Absolutely this. What happened on contract shouldn't be having any bearing on his service he gave us. He was one of the best GK for about 3 seasons and that was during our bad days.
Hope we handle this on priority and carefully.
David De Gea | Free agent | Said his goodbyes
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Hope we handle this on priority and carefully.
That is absolutely not the main stat that any keeper is judged onI mean, apart from the main stat that keepers are judged on - clean sheets
Eh? It's literally the stat that an award is given out for at the end of the season?!That is absolutely not the main stat that any keeper is judged on
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/david-degea-manutd-contract-deal-30334171
Of course can question the source but that's where that came from (for me, I've seen it posted elsewhere too like the usual lot of Mail, Sun, ESPN etc.)
Yes. That doesn't mean it's the main stat that's used to gauge a keeper's performances, ability, or potential. I don't think any scouting or analytics team cares that much about clean sheets; plenty of other more important metrics.Eh? It's literally the stat that an award is given out for at the end of the season?!
You are taking this very seriously aren't you? The comment I was replying to said that 'All the stats show that this year in PL, he was at best an average keeper' . I was just pointing out that in fact the one stat that actually ends up in a trophy for a goalkeeper at the end of each season De Gea actually won. So you can stick your laughing smiley up your arse
And no, I don't think that winning the golden gloves means that he was the best goalie in the league, but as far as stats go it's weird to completely ignore the very one that the footballing authorities choose to give an award for.
Goalkeeping stats in general are quite hard to quantify. Alisson for example makes a lot of saves look easy or makes the striker look poor but its almost entirely his positioning and timing when he comes out to meet the attacker.
No surprises I am very dubious of those sources. Looking around this alls stems from a random Athletic article which offers zero proof or quotes or sources.
United have been a bit of a shoddily run business in some aspects but I doubt this is true.
BBC football reported that if de gea does leave Utd want him to return for a proper send off, im thinking a testimonial. It would be deserved.
When you’re losing a player who was earning 1.5 million a month it feels like we are receiving a fee
Madrid were the lucky ones that day.
There was never a fax machine. Somebody started that rumor as a joke and it spread like wildfire. At this point it's probably one of the biggest myths in football history.
How is it nonsense?
The fax machine story was a myth? Really??
I’m expecting a joint statement tomorrow confirming his exit with lots of praise and probably a promise at a future testimonial
We have a fanbase with the memory of a goldfish. The witch hunt on De Gea is a disgrace but it what is and nothing will change that. There should be no expectation that our new keeper, whoever he may be, will be held to the same standards as De Gea was held to.
A loyal servant. Not a blip on his United career, attitude wise.
Deserves a proper sending at least.
Time for him to leave, could have been dealt with better, water under the bridge.
Deserves a proper sending at least.
Time for him to leave, could have been dealt with better, water under the bridge.
Yeah I would totally agree
Will never forget the stretch of around 24 months where he was probably the best shot stopper to ever play the game.
If he is going it is probably at the right time and if reports are to be believed then it's a shame it probably wasn't handled brilliantly.
If he is going it is probably at the right time and if reports are to be believed then it's a shame it probably wasn't handled brilliantly.
It wasn't a fax machine but the gist of the story is probably accurate. The sale was agreed but documents weren't sent and/or received in time, so it couldn't be finalised. 8 years later we still have De Gea, or maybe not now?
From a statistical POV it's not. But the people who decided that's an award we give goalkeepers weren't strong on statistics.You are taking this very seriously aren't you? The comment I was replying to said that 'All the stats show that this year in PL, he was at best an average keeper' . I was just pointing out that in fact the one stat that actually ends up in a trophy for a goalkeeper at the end of each season De Gea actually won. So you can stick your laughing smiley up your arse
And no, I don't think that winning the golden gloves means that he was the best goalie in the league, but as far as stats go it's weird to completely ignore the very one that the footballing authorities choose to give an award for.
Yeah it definitely should have been handled better
Yes. All transfers since 2010 are done via electronic upload through FIFA's Transfer Matching System (TMS). Real failed to upload their required documentation in time.
Should we sign him on a free?
5X PFA team of the year, 1X FIFPRO world 11 btw, but don't let the facts get in the way of another brain dead post.
At least you're not embarrassing yourself salivating over a post on a parody account this time. Progress!
He has been a great servant of the club and we must appreciate how he has prevented the club from finishing in an even worse state. But now times have changed and we have a progressive manager who is willing to play attacking (not solely counter-attacking) football. I think he will move on as will United.
Great serpent of the club and deserves a testimonial
Completely agree. Until we shake up our recruitment and get a DoF that actually understands football and isn't just learning on the job this will keep happening. We hire a manager who plays progressive football and yet the recuitment/contracts arm of the club are not on the same page.
Although it was a mess it's the right decision. Want a personality in goal who can dominate. Ideally with that and furrher continual improvements to our back line (bye bye Harry) our keepers main role will become sweeper starting attacks
If the story is true, this is not how we should treat him or any other players who gave their best to us. Whoever did this needs to be sack.
Clean sheets on their own say nothing about who's impacted the outcome and saying "the defence" includes the GK. He's not just a traffic cone.
Stick De Gea in the Everton team and see how many clean sheets he gets then
You can't have 3 good seasons then phone in the next 9. That kind of performance gets you sacked anywhere else but United.
People citing clean sheets as evidence for a GK performing well have to be taking the piss right?
I think De Gea's been a very good player for us, but he should have been binned 3-4 years ago.
We need to get way better at letting players go when their decline truly sets in.
I think De Gea's been a very good player for us, but he should have been binned 3-4 years ago.
We need to get way better at letting players go when their decline truly sets in.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this was the preferred outcome all along. As little faith as I put in twitter stuff De Gea's twitter post made me wonder if he already had something in motion and the rest of the noise around this was just nonsense.
Great, how does any of this help us going into next season? Last appearance was what? 2015? Insane that you think 8 years of nothingness since then is a good thing, but then again, looking at the way you post, you seem to have some serious anger issues or don't interact much with people outside of the internet so carry on, won't be long before you're banned.
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Are you calling him a snake?
Amazing how deluded people were to think he will stay at United as first choice keeper for next season, when he will get trouble to find a good EPL club interested in him. Some people in De Gea performance thread made proper fools of themselves quoting some dodgy sources and picking stats that put De Gea in good light - despite all the other evidence pointing at the opposite conclusion.
It's always a shame if a long servant leaves the club without proper goodbye and "closure", but I'm actually very happy the club pulled the plug on this one.
It's always a shame if a long servant leaves the club without proper goodbye and "closure", but I'm actually very happy the club pulled the plug on this one.
A goalkeeper can earn a clean sheet without even having to make a save. It’s absolutely not a great metric of how good a goalkeeper is, especially in the top teams with the better defences.
I really want him to leave to the point that him being between the sticks for another season will completely extinguish any hope I have for the season ahead.
I want to stop hating the fact he plays for us, and rather reflect more fondly on the genuinely brilliant goalkeeper he used to be. I can’t take another season of him.
I want to stop hating the fact he plays for us, and rather reflect more fondly on the genuinely brilliant goalkeeper he used to be. I can’t take another season of him.
This is something which will ache for a little bit, not on the fact that he needs to go but that he definitely deserves a send off for years of service and being the only shining light in some really dark and gloomy years. My memory won't be tainted by the blunders (which became more common in the last few years) and I'll remember the last gasp saves when the ball was destined for the top corner. But well, life ain't perfect and only few get to go on their terms in front of a rapturous home crowd. Hope he does get a testimonial and can still grab a spot at a decent European club this summer if he does end up leaving.
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