what about Coutinho?
Overpriced.
what about Coutinho?
Ronaldo is 33. Pogba's value in the market must be pushing £200m.110m is fair, Ronaldo went for 100m.
Feck me, that has escalated badly
Regardless, Pogba is a grown man who agreed with his agent. It's not as if Raiola was holding a gun to his head.My point is Pogba could've been indifferent and Raiola pushed him over the edge to convince him to move.
Think it's the opposite and rather brilliant and dastardly from them. Why should they care about our window closing? Our need for a replacement doesn't predicate the sale if they can cause enough friction. They could well be playing the mid to long-term game here in destabilising the player and the club with a thousand cuts until he's untenable and we want rid. At worst, it messes with the player and they don't get him; at best, they get what they want for a cut price (once the turmoil is fully established).
If Pogba decides to act up for the remainder of the European window, we have a big problem going forward that will filter through an already unsettled team/club and makes us look bad on a number of fronts whilst damaging our brand/name and making us even more unappealing to truly elite talent.
When Barca tried this with PSG, they got crushed and humiliated - and in the process, PSG sent out a message to the footballing world at large. What will we do in this scenario and how will we prevent the circus that is coming our way over the next few windows, should Pogba not go during this one?
This is a pivotal point for the club on a number of fronts and it's not just about warding them off once, but making it clear we're not prey to be targeted.
We are nobodies prey, we have all the cards and will refuse to do any business that will negatively affect us. We aren't a lowly club who needs to sell players.
Only an oil club can put a £200m asset on ice. We're a business who cannot afford to fritter away 10's of millions of pounds playing silly games. Not only that, Pogba is our biggest player and the football world will be watching how we handle ourselves, that goes for potential future purchases, too.Seriously, if Raiola and Pogba are angling for a move I'd be inclined to stick him in the reserves until his contract runs out. See how much of a payday they get in 4 years after he's completely ruined.
What Raiola quotes?
I'm with you on that hope, it's just a case of seeing out the storm right now, and we always knew that getting in bed with Raiola was dangerous business.Probably not. Regardless of any interest Pogba is going nowhere. His agent is touting him around sure, but we will not sell him. I am pretty confident that Jose will be gone this time next summer when everybody has had enough of his bollocks. Hopefully that would mean the likes of Martial and Pogba will re-evaluate any intention of leaving knowing he is out of the picture.
If Jose wins the league this year then my plan is seriously fecked
Is it possible Barca did this because we potentially messed them around on Mina? It seems convenient that those rumours died and now Mina is being linked with Lyon and Everton, and now they bid for Pogba from nowhere.
These ones.
Regardless, Pogba is a grown man who agreed with his agent. It's not as if Raiola was holding a gun to his head.
Ronaldo is 33 though.110m is fair, Ronaldo went for 100m.
You dare to under-estimate the powers of a salesman and an agent (who is assumed to be a well-wisher)Regardless, Pogba is a grown man who agreed with his agent. It's not as if Raiola was holding a gun to his head.
Why do you think Pogba gives two shits about what the media says about his feelings, hair etc?What about the unsettling of our players? If Pogba doesn’t play well in his first game this season, the vultures in SkySports would quickly say he’s not happy at United & he wants out of the club.
If Pogba puts anything red/blue on his hair, the media will link him to Barca almost instantly. How doesn’t this make us preys? You said we aren’t a lowly club but it was only a fax machine that prevented De Gea from going to La Liga.
Wake up & smell the coffee, please.....
Depends on their end-game. Also depends on what they're willing to part with - people are mentioning their top players, but that's a dangerous game for them to play as that could cause disruption in their own camp, which is obviously not their objective. If, ultimately, it's money this comes down to, then unsettling the player and actually have him perform below his level before making their true bids is incredibly smart.The fact is that almost certainly they won't get him at this point in time. We simply can't put ourselves in the position to lose him without replacement. So, true, most likely and only to destabilize him, but why such a derogatory offer along the way. Put something decent, worth at least thinking for a second, not this.
Doing business this way (such an offer, so little by the end of the window looking from our perspective which they should count also) will in most cases bring anger on the part you're willing to make a deal to the point that such part is going to try and get one of your players like PSG did or at least refuse to make any kind of deal with you if forced to sell. And try to sell him somewhere else.
