Phenomenal work before that offside goal.
'Der Klassiker' : Bayern München vs. Borussia Dortmund
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Agreed. He kicked it to his right, ran straight and then dragged his left foot.
No need to be so cautious. After the last 2 times, doubt we will touch any of yours for a long while.
Great match. Have to say I envy you guy that up or down, your team is still committed to entertainment.
Daaaamn why did i miss the second half 
Reus is such a tragic figure. He was the 4th best player on the planet going into the WC in 2014, then he suffers a catastrophic injury in the last friendly, misses out on his career defining tournament(potentially with a Ballon D'Or at the end of the year too), then enters injury hell and at 28 is a shell of his former self...
Reus is such a tragic figure. He was the 4th best player on the planet going into the WC in 2014, then he suffers a catastrophic injury in the last friendly, misses out on his career defining tournament(potentially with a Ballon D'Or at the end of the year too), then enters injury hell and at 28 is a shell of his former self...
Remember when Reus was murdering Real Madrid at home in the CL in 2014? It was in the knockout stage, 2nd leg, after having lost 3-0 away at Real. Mkhitaryan missed like 3 sitters.Daaaamn why did i miss the second half
Reus is such a tragic figure. He was the 4th best player on the planet going into the WC in 2014, then he suffers a catastrophic injury in the last friendly, misses out on his career defining tournament(potentially with a Ballon D'Or at the end of the year too), then enters injury hell and at 28 is a shell of his former self...
I do. Reus has always torn us apart. Even two seasons ago. In that tie he tore us apart both legs. Just in the first we run them off the pitch, they were missing more than half their team and missed all of their sitters, while we only missed most of ours and won 3-0. Second leg...woof. Reus was the best player in the whole tie.Remember when Reus was murdering Real Madrid at home in the CL in 2014? It was in the knockout stage, 2nd leg, after having lost 3-0 away at Real. Mkhitaryan missed like 3 sitters.
At one point i was convinced Hummels had donned a BVB shirt and continued for them, farewell-match style. I don't even know which player i mistook for him there
#FavreIN?Imagine if we attacked like Dortmund
I suggested him as successor to van Gaal, but oddly Ed didn't listen to me.
Good post. And if you guys keep building top squads then some day you really could become an elite club for yourself. But the last few seasons were some stepbacks, especially with overpriced transfers like Schürrle and, unfortunately, Götze. With Schürrle every fan knew he would fail big time. Everyone knew it. And still you paid so much that Wolfsburgs management was probably thanking you with tears in their eyes (not only because VW got busted
). If you make big transfers, they need to be on point. Witsel seems to be exactly that (wage-wise). With talents and cheaper investments its okay to fail. If you buy 5 talents and only 1 of them is going to be a star, you did great. You guys need to be smart to become big.The baffling thing is that Bayern's officials claim to have played a very good match despite losing 2:3 with Bayern being very efficient and Dortmund being very wasteful.
Also kudos to Hummels for talking about how he was sick and unfit to play, offering further ammunition against Kovac just for the fun of it.
Also kudos to Hummels for talking about how he was sick and unfit to play, offering further ammunition against Kovac just for the fun of it.
Such a weird game from him today. Missing two sitters and a half chance. Scoring the/a penality is like whatever, but then he just scores with a world class finish as if nothing happened.
Delightful but expected result. I love seeing Dortmund doing well as they're the underdog.
Only caught the highlights, how was Kimmich not offside for Lewandowski's 2nd goal? Madness.
Only caught the highlights, how was Kimmich not offside for Lewandowski's 2nd goal? Madness.
Amazing interview of him after the game...."Männergrippe"At one point i was convinced Hummels had donned a BVB shirt and continued for them, farewell-match style. I don't even know which player i mistook for him there
Good post mate. Some will never stop the dick waving on here about the richest clubs being the be all and end all of football.
Best game I've seen this season, end to end entertainment, could have went either way. Bayern swarmed Dortmund in the first half and were well worth their lead. Dortmund started the 2nd half well and got level but I thought they might wilt when Bayern went back in front almost straight away.
I was sure VAR was going to show Alcacer was offside given the acres of space he was in for the winner, but no, he was onside and his finish was as cool as you'll see, he's in great form. The other standout moment for me was Kimmich's assist for Lewandowski's second, such a deft little ball amidst the goalmouth chaos. Witsel, Hakimi and Sancho were the star men for Dortmund IMO, while Ribery was brilliant for Bayern.
I was sure VAR was going to show Alcacer was offside given the acres of space he was in for the winner, but no, he was onside and his finish was as cool as you'll see, he's in great form. The other standout moment for me was Kimmich's assist for Lewandowski's second, such a deft little ball amidst the goalmouth chaos. Witsel, Hakimi and Sancho were the star men for Dortmund IMO, while Ribery was brilliant for Bayern.
Great game of football really.
Makes me want to make the trip to Dortmund to watch a game there.
