pratyush_utd
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I'm not going to vote as I'm not a Man United fan and I don't like to taint the votes on here but I agree 100% with the protests and it's awesome to see fans making their feelings known in a meaningful and impactful way.
I strongly advise just forwarding at the 9minute 55mark to hear what the guy in white says about today's protest.
And this is a Liverpool fan, in case anyone hasn't seen this channel before:
Not sure but saw it on reddit so shared here. Could be the policeman who got injured. Looks horribleWho is that and what happened?
We need to get a list going round of Glazer owned companies. If we can use our global fanbase to affect the earnings of their other interests it could help motivate them into selling the shares they have in United. Fully support the protest today , not sure if the on field scenes are necessary as we could have cancelled the game without breaking into the stadium most likely.
No it's related to a number of issues, number one being the mountains of debt they've saddled us with. I was just using that as an example.Serious question, is this all about us not spending millions in the transfer window? Fan protests are being touted as being mainly about the super league, and those two are separate issues.
This is understandable but regrettably it's part of (nearly) every protest, especially one where people are passionate about the cause.95% of the protest I agree with , it’s the minority that ruin it sometimes and it’s the minority is what the tabloids are going to write about . Throwing a flare and a can at the sky crew is wrong as is that muppet throwing the camera .
Have you been getting bills in the mail for you to pay the interest on their debt?No it's related to a number of issues, number one being the mountains of debt they've saddled us with. I was just using that as an example.
Agreed. Don't mistake me as being desperate for a sugar daddy. I would like an owner who cares about bringing success to the club while not being a human rights abuser, ideally.Just as anyone who voted "yes" doesn't have the right to complain if we get sold to the Saudis or someone worse.
Agreed?
Again this is another false equivalence. The fans are paying the debt from the revenue generated.Have you been getting bills in the mail for you to pay the interest on their debt?
They're not genuine points. The fans don't get billed for the interest. If you don't spend a single cent on anything United related for a year you don't have a liability to still somehow cover an interest payment. The owners still do.Again this is another false equivalence. The fans are paying the debt from the revenue generated.
This revenue is growing by virtue of the almost guaranteed annual increases in TV subscription fees over the past 10 or 15 years, which coincided with the Glazers taking us over.
So it would be nice if you take this kind of Investment banking narrative back to the crooks of wall street and stop trying to guilt trip people for making genuine points.
https://news.sky.com/story/manchest...-glazer-protest-outside-old-trafford-12293224Who is that and what happened?
The only reason the debt is there is because of these leeches. And yes, they are genuine points to someone who doesn't purposefully try to twist them to suit their world view.They're not genuine points. The fans don't get billed for the interest. If you don't spend a single cent on anything United related for a year you don't have a liability to still somehow cover an interest payment. The owners still do.
It's still theirs and the club's debt, not yours or mine.The only reason the debt is there is because of these leeches. And yes, they are genuine points to someone who doesn't purposefully try to twist them to suit their world view.
The big picture is that laws were broken and policemen hurt.This is understandable but regrettably it's part of (nearly) every protest, especially one where people are passionate about the cause.
The media can always frame things that work for their vested interest. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture which is what some are missing here and what's leading to some of the frustration (including mine).
Wouldn't we all, but realistically who is there?Agreed. Don't mistake me as being desperate for a sugar daddy. I would like an owner who cares about bringing success to the club while not being a human rights abuser, ideally.
Wrong. This happens at all kinds of protests. You might not like it and it certainly is not a good look but the protest was legal and police knew about the strenght of feeling. They should have been prepared.The big picture is that laws were broken and policemen hurt.
This is your problem, mate. The club is the fans. They should own the business that represents the club.It's still theirs and the club's debt, not yours or mine.
The big picture is that laws were broken and policemen hurt.
Any and all violence is utterly deplorable. I will never support hurting anybody. However, I do support non-violent direct action, and still think getting the game postponed was a great achievement. We must build upon that with every home game going forward until the Glazers leave. This is a huge moment now.
100% agree with the protest. It was terrific. High-profile, dramatic, global and effective. Well done. It was brilliant, standing on that pitch challenging the ownership of their club.
Any violence cannot be condoned, so anyone hurt is a shame and simply unacceptable.
The protest is a superb expression of dissatisfaction by many football fans from many football clubs.
I hope today acts as a step-change in the re-assessment of the relationship between the football industry and fans.
I felt v proud to be a supporter of Manchester United today.
Yes. Everything except any acts of violence or antagonising bystanders. Throwing flares towards the pundits, and jumping on cars on the main road was too far.
But protest has to be disruptive and uncomfortable to have an impact, and getting the game postponed is a huge impact. It puts a spotlight on the events all over the world. It took one of the biggest games away from multiple broadcasters, which is going to make the moneymen take notice.
Some bits got a little out of control, but I support the overarching principal for sure. Wouldn't even care if it resulted in a forfeit and giving the 3 points to Liverpool.
What a surprise!The BBC news story is very much focussing on the violence and a copper getting his face slashed.
So you now think that it was wrong, yes?100%. Now it’s time to get rid of the glazers. Enough is enough. Keep on going until the Glazers throw in the towel.
Wasn’t sure if it was right to enter the pitch, but now I think “why not” as long as no one is hurt or nothing is seriously damaged.
Proud of supporters who take action. You are doing it for all of us. Wish I had the opportunity to join the protest.