Gerrard will probably lift the fecking trophy.[/QUOTE]
Do we want to lose to City?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
I agree I’ve been trying to tell friends of mine who support Liverpool this , they’ve been saying they want Utd winning games to stay in the hunt for top4 and when derby day comes around they need to win. I’ve been saying they’re not going to go out and down tools it’s a derby but we just don’t have the quality to beat city.
I can see a Utd player getting sent off by trying to show a bit of "over the board" passion.
Would be genuinely interested to know the background and locality of those with opinions on every end of this argument.
I can't explain how badly Liverpool winning the league would be for me as a United fan working a stones throw away from the Albert Dock.
I can't explain how badly Liverpool winning the league would be for me as a United fan working a stones throw away from the Albert Dock.
Absolutely, that's what it comes down to, I have no regular contact with Liverpool fans in real-life and it matters less to me.
That would be ideal.
My money is on Young
No, we need 3 fecking points.
I'm worried City are getting quite nervous and this might actually happen to them. Fernandinho getting a fair treatment by a ref for the first time in his life. We only draw (which would be the worst possible result) and then proceed to lose to Chelsea.
If we win or draw, and Liverpool become champions because of it, and we still end up missing out on top four, I'd feel pretty miserable
If we win this and end up in the Europa league and Liverpool win the League I'm done with football.
Plus one to that , but I think we will see a reaction tomorrow night and a much better performance.
Which will just reinforce the point that they can't be bothered most of the time unless they are personally criticized , doing it just for the honour of the club week in week out is not enough incentive for them.
Agreed, would be typical of Pogba to score a last minute equalizer and celebrate like he's won the CL when the fans cry in the stand.
Option 2 all day:
We've signed better players without CL qualification in the past few years.
It's much better for the club long terms to stay on our perch.
I couldn't care less what City win. Where I live (North Wales) practically everybody supports either United or Liverpool. To me, City are still the team of Paul Dickov, Nicky Weaver and Shaun Goater. I feel just the same about them as I would if an oil billionaire bought a load of trophies for Bolton.
If we miss out on CL, it'll make some Tuesday and Wednesday nights next year a bit shit. However, if we're responsible for handing the title to fecking Liverpool, I don't think I'd hear the end of it as long as I live.
If we miss out on CL, it'll make some Tuesday and Wednesday nights next year a bit shit. However, if we're responsible for handing the title to fecking Liverpool, I don't think I'd hear the end of it as long as I live.
This thread should be archived in Classics forum.
There is not one single player who played on Sunday that would start this for me. That being said we will do nothing in the champions league next year anyhow. This nonsense that we have to be in the champions league to attract decent players is tosh. We would never hear the end of it if Liverpool won the league.
That's totally understandable
That's simply not true, is it? It depends what you give up and what you get out of it.
What does the last sentence have to do with this thread?
How many games have we lost this season in all competitions? Ten? Twelve? I’m not going to lose sleep over one more, to be very fecking honest with you. Sunday was the nadir to end all nadirs and I couldn’t give a toss about these charlatans any longer. I’ll be livid if they choose tomorrow night to finally show some backbone.
I couldn't care less who wins the title. All I care about is getting top 4 so we don't have to overpay to bring in mercenaries who may only make our current predicament worse.
If Liverpool win the title, so be it. They'll deserve it and frankly they are far better value than City for it. I don't think many will hate Liverpool fans more than me. I grew up with back stabbing arrogant moany twat Liverpool fans as school 'mates', but I've grown up and so should we all.
This Liverpool side is the least dislikeable Liverpool side I can remember. They work hard, play good football and have spent well and built something.
I may never be a fan of Liverpool fans, but I can be bigger than them and respect good football.
There is also the theory that Liverpool winning could be a knock to our perch which will still be riding high above Liverpool, albeit just, and this this could be the catalyst for the Glazers to invest harder to ensure we maintain top billing.
