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Honestly, my least favourite part of the new website layout is that now this politics nonsense is on the main page.
I think a lot of them are genuinely that stupid that they don’t realise how deep they are in and how bad it is until it is too late. So it seems normal to talk via email at first, then it takes a turn and the email chain is already started and one of them has already said too much and another has realised they’ve replied in a way that makes it obvious they are also involved and know and then all of a sudden it’s all blown up and the context is established via other mediums and the emails look really bad now.I always have to wonder why these people do any of the dodgy stuff via email. Surely anyone with half a brain, would either verbally do it, or at the very least use a method that doesn't leave a paper trail
Probably the Senators Trump met. They probably told Trump he has to show a modicum of cooperation so their support doesn't look bad.How has that come out of State? Who authorized it?
Just finished reading this.Unbelievable stuff and it goes to show why Nunes is looking so broken and haunted at the moment. He’s in way above his head and has been involved in this Ukraine thing from origins.Tweet
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How has that come out of State? Who authorized it?
There was a FOIA request to the state department that was upheld in court. I’m guessing a team of lawyers arrived at the state department backed up by the court order and tuned a lower ranking official with access to the systems to start handing it over or personally be charged with obstruction.Probably the Senators Trump met. They probably told Trump he has to show a modicum of cooperation so their support doesn't look bad.
Thought this was quiet a good point. They’ve been setting the scene for a while that this goes back way beyond that first phone call.“bmilohill on Reddit” said:Schiff spent a full day on Marie Yovanovitch. She and Gordon Sondland both got a full hearing to themselves, as they were the most important. Everyone else was doubled up.
She was recalled the same day Zelenski took office. She wasn't in a position to know anything about the July 25th phone call. She wasn't in office when the military aid was withheld. And yet Schiff spent a full day really hammering home just how unusual it was for her to be smeared by Giuliani and removed by Trump. For an inquiry supposedly laser focused on the military aid hold, he spend a whole day on ancient history.
The Zelenksi quid pro quo was round 2. It was Trump trying to pressure the honest president of Ukraine. Yavonovich was a problem because Trump had something up and running before Zelenski took office. The original quid pro quo. Nunes' meeting wasn't after Zelenksi took office in May. It wasn't around the July phone call. Or the September release of the hold. It was last year.
Schiff spent a day getting ready for this to drop. Damn right he knew.
They were ordered by the court to release them. They had no choice.How has that come out of State? Who authorized it?
The person who handed it over might have been there late on a Friday afternoon specifically so they could hand over the documents to DNC lawyers waving a court order. I'm sure that not everybody there is happy with what is going on.There was a FOIA request to the state department that was upheld in court. I’m guessing a team of lawyers arrived at the state department backed up by the court order and tuned a lower ranking official with access to the systems to start handing it over or personally be charged with obstruction.
The timing seems perfect, late Friday evening. It was 3 weeks ago the court first ordered them to be handed over. It’s either that or they’ve spent 3 weeks identifying who has access and would be willing to comply.
Sounds familiar doesn't it Boris.Sounds like Trump does what he wants.
He doesn't follow rules and moans witch hunt when people pull him up.
That's why Trump didn't get caught up in the Russia prob like he was supposed to be.I always have to wonder why these people do any of the dodgy stuff via email. Surely anyone with half a brain, would either verbally do it, or at the very least use a method that doesn't leave a paper trail
If this is the stuff they email imagine the stuff they avoid leaving a trail forI always have to wonder why these people do any of the dodgy stuff via email. Surely anyone with half a brain, would either verbally do it, or at the very least use a method that doesn't leave a paper trail
No, the Russians just realized the Trump team was too incompetent to be trusted with carrying out that subterfuge without blowing it wide open and exposing them.That's why Trump didn't get caught up in the Russia prob like he was supposed to be.
Trump may actually start a war as a diversion if Parnas or Bolton were to testify.Just finished reading this.Unbelievable stuff and it goes to show why Nunes is looking so broken and haunted at the moment. He’s in way above his head and has been involved in this Ukraine thing from origins.
If Schiff can somehow organise Parnas to testify then it would be absolutely box office stuff. I’d wager that Nunes is a no show to that one rather than risk being broadcast live around the globe as Parnas starts unravelling his conspiracies and literally pointing the finger at him saying “you should know what you are saying is false, you were there when we were making it up. Some of these are your own stories”.
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That's a good point. But one of his cronies also mentioned that he avoids using email.No, the Russians just realized the Trump team was too incompetent to be trusted with carrying out that subterfuge without blowing it wide open and exposing them.
You know, sort of like how this scheme went...
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I'd imagine Nunes wouldn't show up if Parnas were to testify.Schiff is playing this nicely if he gets Parnas testifying to Nunes face about his crooked ways.
How can he explain that? He's the ranking member.I'd imagine Nunes wouldn't show up if Parnas were to testify.
fake doctor's note?How can he explain that? He's the ranking member.
He’d just cite some conspiracy theory bullshit and claim the moral high ground which the Trumpists will lap up.How can he explain that? He's the ranking member.
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It's amazing, if you didn't know who trump was you could assume that Giuliani is talking about his relationship with El Chapo.Tweet
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Waiting for the pivot.
Republican's are going to go Nuclear to stop this from happening. Genuinely think this is as close to a game over moment as we are likely to get.Tweet
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Yup. Took American citizenship in the early 2000s.Is Fiona Hill an ex Brit?
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