Given that I have not condoned Costa for anything, I will go with you drawing a poor conclusion...in addition to spinning for the cretin that is Pepe
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Given that I have not condoned Costa for anything, I will go with you drawing a poor conclusion...in addition to spinning for the cretin that is Pepe
My bad.. I thought responding to me talking about how dirty Costa was with picture of how Pepe reacted was your way of showing that Pepe got what he deserved. Why don't you enlighten me with what you meant with all those pics so that I don't draw poor conclusions in the future?
Also, I clearly said that Pepe isn't a saint so I guess its a draw on poor conclusion as you thought that I was spinning for Pepe.
No I think you've sewn up poor conclusions on your own peddling the claim that poor Pepe was being singled out with Costa trying to get him sent off. There's nothing poor about Pepe, he's about as dirty a player as there is in the game, far from a human being
In the literal sense this is far from true.
Costa and Pepe were trying to wind each other up from the start, they didn't really stop until they'd both been booked.
As I commented in the Copa thread it reminded me of old style Seria A vendetta defending, where most of the fouls were off the ball and behind the ref's back. The biggest difference being these days the TV cameras zoom in on it and go into action replays of it. Apparently Pepe told a teammate after the match that he was embarrassed that he'd got so worked up, but that next time he was going to wear a microphone.
On Costa himself, he has behaved a lot better than season. In fact I'd even say that rather than the automatic red card I used to want him to get in the pre-match handshakes, I'd now be willing to let him start off every game with a yellow. In terms of the Spanish team, I've no idea what Costa's like off-field but unless he's one of these instantly likeable when you meet him in real life types, I can't help but think his late arrival in the squad will be a disadvantage.
As I commented in the Copa thread it reminded me of old style Seria A vendetta defending, where most of the fouls were off the ball and behind the ref's back. The biggest difference being these days the TV cameras zoom in on it and go into action replays of it. Apparently Pepe told a teammate after the match that he was embarrassed that he'd got so worked up, but that next time he was going to wear a microphone.
On Costa himself, he has behaved a lot better than season. In fact I'd even say that rather than the automatic red card I used to want him to get in the pre-match handshakes, I'd now be willing to let him start off every game with a yellow. In terms of the Spanish team, I've no idea what Costa's like off-field but unless he's one of these instantly likeable when you meet him in real life types, I can't help but think his late arrival in the squad will be a disadvantage.
Its beyond me how you thought that I felt it was "poor" Pepe when I clearly said he isn't a saint. Stop trying to change my words to suit your point. I get it that you hate Pepe. I don't like Pepe either but that doesn't change the fact that for that particular game it was Costa who was the instigator and was trying every trick in the book to get Pepe sent off. Pepe was reacting to it, not instigating it.
And I am still waiting for you to tell me what you wanted to imply/show by posting all those pictures.
Poor Pepe, it wasn't clear after all the photos I guess...my bad
Between Pepe and Costa id cheer for Costa everytime even if its a underhand falcon punch.
It all depends on your Spanish club allegiance, you may like Barcelona more and naturally hate Pepe.
No i just see him as the lesser of the two evil. Im rooting for Atletico this season but Valencia are my spanish team.
Pepe is an uber****.
Not really clear yet.. why don't you break it down for me. Don't want to make poor conclusions again..
Not everything has come off for him today, but what a player! I'd hate to see him end up at Chelsea or any other English team. I'd swap him for RVP right now. He's just the type of striker we need.
I wouldn't. His touch is average at times and he's not world class, whereas RVP is.
I'd only swap him because of ages, but in terms of footballing quality RvP is a vastly superior player. Costa is good, but he's a good bullish-type player.
Can't wait to watch him and Suarez compete for who can act like the biggest cnut in the Chelsea vs Liverpool games next season.
Agreed. Costa is great, both technically and physically, but RVP has been quality week in week out since 2009. In addition, the form he's been in since the start of the 11/12 season is something Costa has yet to show - he's been amazing this season, but he has to do it again or else it will just be a flash in the pan. No reason he cannot, though - i'm sure he'll be great again next year, and for Spain (should he choose them, and they choose him over a 460). RVP's technical level is the best of all the top strikers around, bar Ibrahimovic. Costa is in the Falcao/Cavani bracket, i'd say - very skilful, but ultimately it is his attitude that makes him so formidable, like Rooney in his early days.
I'd understand people wanting Costa over RVP at the minute, though. Almost a no-brainer.
Well RVP was going through a poor spell this time last season wasnt he? Costa is doing a bit better than that.
I don't think he'll keep up this level of scoring but he does pose a relatively unique threat in being able to combine top class target man play with great dribbling. He can seem a little clumsy at times but he's got quality and is definitely suited to the Premier League.
Can I just ask why Real Madrid, Barca and other reputable top teams don't want him? Suarez was at a similar spotlight last year.
Because of his disastrous personality, he could spoil the image of the clubs. A club would rather chose a player who is good and have a good personality, rather than a player who is good and has a shite personality.
