Sassy Colin
Death or the gladioli!
What about that goal scorer bloke from a few years ago, he should have a statue or something too.
Not a legend yet. When they are done putting statues of all their legends, it may look like a mini- Saint Peter's squareWhat about that goal scorer bloke from a few years ago, he should have a statue or something too.
In fairness, Richard Dunne was up against Nedum Onuoha, not Sergio Aguero. He’s a top player, he’s always been in or around the top 5 in the league. To do that for a decade is a great achievement.I'm still struggling with why everyone seems to rate him so highly. When did he gain this reputation, can someone point me to a spell where he was the best player around?
He has been PL player of the month once.
He has been City's player of the year, their internal award, once. Richard Dunne has won that four times. Where's his statue?
No. It should have been Shaun Goater. If it wasn't for his goals they'd still be in league 1 with no arab money or a free council house.Feels a bit early to be building statues of anybody. If anybody deserves one at some point in the future it probably should be Aguero.
I'm saying that if the best candidate they can think of is someone who was pretty good for ten years and then left without doing anything seriously memorable, they shouldn't be erecting statues yet. Don't make statues just for the sake of having statues, that's a pathetic wannabe move. That's a "we wanna be a big club too!" thing and it's embarrassing for them. Make statues once there are players deserving of them. Celebrating a player with a statue is supposed to mean something more than "I reckon he's been one of our best players since we got bought."So essentially you're saying a club that's never been big can't have statues? (Apart from whether or not Silva in particular deserves one for City.)
What's his name, the guy who was their top scorer in the 3rd tier? He's a proper City legend.Not a legend yet. When they are done putting statues of all their legends, it may look like a mini- Saint Peter's square
Paul Scholes has never won POTY for United. Scholes has also only been in the PL TOTY twice in his career, the same as Silva. Awards aren't always a great example of judging a player or the club they are at - Henderson winning that award this year should tell you that.I'm still struggling with why everyone seems to rate him so highly. When did he gain this reputation, can someone point me to a spell where he was the best player around?
He has been PL player of the month once.
He has been City's player of the year, their internal award, once. Richard Dunne has won that four times. Where's his statue?
One post above yours Colin.What's his name, the guy who was their top scorer in the 3rd tier? He's a proper City legend.
Its not about his talent. A statue is supposed to honor a legend from the past. They are fabricating a history.Yeah can't mock them on this one I'm afraid. Wonderful player.
That makes more sense to me, but previously, you said stuff like 'Normally you erect statues of players who were not only club legends but also legendary figures of the sport as a whole, like captaining their national team or something.' By that logic, a club that never made it big (Bournemouth, say) would never be able to put up a statue. It seems a little arrogant and elitist to me to think that way. I would suggest that, if the player has been particularly important for the history of a club (for whatever reason), then honouring him/her makes sense - with a statue if that's what they like.I'm saying that if the best candidate they can think of is someone who was pretty good for ten years and then left without doing anything seriously memorable, they shouldn't be erecting statues yet. Don't make statues just for the sake of having statues, that's a pathetic wannabe move. That's a "we wanna be a big club too!" thing and it's embarrassing for them. Make statues once there are players deserving of them. Celebrating a player with a statue is supposed to mean something more than "I reckon he's been one of our best players since we got bought."
David Silva is the kind of player that noone except older City fans will think about ten years from now, same category as people like Dzeko or Giroud, one of those players who were good but just never really did anything except loiter somewhere amongst the best ten or twenty players in the league. And while ten years is quite a while to stay at one club in this day and age, it's hardly outstanding. Really, the more I think about it, erecting a statue of David fecking Silva really just says everything that needs to be said about MCFC and their fabric as a club.
It's like if we put up a statue of Michael Carrick.
Imo, no. I think Silva is pretty overrated. It could be my United bias but I doubt it as I think that Aguero and Kompany were better.It makes sense considering their history started in 2008.
Was he that much better than Augero and Kompany?
