De Gea Contract Situation

[MDFC Manager]

Before we sold our current number one? Not sure that's too clever.

I can already imagine the cries here if that scenario had happened:

"We bought in Lloris for 40m but are only selling DDG for 15m. OMG we're shambles of a club!!!!!!!!!"

"We bought in Lloris for 40m but not sold DDG at all. OMG we're shambles of a club!!!!!!!!!"

 

[mckenzie79]

how this feck are united at fault? any excuse to bash the board, lvg, woodward and the tea lady.

i bet it's the same cnuts who have spent all summer demanding we not give in to real as well. i don't think it takes a huge leap of faith to see what's happened.

we told real all along it's £30m or he stays. i think de gea knew that which is why he wasn't kicking up a stink. he knew the price, obviously thought it was fair and expected real to sort the rest.

real decided to wait, thinking we'd blink first and get rid of him for a lot less as we wouldn't want an unhappy player stinking the place out for a year, especially one we could get some relatively decent cash for. they finally realised we were actually willing to keep him if they didn't bid 30m and gave us what we wanted, we accepted but they couldn't get their own house in order in time to complete it. they've managed to annoy ubited, de gea and navas in one fell swoop.

if any of you honestly think we'd deliberately fax something off to the wrong number or instead of the signed deal we sent fifa a single a4 piece of paper with the outline of ed's wanger on it, then you have a screw loose. no way would we deliberately sabotage it at the last minute. what would we gain out of it? keeping an even more upset de gea, losing £30m, looking like fools and putting any clubs off dealing with us in future in the process?

if you truly believe any of that then give up supporting us as obviously absolute idiots are in charge of the club and we'll soon sell all our players and turn the ground into a sea side pier.

how could we possibly win? sell earlier for a lot less and then moan about the price? sell later for a lower fee and moan about the price and the time lost? all the while moaning at united for being bullied by madrid, "we're just as big, we should stick to our guns and not be pushed about." "bah gawd. we stuck to our guns and fecked it up, we should know have sold for 5m"

blame us for not sorting this two years ago, he should have had two new contracts by now, but this window? i don't think we could have done much more other than not sign romero and get someone better.

Best post in this whole thread, thank you so much!!

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I can already imagine the cries here if that scenario had happened:

"We bought in Lloris for 40m but are only selling DDG for 15m. OMG we're shambles of a club!!!!!!!!!"

"We bought in Lloris for 40m but not sold DDG at all. OMG we're shambles of a club!!!!!!!!!"

It would all be very embarrassing, that's for sure.

 

[Aussie_Red_Devil]

Have you proof that it is they and not we who dithered?

etc etc

The point is, we should have resolved this and it isn't. We have had all summer to sort it out.

They have had all summer to bid

 

[jojojo]

Just looking through the Spanish press. They're saying United and Madrid both submitted their paperwork to FIFA on time, but very late. It's then Madrid's responsibility to submit the documents to La Liga, including documents provided by United - by the time they'd sent them through it was 28 minutes after the midnight deadline.

La Liga have accepted "technical issues" on documents that are a few seconds late in the past (the multipage fax that starts before midnight but completes after it for example) but half an hour is beyond their plausible limit. Even last year they rejected a transfer because the documents were a few minutes late. There doesn't seem to be an equivalent of the English style deal sheet, where a club can send a summary of the deal and say that the rest of the paperwork is on its way.

Madrid think FIFA will ask La Liga to "reconsider" because the failure is damaging to the players and unintended by the clubs. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of some fudge involving simultaneous loans followed by actual registrations in January. What's certain is that it will be an excellent week for the lawyers and their bank balances.

 

[milemuncher777]

If he ends up staying, I'm not going to lie, it's going to take a while to adjust to a player that engineered a move away to that circus in such a sly manner. I might never adjust to having him start games for us, no matter how well he performs.

I'm going to boo him from my living room.

 

[Randall Flagg]

I can already imagine the cries here if that scenario had happened:

"We bought in Lloris for 40m but are only selling DDG for 15m. OMG we're shambles of a club!!!!!!!!!"

"We bought in Lloris for 40m but not sold DDG at all. OMG we're shambles of a club!!!!!!!!!"

