This match basically means OGS and the senior squad haven’t got any excuses for the weekend. They can’t play the midweek travel card should we not win.
Disrespectful and Selfish (updated: Oops)
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Oh man. I was going to make the faux outrage thread after today’s result.
I'm pretty sure the fans knew well ahead that the kids would be played, they had access to the traveling team info. And I think most sane fans would prefer we not bring the first teamers around half the world to fecking siberia and risk getting injured.
This is a ridiculous thread. Some good first team experience secured for the youngsters. I don't think this had anything to do with Ole's name in the record books re: youth. Come on.
One of the most pathetic threads on the Caf and that's some achievement.
Rochdale was different though as they are a local side to United and would have played their best game regardless of the team we put out.
Thread of the week?
They do, at least the key players like Rashford, James and few others with few playing every game, few coming back from injury and then playing every game. This was a pointless game to risk them considering the travelling time and thin squad.
It's not a dead rubber. We're going to lose at home to AZ and finish second in the group and go out in the next round.
But also, didn't want the full first team there. Just a few more of the ones that need minutes to be sharper for when they do get their cameos in the coming games.
christ, this thread's embarrassing
We just need a draw in the last game for us to qualify as group winners. But yeah ole should have taken the first team to halfway around the world for a match that isn’t even such an important game for us.
Had ole taken any first teamers and had they been injured the place would have erupted in outrage over the injury. The op would probably have led from the front in criticizing ole for getting a first teamer injured in a meaningless game. Sometimes it feels like ole cannot win.
Had ole taken any first teamers and had they been injured the place would have erupted in outrage over the injury. The op would probably have led from the front in criticizing ole for getting a first teamer injured in a meaningless game. Sometimes it feels like ole cannot win.
Ole did the right thing playing the kids in my opinion. We are through my only concern is that the tactics were passive and not how that set of players excel
Winning the next league game is more important than beating Astana
Winning the next league game is more important than beating Astana
That's not the point, I don't care how well Rochdale would have played, I just think that like SAF used to do the League Cup is one of the competitions where we could and should use heavily youth and bench players.
Yeah, OP is spot on.
I have been forgiving so far, but this is it.
Feck Ole and everything he stands for.
I have been forgiving so far, but this is it.
Feck Ole and everything he stands for.
Pretty certain the travelling fans (1. Knew the kids were playing (2. Would rather watch these kids over the likes of Mata,Rojo and Young irrespective of the result
and (3. Experience another culture while supporting their side in a top European competition.
and (3. Experience another culture while supporting their side in a top European competition.
This place is definitely getting worse, horrible result but needs context. Even if we finish second in the group we should be beating everyone in the next round. Taking players that would feature against Villa would be stupid. If Chong scores that open goal it's 2.0 and over. Some people have a bitch fit as usual.
If we're not good enough to win the next round we wouldn't be lasting very long anyway. Also we might only need a draw AZ are 0-2 down at the moment.
Said it was a crazy lineup before the match and bit my tongue criticising the fetishism of youth. Not an important match really but too many posters here are marching to Ole's drum featuring The United Way and other such bollocks. Does annoy me I'm sorry to say because it's all excuses.
Edit: Alright maybe this was harsh and dumb. Getting a bit bothered by Ole in general but this match wasn't that important so...
Edit: Alright maybe this was harsh and dumb. Getting a bit bothered by Ole in general but this match wasn't that important so...
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We definitely should have played several of our first teamers on a frozen astro turf in asia when we got 10 games in 30 days coming up. Ole out.
I agree. Can’t believe we’ve sunk this low. He needs to get the feck out of this club with his small club mentality. Piss off.
@el3mel aye I am admittedly extreme here in my views but that's just the way I think. And today there's a lot of nuances about the decision to take this team that are more red flags to me.