Makes me want to make the trip to Dortmund to watch a game there.
What happened to Reus before the 2014 WC was thoroughly a tragic situation for Reus himself and every football fan who wanted to see him at the WC.Daaaamn why did i miss the second half
Reus is such a tragic figure. He was the 4th best player on the planet going into the WC in 2014, then he suffers a catastrophic injury in the last friendly, misses out on his career defining tournament(potentially with a Ballon D'Or at the end of the year too), then enters injury hell and at 28 is a shell of his former self...
He ain't the player now he was then as long term injuries do take their toll, but he is still a superb player and a joy to watch.
You are right, he is not the same player anymore. He is objectively better now.
Don´t get me wrong, the Reus of 2010-2014 was a menance in the final third of the pitch: explosive dribbling, two footed, incredible shooting technique, good finishing, smart running paths and a threat with free kicks. He averaged a goal or assist every 75 minutes in the 2013/2014 season (his best season before his injuries), a crazy stat which can only be described as world class.
This season Reus stands at 11 goals and 7 assists in around 1.400 minutes, which results in an average of 81 minutes, statistically a tad worse but if we take into account that he plays far more games over the whole distance now (he was often subbed off by Klopp after around 60-70 minutes back then), which inflates the stat a bit, there is no real difference in his scoring abilites. He also retained all of his above mentioned strengths bar his ability as FK taker, which did regress.
Instead of losing things over the last few years, he actually became stronger in other areas. In terms of defensive contribution he operates in a completely different league right now: interceptions, clearances, tackles, pressing, general defensive movement. All of it improved. His area of influence also grew a lot. He is far less restricted to the final third than he used to be. He drops deeper and operates with more width now. He is constantly on the move, initiating combination and offering himself as constant link up partner (especially this part helps our young wingers a lot). I don´t have the stat at hand, but I would be very surprised if the number of his pre assists did not grew a lot.
To put it simple, Reus is a far more well rounded offensive midfielder now, taking over more duties as play maker on top of his abilites as scoring machine. This is also the reason why he plays so many minutes. He evolved from a great attacking asset into the heart of the offense. Then there is of course his development as personality from a somewhat shy and quiet player into a confident undisputed leader of the team.
If I would have to choose between the Reus of 2014 and the one of 2018, i would pick the latter in a heart beat. Everything else would just be notalgica.
Scored a lovely goal today, currently has 6 goals & 3 assists in 10 Bundesliga games and has captained his side to the top of the table with some cracking performances this year. His performances in the cups/CL have been of similar standard and output.
Safe to say then that the above post is really strangely timed, is it simply based on him missing a couple of great chances today
that Alcacer goal...Rashford would have blasted it at the keeper's legs
I thought the same thing, such a lovely calm finish.that Alcacer goal...Rashford would have blasted it at the keeper's legs
Expect Kovacs to get fired soon.
His squad doesnt have the athleticism to play the way he wants, and he hasnt been able to adapt his tactics to his squad. Unfortunately, doubt he has any significant say in transfers
Playing a high line with a fast tempo against BVB's youth was essentially suicidal. A team like that should be playing at the slowest pace possible, relying on their experience and tactical nous to wear down the opposition
His squad doesnt have the athleticism to play the way he wants, and he hasnt been able to adapt his tactics to his squad. Unfortunately, doubt he has any significant say in transfers
Playing a high line with a fast tempo against BVB's youth was essentially suicidal. A team like that should be playing at the slowest pace possible, relying on their experience and tactical nous to wear down the opposition
Feck me the horrors of seeing rashers going 1 on 1 these days.. never finishes thosethat Alcacer goal...Rashford would have blasted it at the keeper's legs
Not sure about him being fired but yea I thought the high line they had while they were drawing was absolutely ridiculous. A draw away to Dortmund would've been a fantastic result, in the context of both teams form, so to still play such a high line while still being level was naive.
And that does not even take into consideration how brilliant Dortmund are on the counter and that high line plays exactly into their hands.
Really bad game management from Kovac.
Yes! Fckin Yes!
March! March, my Yellow & Black boys, to Victory!
Watching Bayern in total meltdown is even better than Real's meltdown. How I dislike the mafia cnut Hoeness...
March! March, my Yellow & Black boys, to Victory!
Watching Bayern in total meltdown is even better than Real's meltdown. How I dislike the mafia cnut Hoeness...
Kovac is tactically out of his depth and seems to randomize the lineups.
There are two midfielders, who can pass the ball - Thiago and James. A midfield of Javi, Müller and Goretzka is just not acceptable for any team, that wants to keep possession of the ball. Thiago and James not playing means, that Ribery has to be the main playmaker again. He was very good last night, but relying on a 35 year old to do all the work is just stupid. Both wings and Lewandowski did well, but the rest of the team is just not good enough anymore/at the moment.