I doubt it as anyone who understands how contracts work would get it. Plus we would have an established number one right now

 

[Fergie's Man]

Listening to SSN, there is no way that this deal will go ahead. Talk of an appeal is a nonsense, unless there is a great big bribe involved. :-)

 

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[rimaldo]

So we are saying that Madrid fecked up and sent shit 28 minutes after the deadline - now why would they do that?

that's apparently what they are admitting, yes. something to do with navas. feck knows. maybe they could be incompetent for a change and not us?

 

[Earthquake]

It would all be very embarrassing, that's for sure.

Is anything Man Utd do any more not embarrassing?

They're basically the fuddy duddy dad of clubs now....

 

[Catt]

It has been reported that Van Gaal, THE UNITED MANAGER, wanted Navas as part of the deal.

Cappeesh?

You're having a mare Dan.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Can someone reply to my earlier question?
How much of a role FIFA has in the whole thing? Is it limited to advising LFP on what is fair and what is not

 

[kotha]

Wtf do they mean by Madrid not even sending his papers.. Have they stringed us along? Hope DDG sees through them and signs an extension out of spite.. (Yes I realize I am being an optimist)

 

[MDFC Manager]

They didn't submit the documents at all? This is beyond hilarious

 

[Ainu]

No, I am saying I wouldn't have complained about it as I would have expected it.

No, you were complaining we didn't resolve it earlier, and that was your response when someone asked if we should've just lowered our valuation of him. So you're actually using both the fact that we "generally do that anyway" and the fact we didn't do it in this instance to spite the club.

 

[Randall Flagg]

They didn't submit the documents at all? This is beyond hilarious

Not for Utd it isnt

Its a total cluster feck. I dont really care whose fault it is but right now we have a total mess in a very important positon

 

[milemuncher777]

They didn't submit the documents at all? This is beyond hilarious

Maybe talk of them not able to open the documents are true then

 

[JON.B]

He was always available for the right deal. So you say United are to blame for Real pissing about until the final day of the window? Go figure that.... Some people

I'm saying why put yourself in a position for that situation to happen in the first place. Let's face it, it was obvious that Real would leave it to the last minute to do the deal because they knew, despite the club being vocal about being happy to let him leave on a free they would much rather get a fee for him. As soon as he was dropped by the manager that was the sign that the club wanted him gone. The club are at fault for his contract running out and not renewing it sooner.

 

[Lewis.no.9]

perhaps all this bollocks will make De Gea flex, rip off his jacket, call Mendes a twat and fire him. Tell his blonde bimbo GF to suck it up and either move to Manchester or feck off and replace her with Hayley Mcqueen and most importantly tell Madrid to take their late and limp offer that cant even get over the line, and shove it up Perez's vagina.

 

[Sunny Jim]

Listening to SSN, there is no way that this deal will go ahead. Talk of an appeal is a nonsense, unless there is a great big bribe involved. :-)

So its pretty much done dealio.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Not for Utd it isnt

Its a total cluster feck. I dont really care whose fault it is but right now we have a total mess in a very important positon

De Gea is still under contract to MUFC. Its not a mess for us at all.

 

[JPRouve]

Can someone reply to my earlier question?
How much of a role FIFA has in the whole thing? Is it limited to advising LFP on what is fair and what is not

It's a big role, FIFA are the one registering transfers, the LFP register the transfer locally and then send it to the FIFA.

 

[Jed I. Knight]

This is the most ridiculous transfer of all time!

 

[Randall Flagg]

De Gea is still under contract to MUFC. Its not a mess for us at all.

So a player unable to play so far this season because his head was turned doesnt get his dream move at the last moment and now is forced back to the club itsnt a mess?

 

[Dans]

Of course it is

We should have bought a number one keeper weeks ago.

Precisely.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Not for Utd it isnt

Its a total cluster feck. I dont really care whose fault it is but right now we have a total mess in a very important positon

meh... i think the fact it is madrids fault will at least let us say to De Gea look we did our bit.... its now time to buckle down.

and to be honest i'd rather have another season of De Gea( even an angry one) the second best keeper in the world last season, then Navas, the second best keeper at madrid last year.

least this way we can spend some time trying to find a guy who is good enough for Number 1 Jersey next season.

 

[Dans]

Re-read the post you quoted.

If the penny still hasn't dropped, you might need to get an adult to explain it to you.

It becomes very hard not to criticise the poster in your case Pogue.

