Missed parts of the game yesterday, did he grab his balls at any point??
Diego Simeone - the missing one
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Heard he grabbed everybody else's in the dressing room
Around 20M per year then.. Cool
The problem with Atletico is they hardly score, & if an opponent scores twice they are in deep trouble. Talented team led by a negative controlling manager. Ring any bells.
What's even more shocking is only Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Griezmann earn more than him
That's unbelievable to be honest. Also GriezmannWhat's even more shocking is only Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Griezmann earn more than him
and how many of these players were deemed 'talented' before playing for Simeone?
Atletico is not the star studded team you are trying to paint.
Before Simeone took over, they had not finished in top 3 la liga in almost a decade and were even less relevant in Europe.
Like I said before, making a sub just wasn't enough. He needed to make his team play more advanced and had them go for it because the third goal was coming for everyone to see.
Isn't the final in their stadium this year. Then you would think they try the best to make sure they got to the final. Ronaldo scored and they went to pieces.
The 3rd goal was from a penalty conceded by a striker's challenge - there was nothing 'coming' about it.
That Atletico team did not have what it takes to go for it. It was going for it and being hit on the quick counter that cost them the first goal.
Atletico have been successful under Simeone cos of the way they play. Arguing that they should play differently to be successful is simply baseless.
Partey didn't play yesterday though, right?
This.
The 3rd goal was coming for about 30/35 minutes. if you couldn't see that I'm not sure what game you watched. they didn't have to radically change their style. just pose some kind of threat.
They may not be star studded but what they showed against Juve was pathetic.
And it matters not as to what they were as a club before Simeone, he's been there for around 6 or so years,he's tranformed the squad but unfortunately for them their coach must still think of how the club was before he took over to always play how he does time after time.
Pff you cannot be serious with this if you watched the game at 2-2 and didn't think Juventus were gonna do it if Atletico kept playing so low.
It's as simple as this. I actually cannot believe one didn't think Juve were gonna do it at that point if Atletico didn't drastically change their approach
I agree with him. Juventus looked like they were losing momentum in the second half after the first 15 minutes.
I seriously doubt you watched the match
Atletico were the epitome of a team showing up trying to defend their way through a two-legged tie. They got done because they offered nothing in attack.
This.
There was never a doubt in my mind Juve were winning yesterday, for pretty much the entire 90 minutes. There was no loss of momentum, it was simply just a matter of time. Atletico offered so little, in such a big game, the plan failed miserably.
Because it was Ronaldo who opened the scoring, I had no doubt too. Their entire team brought the right level of intensity for this game.
I did, but cool
Atletico got a bit better as the second half progressed but they still were cack. I couldn't believe it. One of the worst performances I've ever seen at this level.
Simeone was plain tactically inept to defend so deep when the other team has such an all-time great header of the ball as Ronaldo in the lineup.
The thing with defensive tactics is if it works then you will be seen as a hero, but if it doesn't then you will be seen as a coward. I can't think of many differences between our set-up in the second leg against PSG and Atletico's set-up against Juventus. We even needed to score goals unlike Atletico who were defending a lead.
No no no, you disagreed so therefore your opinion is wrong.
Since the goal was coming for so long, how many shots on goal did Juve have during this spell? How many times did ythey hit the bar?
Simeone molded the team in the image of himself - effort, grit, defense etc. This is what has brought them the level of success they have had with the limited budget he has had.
Most of his signings are low cost and/or rejects of other clubs (e.g. Costa and Morata) and yet he has made la liga a competition of 2.5 clubs.
There is no other la liga club with similar limited budget that has had a similar level of success.
One might not like his style, but he has taken atletico farther than any other manager could possibly do on the same budget
This is just hilarious - the coach of one of the best defensive teams of this era is being called tactically inept.
If Simeone is tactically inept, then almost every other manager must be tactically brain dead.
Fully agreed that qe has done more with little, but its not just against the big teams. Atletico Madrid always plays with an air on negativity/defense about them. A lot of their games are won by tight margins even against teams you'd consider inferior to them.
Being a forward in that team must be so frustrating.
But that is the identity of the team that Simeone has built and so far it has worked well enough for them
The highest paid manager in the world - only to complete another disappointing season where he goes out by playing cowardly from minute 0. Atleti played some wonderful stuff once they were 1-0 down but as soon as they scored, they reverted back to cautious mode. He'll never learn.
Atletico players seem so in love with him that I feel the day he does leave, they'll take a couple of seasons to adjust and probably not reach the same levels
They might have to have a rethink about him. He's shown an incapability to put together a balanced side in many seasons now.
It's all about the replacement. If it's someone like Bordelas it won't take much adjusting to. If it's some no name brand it'll be an issue.
Might have taken them as far as they can go
Look at how much money in transfer fees was sitting on Atletico's bench today. You can do that if you are City, PSG etc. but Atletico can't afford to spend so much money and then have these players flop/sit on the bench in games like these.
I would say he did well to maintain Atl Madrid in top 4 or 3rd place comfortably. I have seen lot of La Liga team only maintained it for 3-4 years like Valencia, Sevilla & Vilarreal. But, is it really their only ambition? I wonder if financially they are fine.
Crap manager with only spoiler tactics. Boring style of play and cannot continue to play the underdog when you have £200m sitting on the bench against Leipzig.
Will always be the third team in Spain with him in charge and just because he is animated on the sidelines it doesn’t make him a tactical genius. Must be terrible to be a season ticket holder there and churn out the same shite season after season and finish third.
Will always be the third team in Spain with him in charge and just because he is animated on the sidelines it doesn’t make him a tactical genius. Must be terrible to be a season ticket holder there and churn out the same shite season after season and finish third.