.Before shaw had that terrible injury he was England number 1 left back, and Rose would have never got his place on the England side before him.
how many times have you watched Tierney in all honesty to make that decision.I would rather pay for an experienced prime Rose than Tierney who is close to Shaw, age-wise and not even as good.
You are all forgetting how good he was before that terrible injury. Give the lad a chance and he will get back to his best.A few good games hasn't put Shaw at the top again. He at least needs to prove he can stay fit and firing for a season first
I think this is spot on and exactly what will happen.I don’t really understand the talk of Rose now. It’s literally the worst timing.
Shaw is showing some signs of recovering his form and we also have the re-emergence of Ashley Young who’s been very good whenever he’s played at LB. The LB is no longer top priority for strengthening. RW, #10, RB, CM are all more important in my opinion.
On top of that, Rose has been struggling with fitness and is not yet back to his 2016 form. He’s been overtaken by Davies at Spurs. In his 2016 form, he is worth 40/50. In his current state he is not.
So I reckon all this is just media created for clicks. If we’re considering Rose, it has to be for the summer after we’ve evaluated Shaw’s progress, plugged the more urgent holes and Rose has shown some form and consistency.
At last. Someone talking sense.I don’t really understand the talk of Rose now. It’s literally the worst timing.
Shaw is showing some signs of recovering his form and we also have the re-emergence of Ashley Young who’s been very good whenever he’s played at LB. The LB is no longer top priority for strengthening. RW, #10, RB, CM are all more important in my opinion.
On top of that, Rose has been struggling with fitness and is not yet back to his 2016 form. He’s been overtaken by Davies at Spurs. In his 2016 form, he is worth 40/50. In his current state he is not.
So I reckon all this is just media created for clicks. If we’re considering Rose, it has to be for the summer after we’ve evaluated Shaw’s progress, plugged the more urgent holes and Rose has shown some form and consistency.
All factors considered, he's probably not worth it. Where did I say otherwise?Are you related to Levy. He is not worth 40/50 milion.
I would rather pay for an experienced prime Rose than Tierney who is close to Shaw, age-wise and not even as good.All factors considered, he's probably not worth it. Where did I say otherwise?
More than enough to make a decision. The problem with Shaw is his fitness, if he can stay fit, I don't see how signing a 20yearold that is not exactly better than him will suit him or us. It's a win-win situation for neither Shaw, Tierney or Man Utd.how many times have you watched Tierney in all honesty to make that decision.
When you consider Shaw's recent form, it would be kind of pointless to sign a play that is almost the same age as him, and not better.I would rather pay for an experienced prime Rose than Tierney who is close to Shaw, age-wise and not even as good.
This is what you wrote knowing his price was quoted at being 40/50 million in this debate.
Don't really know what Tierney is quoted at.
Spot on. If Shaw can stay fit, it would be wiser to spend on a long-term RB in the summer instead.LB is not a priority atm cos Shaw and Young are playing very well. Shaw also deserves to be given a chance to see how he gets on with a long stint in the team. I don't think we should sign any LB in this window. Reassess the situation in the summer and I'm sure we will be able to get someone if we feel we need someone.
Yeah because Valencia is slowing down (as expected with age) and Darmian hasn't set the world alight. Meunier would be a good shout imo.Spot on. If Shaw can stay fit, it would be wiser to spend on a long-term RB in the summer instead.
Absolutely agree with thisI don’t really understand the talk of Rose now. It’s literally the worst timing.
Shaw is showing some signs of recovering his form and we also have the re-emergence of Ashley Young who’s been very good whenever he’s played at LB. The LB is no longer top priority for strengthening. RW, #10, RB, CM are all more important in my opinion.
On top of that, Rose has been struggling with fitness and is not yet back to his 2016 form. He’s been overtaken by Davies at Spurs. In his 2016 form, he is worth 40/50. In his current state he is not.
So I reckon all this is just media created for clicks. If we’re considering Rose, it has to be for the summer after we’ve evaluated Shaw’s progress, plugged the more urgent holes and Rose has shown some form and consistency.
Because Rose is better than all of Shaw, Young and Valencia. And 2 of those 3 aren't the long term answer Shaw still has huge question marks surrounding him. FB is also the weakest position on the roster.I don’t really understand the talk of Rose now. It’s literally the worst timing.
Shaw is showing some signs of recovering his form and we also have the re-emergence of Ashley Young who’s been very good whenever he’s played at LB. The LB is no longer top priority for strengthening. RW, #10, RB, CM are all more important in my opinion.
On top of that, Rose has been struggling with fitness and is not yet back to his 2016 form. He’s been overtaken by Davies at Spurs. In his 2016 form, he is worth 40/50. In his current state he is not.
So I reckon all this is just media created for clicks. If we’re considering Rose, it has to be for the summer after we’ve evaluated Shaw’s progress, plugged the more urgent holes and Rose has shown some form and consistency.
You are entitled to your opinion mate. Maybe i am getting too old for all you youngsters but i'm watching football now since 1959 and I think I still know a player when I see one. For me Rose is not worth anywhere near the money that Levy is looking for him. They know he is injury prone but because it is Manchester United they will push us for more. You don't see anyone else rushing to buy him. So I will leave it there.When you consider Shaw's recent form, it would be kind of pointless to sign a play that is almost the same age as him, and not better.
That quote does not mean I want Rose or that he's worth the price - I was exaggerating to make a point. It makes more sense, paying top dollar for an experienced and proven Rose rather than paying half the price for - refer my first paragraph - Tierney.
Not many players go for the fee they are worth these days and Rose should certainly be no exception if he moves. A player of Rose' quality should realistically move for that price if not for his poor injury record which is why I added in the other post, "all factors considered".
Think you underestimate how good Rose is, Shaw's doing well at the moment but he isn't as good as Rose yet.Before shaw had that terrible injury he was England number 1 left back, and Rose would have never got his place on the England side before him.
He is better than Shaw.Sorry but he ain't better than Shaw and he is not worth 40/50 million IMO.
England managers believed he was before his injury and he will get back to his best given game time. Everyone have their own opinion.Think you underestimate how good Rose is, Shaw's doing well at the moment but he isn't as good as Rose yet.
Your entitled to your opinion mate.He is better than Shaw.
You’d think that only ever being picked as a left back, and spending all his minutes on the field in that position, would be what determines how good a left back he can become.I think under the right manager Shaw can become a top-class fullback, but it’s pretty obvious Jose isn’t that manager, so it’s best to part ways.
Rose has been poor this season, but I imagine that’s primarily due to his lack of motivation/consistent game time after injury; I feel he wants United. At least he’d have a blank canvas next season upon which to discover his best form again.
Isn't it justDanny Rose is an interesting way to spell Alex Sandro
Psychology varies from manager to manager; Shaw needs love to flourish, not tough love. Plus playing fullback under Mourinho is different to others. You sense Shaw is constantly playing with the handbrake on under Jose, whereas Pochettino would encourage him to raid forward at will.You’d think that only ever being picked as a left back, and spending all his minutes on the field in that position, would be what determines how good a left back he can become.