mu4c_20le
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He kept it a one goal game in the first half
Think West Ham have been pricing him out of a move anyway to be honest. I'd take him, but not for £100m or such figures touted previously. In an ideal world he'd run his contract down which expires in '25 and we'd nab him on a free as Casemiro enters his final year. West Ham will ultimately sell for less some before then though. Think he'd be a fine signing for most top 7 clubs for the right price. Will probably end up at his boyhood club Chelsea, unless he gets tempted by Newcastle maybe. Arsenal and Liverpool might be interested but he'll pick Chelsea over them. Kante replacement.Good player. Ship has probably sailed for us though after signing Casemiro.
I can’t tell if that’s a compliment or not.That was probably the best I've ever seen him.
Yeah I agree with this, he's a decent player don't get me wrong but he's pretty limited and fail to impress me every time I watch him.Surprised to see the comments here, I thought he was very average, even against a tired United midfield. English tax for the fee aside, he looked like a player whose ceiling is West Ham. Even without Casemiro it would feel like under Ole when we bought Wan Bissaka and Maguire, just to have an English core. Do not want, let Chelsea pay the premium fee West Ham will ask for.
Not to mention many defensive minded players have looked a lot better than they are under Moyes' compact underdog system.Yeah I agree with this, he's a decent player don't get me wrong but he's pretty limited and fail to impress me every time I watch him.
He does look pretty good for England as well. And they're not a defensive... Nevermind.Not to mention many defensive minded players have looked a lot better than they are under Moyes' compact underdog system.
Lescott, Jagielka, Gravesen, Hibbert prime examples.
I cant see Liverpool spending £100 mill for RiceThought he was brilliant today and can see him in a Chelsea or Liverpool shirt for Henderson
Not sure they'll need to.....I cant see Liverpool spending £100 mill for Rice
This is always the tricky part of picking up players from teams that play completely differently to how you want to play. Maguire is slow but thats OK if you are sitting deep and playing on the counter like Leicester. AwB is a very good tackler which is great if you are under pressure all game and want to nullify wingers. Not so great if you want to play more expressive football.Reckon he's a player who suits a team that plays on the back foot, where he can sit back a bit clearing up danger and not having to do much else.
Put him a team where he needs to play forward and dictate tempo aswell and I don't think he has the ability. The contrast with him and Casemiro was there for all to see.
Yep, and it's why his only way out of that club is to run his contract down.He's a good player and really good at nipping infront of players and cutting out attacks. The only problem is he's worth far more to West Ham than he'd be worth to buy for. Same problem that many players at similar clubs have, e.g Barnes, Maddison, Zaha.
It's why I laugh when people make Harry Kane a victim of his trophyless career.He's a good player and really good at nipping infront of players and cutting out attacks. The only problem is he's worth far more to West Ham than he'd be worth to buy for. Same problem that many players at similar clubs have, e.g Barnes, Maddison, Zaha.
I think it is partly due to his position. Unless people play as a deep lying player maker in that furthest back CM role it is hard to really get a highlight reel which is why some stat and highlight obsessed people will instantly go, 'he is crap' 'look at x, y or z' stat or 'what does he do well, I haven't seen it'.Has there ever been a player that gets such mixed reviews? Literally the last page is 50/50 of he was rubbish today/brilliant today and he would be great for us/waste of money etc.
And its every time hes mentioned.
He didn't dominate anything.I’m getting very sick of watching him absolutely dominate our midfield on his own. Every single time.
Absolute rubbish. We were in complete control of the midfield until about 75 minutes in. People just see what they want to see when they rate a player.I’m getting very sick of watching him absolutely dominate our midfield on his own. Every single time.
It's a media narrative people have fully bought into without watching his game closely, and because he's English. That lad at Brighton is better than Rice but you don't hear much about him of course.Absolute rubbish. We were in complete control of the midfield until about 75 minutes in. People just see what they want to see when they rate a player.
Or it’s not and you’re talking absolute nonsense. Rice was cutting us out when we got forwards for fun yesterday (as evidenced by Bruno’s shocker) and when Eriksen started to tire he took complete control of the game.It's a media narrative people have fully bought into without watching his game closely, and because he's English. That lad at Brighton is better than Rice but you don't hear much about him of course.
Anyone can run around and break up play, those players are ten a penny in most leagues, where it counts he offers nothing of note, look at his stats, watch him for more than the time he’s on the ball or putting a tackle in.Or it’s not and you’re talking absolute nonsense. Rice was cutting us out when we got forwards for fun yesterday (as evidenced by Bruno’s shocker) and when Eriksen started to tire he took complete control of the game.
That doesn’t suit the English = shit narrative folk love to peddle though, does it.
My word you’re clueless. I mean I knew that already, but yeesh.Anyone can run around and break up play, those players are ten a penny in most leagues, where it counts he offers nothing of note, look at his stats, watch him for more than the time he’s on the ball or putting a tackle in.
If he’s as good as you say he is, and he ‘dominates’ then why is he ‘dominating’ at West Ham? Surely a midfielder that ‘dominates’ top 6 sides would play for a top 6 side no? Even at £100m that’s a steal.
He’s limited, he’s just a better version of McTomminay.
Ah yes, the stats are shit but it's the eye test that really counts. Got it.My word you’re clueless. I mean I knew that already, but yeesh.
I’ve watched him on and off the ball every time he’s come up here, and on the rare occasions West Ham games don’t clash with our own, and his off the ball play is even better than his very good on the ball play. If his name was Dominico Ricci he’d be the most sought after player on this site, bar none.
The eye test is far superior than whatever contextless stats you want to pretend show him as not being good, and it shows time and again that you’re wrong.
It's sort of moot anyway cause Rice always fails the eye test.Ah yes, the stats are shit but it's the eye test that really counts. Got it.
You hear that Messi? Put all your trophies in the bin.
I tried to argue that point but he's dominating everyone at West Ham apparently so maybe I'm missing something?It's sort of moot anyway cause Rice always fails the eye test.
You have to be the most clueless poster on the CAF. Wasn't you that said Osimhem is shit and is nothing to write home about?I’m getting very sick of watching him absolutely dominate our midfield on his own. Every single time.
Weird to use the player who best passes the eye test as an example that the eye test doesn’t work. Almost like you’re utterly clueless, again.Ah yes, the stats are shit but it's the eye test that really counts. Got it.
You hear that Messi? Put all your trophies in the bin.
You really don’t understand the phrase “nothing to write home about”, do you? If you think it means someone/something is shit then you might want to look it up.You have to be the most clueless poster on the CAF. Wasn't you that said Osimhem is shit and is nothing to write home about?
Rice dominatng our midfield You must be blind too in addition to your cluelessness