Diego Simeone - the missing one

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Might have taken them as far as they can go
That's right. Simeone has done a fantastic job there, won them a league title (which is an incredible achievement) and few other trophies and made them competitive in CL finals to the point of reaching several CL finals. That's as much as he can take them. I'm not sure why he doesn't think of changing scenes and trying a new experience.
 

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Crap manager with only spoiler tactics. Boring style of play and cannot continue to play the underdog when you have £200m sitting on the bench against Leipzig.

Will always be the third team in Spain with him in charge and just because he is animated on the sidelines it doesn’t make him a tactical genius. Must be terrible to be a season ticket holder there and churn out the same shite season after season and finish third.
Crap manager? He’s won everything bar the CL. He’s come mightily close to it too.

Where were Atletico before him? They played entertaining football but won nothing
 

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Anyone who thinks Simeone didn't succeed with Atletico or didn't do a fantastic job there just because his style isn't pleasant must recheck stats, numbers and trophies.

He's the only reason they became relevant again last decade.
 

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Third best team in Spain and won the League once.
In 95/96 was it when they won the league? They finished 9th and 7th before he rocked up. They weren’t top 3 either, Sevilla and Villarreal were better sides. Before that Valencia and Deportivo.

You have to go back to the 90s to their league title win.
 

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So now he’s a shit manager is that the narrative ?

Very very short memory by some people.
 

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In 95/96 was it when they won the league? They finished 9th and 7th before he rocked up. They weren’t top 3 either, Sevilla and Villarreal were better sides. Before that Valencia and Deportivo.

You have to go back to the 90s to their league title win.
For £36m a year I would expect a few more trophies. Benitez won a couple of La Ligas and is mocked on the Caf at times. Ok maybe Simeone is a decent manager but come on he isn’t ripping any trees up and changing any order in Spain.
 

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"Crap manager" ffs.

What he did in the 2013-2014 season was remarkable. If it wasn't for a late Ramos goal, they would have done the double. He made Aletico a European powerhouse the past 7 years.

2 UCL finals appearances. 2 title challenges(1 title win) going up against the might of Real and Barcelona. 2 Europa Leagues. 1 Copa Del Rey. 2 Uefa Super Cups.

That's an incredible resume.
 

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So now he’s a shit manager is that the narrative ?

Very very short memory by some people.
The narrative should be that his tactics haven't varied in years and the club feels in a stagnant position. If Oblak leaves, things can get ugly. I can see Sevilla and Villarreal overtaking them next season.
 

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For £36m a year I would expect a few more trophies. Benitez won a couple of La Ligas and is mocked on the Caf at times. Ok maybe Simeone is a decent manager but come on he isn’t ripping any trees up and changing any order in Spain.
The fact they even won the league ahead of Madrid and Barca at one point in his era is an incredible achievement.

They'll always be behind Madrid and Barca regardless of their manager. The idea that they're now expected to be more than that and everyone expect them to win trophies is thanks to no other one bar Simeone. He made them that relevant in people's eyes again.
 

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For £36m a year I would expect a few more trophies. Benitez won a couple of La Ligas and is mocked on the Caf at times. Ok maybe Simeone is a decent manager but come on he isn’t ripping any trees up and changing any order in Spain.
You said he was a crap manager. He isn’t. You said Atletico were the third best team in Spain before he turned up. They were not (only historically)He’s competed against one of the greatest club sides of all time in Barcelona and a superb Real Madrid team who until this season only had something 2 title wins in 7-8 seasons. That’s how difficult it is to win the league.

This season he can be criticised due to Barca and Madrid being mediocre but overall he’s been a huge success.
 

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"Crap manager" ffs.

What he did in the 2013-2014 season was remarkable. If it wasn't for a late Ramos goal, they would have done the double. He made Aletico a European powerhouse the past 7 years.

2 UCL finals appearances. 2 title challenges(1 title win) going up against the might of Real and Barcelona. 2 Europa Leagues. 1 Copa Del Rey. 2 Uefa Super Cups.

That's an incredible resume.
Exactly. No one thought of Atletico as a serious team in years before he turned up. Only Cristiano got the better of Atletico before tonight.
 

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He has always been very stingy at specific times. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.
200 million on the bench(Lemar and Joâo) and up with a converted Llorente.
He needs to sell several players and focus on signing a real striker to make the game even more simple, which is what he would like.
 

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If he is a crap manager then that would make most of the managers in football even worse. He is a top manager. Yes his style is not pretty to the eyes but it has worked wonders at Athletico.
 

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"Crap manager" ffs.