 

[Sunny Jim]

If we keep him for a season and this bellend of manager plays him i would be very happy. With possible tranfer ban for Madrid we may have him for another season (gentelmens agreement of some sort)

 

[MDFC Manager]

So a player unable to play so far this season because his head was turned doesnt get his dream move at the last moment and now is forced back to the club itsnt a mess?

IMO, no. He'll have to get back his focus quickly if he wants to feature in Euro 2016.

 

[sglowrider]

Just looking through the Spanish press. They're saying United and Madrid both submitted their paperwork to FIFA on time, but very late. It's then Madrid's responsibility to submit the documents to La Liga, including documents provided by United - by the time they'd sent them through it was 28 minutes after the midnight deadline.

La Liga have accepted "technical issues" on documents that are a few seconds late in the past (the multipage fax that starts before midnight but completes after it for example) but half an hour is beyond their plausible limit. Even last year they rejected a transfer because the documents were a few minutes late. There doesn't seem to be an equivalent of the English style deal sheet, where a club can send a summary of the deal and say that the rest of the paperwork is on its way.

Madrid think FIFA will ask La Liga to "reconsider" because the failure is damaging to the players and unintended by the clubs. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of some fudge involving simultaneous loans followed by actual registrations in January. What's certain is that it will be an excellent week for the lawyers and their bank balances.

Have these people not heard of pdf and emails? I guess it make sense since they aren't believers of technology including goal-line technologies.

Its 2015 and football clubs must be the only people/organisations buying/using fax machines around the world.

They must have a specialist within each organisation who's job is solely to source for fax machines ... calling far flung countries like Gambia or Nepal for the last few fax machines in the respective countries. (You won't expect the ink cartridges or thermal paper machines itself to last long -- after all, its used only twice a year.)

 

[Americano]

From where I'm sitting, this messy situation shows how little Madrid cared about completing this deal. De Gea should question how much they really want him. Perez came in late, did not bid strong, and did not make it a priority to put the deal through.

 

[Randall Flagg]

IMO, no. He'll have to get back his focus quickly if he wants to feature in Euro 2016.

Its far more likely he will just sign for them in January

 

[Trigg]

De Gea is still under contract to MUFC. Its not a mess for us at all.

For 12 months. He's not played this season as of yet, his head is in Madrid. You think he can perform at United for 12 months before he fecks off to Spain on a free transfer?

The De Gea situation is a massive feck up for the club. Starting with not tying him down with a contract sooner to not selling him when the writing was on the wall about 3 months ago.

 

[Fergie's Man]

So its pretty much done dealio.

I look forward to seeing what happens with this. Personally, I don't want De Gea now.

 

[steeeb]

I'd just love it if it all goes through but the issue is he can't be registered to play for Madrid until the next window. I'd fecking love it.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Have these people not heard of pdf and emails? I guess it make sense since their aren't believers of technology including goal-line technologies.

Its 2015 and football clubs be the only people buying fax machines around the world. They must have a specialist within each organisation who's job is solely to source for fax machines ... calling far flung countries like Gambia or Nepal for the last few fax machines in the respective countries. (You won't expect the ink cartridges or thermal paper machines itself to last long -- after all, its used only twice a year.)

Fax machines are still the only way to guarantee a time stamp hasn't been tampered with. Strange I know, but it's why they still use them.

 

[Dans]

that's apparently what they are admitting, yes. something to do with navas. feck knows. maybe they could be incompetent for a change and not us?

I haven't said they weren't incompetent. I have said both teams have botched a situation that should have been easily resolved but has become a big game of who's got the biggest cock.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

So a player unable to play so far this season because his head was turned doesnt get his dream move at the last moment and now is forced back to the club itsnt a mess?

why he is unable to play for us?

you think he is gonna want to sit on the bench for a year? weve got the Euros in the summer he is gonna want to be spains number one.... and he will have to play to do that.

 

[steeeb]

For 12 months. He's not played this season as of yet, his head is in Madrid. You think he can perform at United for 12 months before he fecks off to Spain on a free transfer?

The De Gea situation is a massive feck up for the club. Starting with not tying him down with a contract sooner to not selling him when the writing was on the wall about 3 months ago.

Ahh, yeah - that sensible bid that came in 3 months ago? Or the sensible bid that came in yesterday and Madrid fecked it up at the end rushing it through not sorting it 3 months ago...