Neuer, Boateng, Hummels, Javi, Müller and Goretzka just couldn't match Dortmund once they ramped up pressure. According to kicker.de Müller won 0% (!) of his duels/tackles. I don't know if that is actually true, but he was horrible again. Goretzka started well, but was totally out of his depth in the second half. All the injuries also took something out of Martinez. Hummels made various terrible mistakes; him being not fit, but starting over Süle is just the icing on the cake. Boateng was defensively okay, but his passing was off.
This game could have ended differently, but only because Dortmund missed at least three sitters, while Weigl had a stinker in the first half.
People who deserve to stay in Munich: Kimmich, Neuer, Süle, Lewandowski, Alaba. I wouldn't mind it if everyone else leaves at the end of the season, including manager and management.
There are two midfielders, who can pass the ball - Thiago and James. A midfield of Javi, Müller and Goretzka is just not acceptable for any team, that wants to keep possession of the ball. Thiago and James not playing means, that Ribery has to be the main playmaker again. He was very good last night, but relying on a 35 year old to do all the work is just stupid. Both wings and Lewandowski did well, but the rest of the team is just not good enough anymore/at the moment.
Neuer, Boateng, Hummels, Javi, Müller and Goretzka just couldn't match Dortmund once they ramped up pressure. According to kicker.de Müller won 0% (!) of his duels/tackles. I don't know if that is actually true, but he was horrible again. Goretzka started well, but was totally out of his depth in the second half. All the injuries also took something out of Martinez. Hummels made various terrible mistakes; him being not fit, but starting over Süle is just the icing on the cake. Boateng was defensively okay, but his passing was off.
This game could have ended differently, but only because Dortmund missed at least three sitters, while Weigl had a stinker in the first half.
People who deserve to stay in Munich: Kimmich, Neuer, Süle, Lewandowski, Alaba. I wouldn't mind it if everyone else leaves at the end of the season, including manager and management.
It's based on the fact that he was germany's best player going into a world cup where germany were massive favourites(and eventually won), as i said, with his form going into the tournament and germany's strength, he could have easily come away with the WC, the WC best player, and possibly the ballon d'orScored a lovely goal today, currently has 6 goals & 3 assists in 10 Bundesliga games and has captained his side to the top of the table with some cracking performances this year. His performances in the cups/CL have been of similar standard and output.
Safe to say then that the above post is really strangely timed, is it simply based on him missing a couple of great chances today
That, plus admittedly i haven't seen much of him this season so was going more on what he'd been doing until last season
and the constant injuriesThis was such a thoroughly brilliant game to watch, so glad I saw it instead of Palace/Spurs.
Second half was wild. First half a bit disappointing.
Dortmund had a defender out of the field so he counted as their last man.
They have Süle and it seems they are getting Parvard. Though the latter has been rather underwhelming this season.
I don't think and never thought that Kovac has what it takes to coach Bayern, but:
Ulreich
Rafinha
James
Will
Süle
Sanches
Wagner
It's not like Kovac is spoiled for choice at the moment, especially if we believe the media reports which say that James was basically suspended for the match due to disciplinary sanctions.
The way Hummels threw Kovac under the bus to justify his own "performance" was pathetic and despicable imho and I would neither take it at face value, nor would I say that his inclusion ahead of Süle cost Bayern the match, since Bayern was still leading 2-1 (Dortmund's goal mainly being a feck-up by Neuer) by the time he left the pitch.
Alcacer is 5 years older than Rashford. There is huge development between 20-25. Great finish though, aye.that Alcacer goal...Rashford would have blasted it at the keeper's legs
Just 2 more days to one of the most exciting Klassikers for years!
This could be the deciding game of the season for the Bundesliga championship. Right now BVB is 2 points ahead of Bayern, if BVB somehow manages to get 3 points in the Allianz Arena the title race could be decided. If Bayern wins they are 1 point ahead and everything is still open but then they have it in their own hands.
This could be the deciding game of the season for the Bundesliga championship. Right now BVB is 2 points ahead of Bayern, if BVB somehow manages to get 3 points in the Allianz Arena the title race could be decided. If Bayern wins they are 1 point ahead and everything is still open but then they have it in their own hands.
This on Saturday?
Can we please ditch that embarassing "Klassiker/Clasico" nonsense for good? stupid marketing label is stupid. I heard "el germanico" today, which i liked better
Fully agree..Can we please ditch that embarassing "Klassiker/Clasico" nonsense for good? stupid marketing label is stupid. I heard "el germanico" today, which i liked better
Classico isnt this match.
Austro-Prussian war memorial matchCan we please ditch that embarassing "Klassiker/Clasico" nonsense for good? stupid marketing label is stupid. I heard "el germanico" today, which i liked better
Using a Spanish name for a German rivalry is just as cringeworthy.Can we please ditch that embarassing "Klassiker/Clasico" nonsense for good? stupid marketing label is stupid. I heard "el germanico" today, which i liked better