Don't get me wrong, it was nice to see some these young players out there. And as much as I'm frustrated with Lingard I was really happy to see him get on the scoresheet. He needs to hit some sort of form. But the crucial moment when I started rethinking it was when Bernard scored the own goal that was Astana's winning goal. We talk a lot about man management and how to build confidence in players. I'm looking back at that and thinking as a kid on your debut to have that mistake cost the game at the opponents ground and then travel back for what is it, 17 hours on a plane. Is that right? Is that how we develop our youth at United? You have that match at home and the stadium claps the team off, lifts their spirits because they know, they're kids. Astana doesn't give a flying fig if it's 19 or 29 year olds. They're a team from Khazakstan that just beat the fabled Manchester United.
Just not the right place for this from Ole. It strikes me as very misled.
Don't get me wrong, it was nice to see some these young players out there. And as much as I'm frustrated with Lingard I was really happy to see him get on the scoresheet. He needs to hit some sort of form. But the crucial moment when I started rethinking it was when Bernard scored the own goal that was Astana's winning goal. We talk a lot about man management and how to build confidence in players. I'm looking back at that and thinking as a kid on your debut to have that mistake cost the game at the opponents ground and then travel back for what is it, 17 hours on a plane. Is that right? Is that how we develop our youth at United? You have that match at home and the stadium claps the team off, lifts their spirits because they know, they're kids. Astana doesn't give a flying fig if it's 19 or 29 year olds. They're a team from Khazakstan that just beat the fabled Manchester United.
Just not the right place for this from Ole. It strikes me as very misled.
Umm,no.
We just want to watch a bunch of reserves playing in a competitive game and tonights tie looked like a good opportunity to do so. That's it.
No hidden agenda.
Embarrassing thread
I just think rage should be saved for more fitting moments, say sunday after we don't beat Villa perhaps.
Just when you think posts on the caf couldn’t get any more stupid, you read this.
Bravo!
Bravo!
If your mad at youth players being in the starting 11 then maybe just maybe Manchester United isn't the club for you.
You don't know how hard it was for me to hold back all the insults I had. We have a league game on Sunday another one against City during mid week. It was a great decision by Ole no matter what you think of it. The young lads also are happy to have gotten their debuts even if it didn't bring victory. Some will probably never even play European football again in their football careers
I think Ole was spot on giving the youngsters some game time. Its exactly what they needed and a great learning curve.
Think it was sensible decision by Ole to rest the senior players. With our thin squad if we played our seniors players and had an injury to someone like Martial, we would have been fecked and some people would have been on Ole's back saying something like "Why did we risk Martial in a game like this when we have important game on the weekend?".
We've qualified anyway and as of this moment we only need a point to top the group. If we don't play the youngster's in games like this when are we supposed to play them?
Think it was sensible decision by Ole to rest the senior players. With our thin squad if we played our seniors players and had an injury to someone like Martial, we would have been fecked and some people would have been on Ole's back saying something like "Why did we risk Martial in a game like this when we have important game on the weekend?".
We've qualified anyway and as of this moment we only need a point to top the group. If we don't play the youngster's in games like this when are we supposed to play them?
Yeah, he even said Pogba will play only 20-30 mins but ended up starting the game and played full game. It was very poor decision and injury management by Ole.
OP is the hero we need but dont deserve
Worst thread ever.
Moaning about nothing
Can't be angry at him for fielding that team, same fans would have been screaming about his lack of use of youngsters. I'm more concerned that he couldn't get a tune out of them
Are you on a wind up?
Aye.
But the worst part is that he didn't travel himself, just sent Phelan.
What? He was there? Well, that's even worse. Should have taken a stand against global warming by not going, the ignorant cnut.
It's interesting to see the number of insults being hurled at me for having a starkly contrasting opinion. I'm not going to pretend like this was a litmus test of the cafe. But it certainly shows this huge intolerance that's developed on here for anyone criticizing a decision by Ole. I don't recall Fergie getting this kind of blind support on here in sack Fergie sell giggs years
Insubordinate and churlish!