City would take decades to overcome United's fan base. Liverpool far less time. This is a battle that means something to us, but importantly also transcends to the commercial space.
If we lose this battle, we may just win the war.
If Liverpool win the title, so be it. They'll deserve it and frankly they are far better value than City for it. I don't think many will hate Liverpool fans more than me. I grew up with back stabbing arrogant moany twat Liverpool fans as school 'mates', but I've grown up and so should we all.
This Liverpool side is the least dislikeable Liverpool side I can remember. They work hard, play good football and have spent well and built something.
I may never be a fan of Liverpool fans, but I can be bigger than them and respect good football.
There is also the theory that Liverpool winning could be a knock to our perch which will still be riding high above Liverpool, albeit just, and this this could be the catalyst for the Glazers to invest harder to ensure we maintain top billing.
City would take decades to overcome United's fan base. Liverpool far less time. This is a battle that means something to us, but importantly also transcends to the commercial space.
If we lose this battle, we may just win the war.
Definitely. I don't want to play in the Europa League anyway. Would rather finish sixth than fifth.
If someone can promise me we win all our remaining games now I don't care what happens between Liverpool and City
It'll be too hard not to get caught up in the atmosphere & support United once we kick-off.
The Glazers have tested to destruction the proposition that we need to win stuff to make a profit. People need to wake up to that.
If we finish 6th we still get Europa League
No. Not while Top 4 is still an option. For all our complaining about United's form, Arsenal and Chelsea both messed up a winnable game that could have put them comfortably in the mix and failed to do so and Spurs losing to City keeps them still in the mix. All 3 are still involved in European competition as well so you have to think their focus is divided on priorities.
The best way to describe it is, I wont be as disappointed as normal if City win but United to finish in the top 4 would open more doors for Solskjaer than a Europa League finish. Lets go for a win and hope Newcastle and Wolves beat Liverpool.
The best way to describe it is, I wont be as disappointed as normal if City win but United to finish in the top 4 would open more doors for Solskjaer than a Europa League finish. Lets go for a win and hope Newcastle and Wolves beat Liverpool.
Here is worst case scenario...
We beat City
Liverpool win the title
We finish 4th
Spurs finish 5th
Arsenal/Chelsea finish 6th
Spurs win the CL
Arsenal/Chelsea with the EL
We get bumped to the EL
We beat City
Liverpool win the title
We finish 4th
Spurs finish 5th
Arsenal/Chelsea finish 6th
Spurs win the CL
Arsenal/Chelsea with the EL
We get bumped to the EL
This, if we somehow draw this game tomorrow, I'd dislike this group of players even more.
Which is fine with me, that is if they put the effort in.
Will just reinforce the point that they need clearing out at the end of the season. But I, for one, am sick and tired of rolling over for those cnuts.
We just cannot gift Liverpool the league ..
Those kind of stains just never wash out.
Are we good enough to get top 4 anyway ... probably not but due to Arsenal and Chelsea being just as abject we could actually fluke it.
Losing to City and finishing 4th is almost wishful thinking ... damn im actually hoping for that scenario these days ... its sobering how low my hopes are !
Those kind of stains just never wash out.
Are we good enough to get top 4 anyway ... probably not but due to Arsenal and Chelsea being just as abject we could actually fluke it.
Losing to City and finishing 4th is almost wishful thinking ... damn im actually hoping for that scenario these days ... its sobering how low my hopes are !
I don't think we're having much choice here. Our only hopes for this game is a lucky draw / win where De Gea makes 30 saves and City misses a few sitters, because otherwise we will loose comfortably.
It's an if still isn't it? We don't know. My opinion is that he does, but it might be hard to isolate his ability given the shambolic nature of how the club is being run.
Ah fek
Yes indeed!
No, Utd to win all the way. Let Liverpool have their moment of glory and brag about how they have won as many premier leagues as the higher echelons of the likes of Leicester and Blackburn.
Same.
They'll be one behind us, with us not getting near anytime soon. Silly reasoning.