I think this would have been their best bet , with the inclusion of Yaya. By having just the one player represented it causes issues about which other players deserve one and when at future times, whereas the quartet would be representative of a certain time period and one worth celebrating. There's a statue of Ivor Allchurch outside the liberty, not because of his importance to the footballing world in general but because of his importance to Swansea. The quartert are very important to the history of City.This might get more laughs but instead of having a statue of Silva I think they should have one of Kompany, Silva and Aguero as a trio. They have defined this 'era' for City and have been the players that have been the core for it.
I agree with you on this.Silva and Kompany are getting statues, Aguero’s will be announced when he leaves but he’s getting one too.
Must say, I find the cavalier way people refer to ‘the Arabs’ on the first page disconcerting. Imagine rival fans joking about statues for ‘the Jews’ who own United.
They are Champions League winners, treble winners etc. Silva getting a statue smacks of a club fabricating the richness of their history achieved to push commercial interests. If they win the Champions League and De Bruyne wins the Ballon D'Or that same season then yeah he could one day be entitled to a statue.Such a tinput club, yeah he's been good for them, but you dont see us putting up statues for Vidic and Irwin...
Should only the very best teams in the world be allowed to memorialise a player?They are Champions League winners, treble winners etc. Silva getting a statue smacks of a club fabricating the richness of their history achieved to push commercial interests. If they win the Champions League and De Bruyne wins the Ballon D'Or that same season then yeah he could one day be entitled to a statue.
A more apt example would probably be Owen or Fowler getting a statue at Liverpool as they never won the big one but still had good careers. But to give them a statue would be laughable to Pool fans but Pool fans like Utd fans understand what it would take for a player to deserve a title. Dalglish or Gerrard perhaps but anyone else no chance.
Him celebrating winning the league against QPR is probably fitting of a statue if I’m honest. Surely their biggest moment in club history, right?Feels a bit early to be building statues of anybody. If anybody deserves one at some point in the future it probably should be Aguero.
Silly question, of course not. All teams should be allowed have statues for ex players, and the minimum criteria for a player from a top 4 team in England getting their own statue should be that they won at least 3 league titles, 1 Champions league, and 1 Ballod D'Or. So Cristiano would be the only one from Utd that would qualify, but he lost his chance to get one by demanding a move to Madrid which effectively ruled out that chance.Should only the very best teams in the world be allowed to memorialise a player?
I think it's fair to have certain standards before rewarding a player with a statue, but from the criteria you listed it would exclude someone like Henry at Arsenal and I personally feel his statue is justified. I think it has more to about the competition from within the club. United have such a vast history and a pretty incredible roll call of players that it makes sense for them to have such a high bar. Even in very recent memory you have the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Rooney in the last 10 years who have left, who had they played for another club would very likely be in the discussion to be immortalised in some fashion. It's just that at United there's such insane competition and standards. So I think most other clubs can lower the bar to some extent.Silly question, of course not. All teams should be allowed have statues for ex players, and the minimum criteria for a player from a top 4 team in England getting their own statue should be that they won at least 3 league titles, 1 Champions league, and 1 Ballod D'Or. So Cristiano would be the only one from Utd that would qualify, but he lost his chance to get one by demanding a move to Madrid which effectively ruled out that chance.
If that's was the quota well then Best or Law wouldn't have one.Silly question, of course not. All teams should be allowed have statues for ex players, and the minimum criteria for a player from a top 4 team in England getting their own statue should be that they won at least 3 league titles, 1 Champions league, and 1 Ballod D'Or. So Cristiano would be the only one from Utd that would qualify, but he lost his chance to get one by demanding a move to Madrid which effectively ruled out that chance.
Shaun GoaterOne post above yours Colin.
Good idea and sounds like it's happening...This might get more laughs but instead of having a statue of Silva I think they should have one of Kompany, Silva and Aguero as a trio. They have defined this 'era' for City and have been the players that have been the core for it.