Suarez knew this, this year he has really calmed down and let his football speak for itself.
That is why big clubs would be hesitant to buy Costa, he is footballing ability as a benefit does not out way the risk of his bad boy personality.
Spain wanted him.
I'm sure Costa will wise up if a big club come looking for him and tell him that's something they demand of him if he's brought in. Drogba was similar on the pitch too. Not as bad obviously but it was there. He got better over the years. And no top team wanted Costa because he hadn't reached this level last summer. I'm sure a bigger team will want him this year.
I think he will end up at Chelsea next season if they can't get Falcao.
I don't know the reason why, but I think because the tournament if the World cup is so short, the benefit of having him there greatly outweighs the chances of him acting stipid.
costa was really good last year even without the goals though, his movement, behaviour, and ability to attack space gave nightmares to opposition defenders, even when he was inconsistent or unlethal considering his lack of endproduct. an atletico fan talking to me in the summer said he thought it was weird, but he reckoned atletico's attack would be stronger with costa-villa then it was with costa-falcao. obviously more of it is due to costa for this season's success rather then any real tandem effect, but it just demonstrates how highly regarded he was even without the unreal goals production rates. since the turn of 2012, from after the winter, he was pretty much the best player of atletico, better then falcao or anyone else.
i'd rather aliken the circumstances, and his character to suarez, he's a person that's mildly unhinged that runs down everything, and has unreal concentration and drive to win. Both players struggled, or weren't quite as amazing with their scoring in their first seasons even though they were both exceptionally dangerous and remarkable players even without goals. the end product has elevated both though. suarez had 11 goals and 4 assists from 31 appearances in 2011/12, costa had 12 goals and 8 assists from 36 appearances in 2012/13. i'd say the key difference is mostly that costa gets double the shots per game that he did in 2012, from 1.6 shots a game to 3.3. fronting the atletico attack, all he's shown is his ability to be dangerous as a goalscorer, in the past he was a very dangerous player, but he did most of his valuable work in build up, drawing opposition away, winning physical duels, and making space for falcao with his excellent dummy runs. He showed in the copa del rey vs madrid just how exceptionally dangerous he could be though with his combination of speed and strength, he scored a goal but could've scored many more with the runs he made for himself.
i would agree with you for sure that he would excell in the premier league, and i say so due to his physical ability, he is exceptionally fast, and exceptionally strong, a combination that makes him uncontainable at times. he's not a very good, or clincal finisher, but his speed and strength lets him get alot of opportunities others wouldn't be able to make. he has a good aerial game, he's nice at dribbling like you say, a little clumsy at times, but he has control over himself and the ball, and doesn't waste his feints.
he's a rare speciman of strength, size, speed, and having an incredible sense for attacking spaces and making his actions dangerous in almost every sense. it guarantees him to be an impact player regardless of production or what league he plays in to me.
Diego Costa and Jose, seems like a good fit.
One goal away from 30 for the season.
Is this the same Diego Costa who spits in his own hand and then wipes it in opposition faces when the ref isnt looking?
How do Atletico do it? Constantly replacing goal machines with more goal machines? Torres to Aguero to Falcao to Costa. Their striking scouts must be superb at their jobs.
Don't forget our Diego! (Forlan)
I didnt! I actually wrote him in and deleted it because he was also brilliant at Villarreal so that is kinda different to the rest on that list I guessDon't forget our Diego! (Forlan)
True I suppose he didn't exactly get "scouted", but either way their strikers in the last 7 years have all been very prolific.
Pepe and Ramos say hi.
That pass for the first goal is a beauty nice finish from him
nice finish from himA lot of players have that though Roy Keane did... so did Rooney in his younger days... Rooney was a better player back then too.
Sometimes being like that unnerves defenders, Costa is a top player, a player every team would like to have, I don't see him at Manchester United, but I think he will be hard to play against if he goes to Chelsea, which he probably will.
I really hope it's true that we're interested in him. I think he's brilliant. There's something very 'Suarez' about him, other than the antics! He always seems to be one step ahead of the defenders in terms of thinking. He finds a way though the defence with one touch, he just seems to find a way of going past a man when it doesn't seem possible or you least expect it.
If he goes Chelsea then they've got their Drogba replacement finally. Hopefully Mourinho gets caught up in a war for Falcao. Falcao is also a top striker, but I think I'd honestly rather have Costa, especially after the injury that Falcao has suffered.
If he goes Chelsea then they've got their Drogba replacement finally. Hopefully Mourinho gets caught up in a war for Falcao. Falcao is also a top striker, but I think I'd honestly rather have Costa, especially after the injury that Falcao has suffered.
I'd rather they end up with neither, both are devastating.
Costa of this season and all of 2013 is a better player than Falcao has ever been. I reserved my judgement in saying that for a while as Costa kept banging them in but for me he has overtaken him. A much more complete striker.
I saw in the twitter thread that he's had the Carlos Quieroz stamp of approval too. He named him as the player that he thinks we should sign, but says he would have got him 2 years ago.
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