What he did in the 2013-2014 season was remarkable. If it wasn't for a late Ramos goal, they would have done the double. He made Aletico a European powerhouse the past 7 years.

2 UCL finals appearances. 2 title challenges(1 title win) going up against the might of Real and Barcelona. 2 Europa Leagues. 1 Copa Del Rey. 2 Uefa Super Cups.

That's an incredible resume.
That was 7 years ago and Europa League is just the 2nd tier of competition really. Cannot see the progress personally where domestic titles and Champions League are where it is at.
 

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Folks, this thread is tongue-in-cheek, right? :eek: Only rational explanation is many posters are extremely bored. It really makes no sense to make sh*t of Simeone as a coach, or everyone and his dog. The serious, looming threat being a PSG-City final, and this forum will finally explode. :D
 

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That was 7 years ago and Europa League is just the 2nd tier of competition really. Cannot see the progress personally where domestic titles and Champions League are where it is at.
It is the best achievement this decade in football after Leicester's title win.

The progress is cumulative.

Atletico were thought of nothing for a long time before he arrived.

No one expected them to compete for La Liga or the Champions League. He did it twice against superior teams.

Compare Atletico in the 7 years with Simeone and the 10 years prior to him joining. If that's not progress, nothing is progress.
 

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Extremely overrated manager who should have been fired two years ago. Terrible transfers, mental block against Real, unwatchable football while they completely waste Saul, Koke, Felix etc.
 

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You have to love how every other players/managers are crap or overrated.
 

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This place loved him after they beat Liverpool. This forum seem to base opinions game by game
 

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Extremely overrated manager who should have been fired two years ago. Terrible transfers, mental block against Real, unwatchable football while they completely waste Saul, Koke, Felix etc.
Didn't he have something like a 10 game unbeaten record against Real some years ago?
 

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For £36m a year I would expect a few more trophies. Benitez won a couple of La Ligas and is mocked on the Caf at times. Ok maybe Simeone is a decent manager but come on he isn’t ripping any trees up and changing any order in Spain.
Mostly because he managed Liverpool. And as much as I enjoy mocking his "facts" rant, which was one of the stupidest things that ever happened in English football, he was actually a very good manager for Liverpool, something we rarely acknowledge because, well, it's Liverpool.

Simeone was very much ripping up trees in Spain, and firmly established Atlético as the 3rd best side in La Liga. Considering who the top two are, that is an immense achievement, especially as he even managed to pip them to the title once.
 

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He took them from nothing to a team who regularly makes it to the deep end of CL knockouts. Won a title and brought them back to relevancy. Overrated sure :lol:

But he needs to adapt to the new situation where they won’t be treated as underdogs anymore. Needs to have a better plan B of attack. Also their transfers in the recent seasons have been dodgy af. Not sure if that’s him or the board.
 

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You have to love how every other players/managers are crap or overrated.
You wonder why we bother to watch football at all when only two managers and two players in the entire world aren't shit overrated bottler frauds, and when any of those two managers and players ever lose, yes they are.
 

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His shit football is done at the elite level. Its not as if he doesnt spend money, he chooses to play this way.
Atletico are one of the biggest spenders in world football
 

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You wonder why we bother to watch football at all when only two managers and two players in the entire world aren't shit overrated bottler frauds, and when any of those two managers and players ever lose, yes they are.
Pep is a fraud, Zidane is a poser and Klopp has fake teeth. Messi couldn't do it in the PL and Ronaldo is a penalty merchant.
 

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For £36m a year I would expect a few more trophies. Benitez won a couple of La Ligas and is mocked on the Caf at times. Ok maybe Simeone is a decent manager but come on he isn’t ripping any trees up and changing any order in Spain.
Both Real and Barca were relatively weak at that point. When Simeone won the title, both Real and Barca were at the peak of their powers.
 

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This is peak Redcafe. Third best team in Spain knocks out the current UCL holders (best team in England), knocked out in QF by third best team in Germany.

"Overrated, dinosaur, boring, past it, too much money on bench."
 

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This is peak Redcafe. Third best team in Spain knocks out the current UCL holders (best team in England), knocked out in QF by third best team in Germany.

"Overrated, dinosaur, boring, past it, too much money on bench."
7 years since their last domestic trophy. EL 2 years ago which they could only win on the back of being poor in the CL. Squad is getting more bloated. It's one of the most expensive squads in the world and there's been no improvement. If 3rd place in the league and no trophy is what they want to be doing they could spend a lot less doing so. Since SAF retired United have done better than Atlético. How well do you think United has done?
 
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He's a good manager but too risk averse in style.