The point is that they could destabilize him while not pissing us in the process. Or at least, I hope they pissed the board with an offer like this. If not, we're fecked either way.
Pogba strikes me as very impressionable, especially if he's working with a strong minded agent who is constantly proposing things to him. Raiola strikes me as a snake who will try to get his players to move as often as possible so he can collect his portion of the transfer fees. Not a good combination.
I’ll potentially be a bit controversial here.
My biggest worry about losing pogba is there’s so little out there to replace him with. I do want him to stay.
On the flip side, I genuinely haven’t seen enough from him on a consistent basis to make me feel he is as good as his price tag would suggest? All this talk about us not getting the best out of him etc, is that just a smokescreen?
Is he up there with a peak Gerrard, lampard, Zidane, Figo etc? Or can he single handedly win a match the same way bale or Ronaldo or Messi can?
I don’t even know if the sky story is just more of their speculation. What’s happened to our imminent moves for macguire and Mina? I think they just make it up
I can guarantee you there won't be any riots.There will be fecking riots if Thursday comes with no new players and Pogba on the verge of leaving.
Fecking hell, id be happy if we appointed a DoF so we can get our shit together everything seems so fecked at the moment.
Pogba strikes me as very impressionable, especially if he's working with a strong minded agent who is constantly proposing things to him. Raiola strikes me as a snake who will try to get his players to move as often as possible so he can collect his portion of the transfer fees. Not a good combination.
More nonsense, can the media get any worse in its attempt to undermine this football club. I honestly don't know how they get away with it....
First of all you don't if Pogba asked to leave. Second, graveyard of a club. Seriously?Several problems with this:
1. Pogba obviously requested the move not his agent.
2. Barcelona obviously do not respect us as a club with that offer. It's insulting.
3. There was obviously truth behind Pogba to City via Pep's comments in January, again very disrespectful from Pogba this time.
4. Proves no world class stars want to come to this graveyard of a club unless we pay them feck loads of money they are greedy enough to take it (Sanchez).
5. If we some how manage to sell Pogba for what he's worth we will get taking to the cleaners for a replacement once every club sees the money we got. Imagine spending £100m on someone overrated like SMS.
We're fecked as a club, seriously. It's just depressing being an United fan these days. All the money in the world and we're still going backwards.
Why in the world would Alba ever leave Barcelona?
Stop playing FM.
Ronaldo is 33 though.
Barca spent more than 110m in Coutinho and Dembele. Pogba is better than both, in addition to having more commercial value.
It should be a Neymar-like fee for us to even reply to their email.
How about Dembele?Overpriced.
Several problems with this:
1. Pogba obviously requested the move not his agent.
2. Barcelona obviously do not respect us as a club with that offer. It's insulting.
3. There was obviously truth behind Pogba to City via Pep's comments in January, again very disrespectful from Pogba this time.
4. Proves no world class stars want to come to this graveyard of a club unless we pay them feck loads of money they are greedy enough to take it (Sanchez).
5. If we some how manage to sell Pogba for what he's worth we will get taking to the cleaners for a replacement once every club sees the money we got. Imagine spending £100m on someone overrated like SMS.
We're fecked as a club, seriously. It's just depressing being an United fan these days. All the money in the world and we're still going backwards.
How about Dembele?
So many unfounded 'obviouslys'Several problems with this:
1. Pogba obviously requested the move not his agent.
2. Barcelona obviously do not respect us as a club with that offer. It's insulting.
3. There was obviously truth behind Pogba to City via Pep's comments in January, again very disrespectful from Pogba this time.
4. Proves no world class stars want to come to this graveyard of a club unless we pay them feck loads of money they are greedy enough to take it (Sanchez).
5. If we some how manage to sell Pogba for what he's worth we will get taking to the cleaners for a replacement once every club sees the money we got. Imagine spending £100m on someone overrated like SMS.
We're fecked as a club, seriously. It's just depressing being an United fan these days. All the money in the world and we're still going backwards.
Di marzio is pretty reliable mate.
These ones.
I'm with you on that hope, it's just a case of seeing out the storm right now, and we always knew that getting in bed with Raiola was dangerous business.