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It's not true at all.Is that defo true?
I do find it odd that Klopp doesn’t allow him to build up momentum with proper minutes.
It's not true at all.Is that defo true?
I do find it odd that Klopp doesn’t allow him to build up momentum with proper minutes.
Funny thing is, the poster managed to drag Utd into it where it wasn't really needed. We kind of know we are dogshit and got no serious manager so not sure what the poster is getting by acting smug on here especially during these times. It's like beating a dead horse.He looks a much improved player but what the feck is this? Sounds like 12 year old lingo.
It does. But the league output is also spread across the five. The cups have been very useful to get everyone in rhythm, which has helped. Best attacking depth in Europe?It helps to play crap teams in EL and league cup, right?
I mentioned it not to dig into United, but to illustrate how Liverpool’s upturn over the past few seasons is massively down to how most players improve under Klopp’s management. Nunez may be the next example of this.Funny thing is, the poster managed to drag Utd into it where it wasn't really needed. We kind of know we are dogshit and got no serious manager so not sure what the poster is getting by acting smug on here especially during these times. It's like beating a dead horse.
You’re right, it’s juvenile nonsense but it seems many folk now engage with football purely for online ‘banter’. The Nunez coverage seemed to be about memes and jokes despite him doing ok in his first season. I agree it’s daft language. It’s why I put it in speech marks.He looks a much improved player but what the feck is this? Sounds like 12 year old lingo.
Liverpool have the best forward, the best front 3, the best attacking depth, etc, but never score the most goals. I wonder why. Even Rodgers' Liverpool scored more PL goals than the one with the best front 3 ever.It does. But the league output is also spread across the five. The cups have been very useful to get everyone in rhythm, which has helped. Best attacking depth in Europe?
Yes, he tried to swap him for another playerIs that defo true?
I do find it odd that Klopp doesn’t allow him to build up momentum with proper minutes.
So Klopp tried to swap him for a worse player?Yes, he tried to swap him for another player
https://www.liverpoolfcnews.co.uk/a...al-to-sign-this-world-star-20230907-0010.html
I’m explicitly talking about this season. But go ahead, let’s look together at squads with better attacking depth.Liverpool have the best forward, the best front 3, the best attacking depth, etc, but never score the most goals. I wonder why. Even Rodgers' Liverpool scored more PL goals than the one with the best front 3 ever.
City, obviously. KDB played more as a forward than as a pure midfielder last season. He contributed 40 goals or so. That's why Guardiola plays Alvarez in his role now he's injured. Once he's back, City have Haaland, Alvarez, Foden, Grealish, Doku and KDB. If you don't want to count as part of the attack someone with 40 goal involvements, it's your problem.I’m explicitly talking about this season. But go ahead, let’s look together at squads with better attacking depth.
You go first…
Prime example was the last goal against Bournemouth.Agree. He has elite level of athleticism. You would expect him to closer to Haaland, but he still seems very erratic to be that deadly. His explosiveness means that he can't be contained, so he can't be useless forever especially playing a side that can create chances, opening through chaos like Klopp Liverpool. S even currently he's not a player Klopp would start, or leave on the pitch full 90 minutes all the time.
Ok. Your definition of forwards is obviously different to mine.City, obviously. KDB played more as a forward than as a pure midfielder last season. He contributed 40 goals or so. That's why Guardiola plays Alvarez in his role now he's injured. Once he's back, City have Haaland, Alvarez, Foden, Grealish, Doku and KDB. If you don't want to count as part of the attack someone with 40 goal involvements, it's your problem.
To quantify the best ("most formidable") attack one has to look at GF. To claim Liverpool have the best attack is to make the prediction that Liverpool will outscore the other PL teams. Only time can show whether that prediction is a good one. As I already wrote, Liverpool have never scored the most goals under Klopp. They might do it this season, but I doubt it.Ok. Your definition of forwards is obviously different to mine.
My contention is hardly original. Since the season started it’s been opined across a host of media - podcasts, punditry, print press. You don’t have to agree with it and proffering alternatives is fine, but it’s absolutely within reason to suggest Liverpool have the best depth in attack. It’s not ‘my problem’.
https://theathletic.com/4952625/202...e-attack-analysis/?source=user_shared_articleLiverpool’s ‘Famous Five’: How Jurgen Klopp built Europe’s most formidable attack
According to all the dippers I’ve ever met they have the best players in every position.Ok. Your definition of forwards is obviously different to mine.
My contention is hardly original. Since the season started it’s been opined across a host of media - podcasts, punditry, print press. You don’t have to agree with it and proffering alternatives is fine, but it’s absolutely within reason to suggest Liverpool have the best depth in attack. It’s not ‘my problem’.
https://theathletic.com/4952625/202...e-attack-analysis/?source=user_shared_articleLiverpool’s ‘Famous Five’: How Jurgen Klopp built Europe’s most formidable attack
Best depth doesn’t equate to most prolific. It simply means being able to rotate players in and out without a significant drop off. Liverpool can do this on a scale others can’t - five very good forwards - not ‘attackers’. I thought this would be implicit in the word ‘depth’. Apparently you’ve misunderstood my initial comment. But I take on board your broader points.To quantify the best ("most formidable") attack one has to look at GF. To claim Liverpool have the best attack is to make the prediction that Liverpool will outscore the other PL teams. Only time can show whether that prediction is a good one. As I already wrote, Liverpool have never scored the most goals under Klopp. They might do it this season, but I doubt it.
Articles like the one you are referring to are written for click baits. The whole team attacks and the whole team defends. If the forwards of team X score more goals than the forwards of team Y but Y score as a team more goals than X, who have the better attack?
Also, I don't see Gakpo/Nunez and Jota as formidable options from the bench. Might be wrong, time will tell.
Not sure if serious.To quantify the best ("most formidable") attack one has to look at GF. To claim Liverpool have the best attack is to make the prediction that Liverpool will outscore the other PL teams. Only time can show whether that prediction is a good one. As I already wrote, Liverpool have never scored the most goals under Klopp. They might do it this season, but I doubt it.
Articles like the one you are referring to are written for click baits. The whole team attacks and the whole team defends. If the forwards of team X score more goals than the forwards of team Y but Y score as a team more goals than X, who have the better attack?
Also, I don't see Gakpo/Nunez and Jota as formidable options from the bench. Might be wrong, time will tell.
Luton?I’m explicitly talking about this season. But go ahead, let’s look together at squads with better attacking depth.
You go first…
He may always has donkey moments, and may never be the most clinical player; he's not the type of player you can say just leave him be. His explosive style of play is a nightmare for defenders to mark him. Luton GK had a good game and made several important saves from goal bound, good technical shots from Nunez.I never understood recent praises, he was and always will be a donkey. People have short memories.
This is all fine and well but there are only a handful of top club players who miss chances like the one he had today.He may always has donkey moments, and may never be the most clinical player; he's not the type of player you can say just leave him be. His explosive style of play is a nightmare for defenders to mark him. Luton GK had a good game and made several important saves from goal bound, good technical shots from Nunez.
I didn't think it's the same as Werner case. Werner is more of pace merchant type of forward which lack physical presence in the box. Nunez lack clinicalness and having donkey moment, but overall he has all desirable trait of a forward. Nunez flop season already beat Werner best PL tally!!!This is all fine and well but there are only a handful of top club players who miss chances like the one he had today.
Had Werner at Chelsea vibes that.
Nope, would never swap Hojlund for donkey lad, ever.Unbelievable miss.
But would swap him for any of Utd’s forwards in a heartbeat.