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Yeah exactly, I was going to post the bolded in his thread but couldn’t be arsed.
Nobody expects him to win the game for us, just shows what some like I have been saying, you cannot play him with Bruno in the same team, he’s not a DM you can play in the pivot.
Matic is the only player in our whole squad that can play DM in our 4-2-4 formation.
That’s because he’s the only true DM in the entire squad. It’s a joke.
Tell that to Ruck, he's cleary ignoring everything just to be able to bash VDB
Fred is gives the ball away and then presses aimlessly all the time.
Yes, and rightly takes stick for it. However the cognitive dissonance around Donny is such that he comes on, makes a pretty major error and you still have people coming out with stuff like "impeccable defensive positioning" which reads like a pre baked idea of what they want to see from him rather the reality of what he is and did.
On the other hand, people here a bitching about losing the midfield control when Donny came on while every midfield battle after that was with McTominay, not with Donny.
A player who never gets a chance, gets to play 15 odd minutes. Makes a mistake. So if players like fred and mctominay play day in day out, they should never make a mistake. Your posts are weird. Do your posts understand that dvb needs games to settle down and get it to a rhythm? Or has your post never played football before?
Also a player getting very limited game time will always try and impress and by doing that will make rash decisions. Comparing to the regular new starters is pointless.
Funny thing is, if he hadn't tried that pass, there would be complained by some people here that he doesn't take risks and only plays short passes
Fred and midfield control
Did we really watch the same game ?Exactly this. If he is given a few 90mins games in a row and he is shite then by all means, he should criticized like the others
I am not even really judging his performance, I am judging the comments on it.
Man, no one will criticize his game because he hardly gets a decent run out. Hardly gets a run to establish himself. He played at the end of the game when it was meaningless. So his mistake is not going to be talked about. It's not fair.
Someone show that post to Roy Keane, he will probably murder someone. ControlFred and midfield control
You don't have to talk about his mistake, this thread could have been entirely quiet post game, but the first post is this;
which suggests to me that the poster didn't watch the 10 mins Donny was on, or just blatantly ignored the Foden chance because it didn't fit what they wanted to say.
I already said it, what little bit of control we had. There wasn't much but at least Fred made them stick to one or two touch passes. Once he went off they could have started doing kick ups in the centre circle if they'd wanted.Fred and midfield control
My apologies. I did not see that post. Agree with your narrative in this case.
You're talking about the last 10mins of the game. Fred was abysmal for much more and we defo had zero control with him. He couldn't keep the ball nor pass it under the pressure
No worries, I should have quoted the original post for context earlier.
Who is he supposed to pass to in our team? ^^ Don't think, that Fred was abysmal at all. Actually, I thought nobody stood out, we were just the worse side all over the pitch, they were in cruise control and we had nothing. Singling out anybody feels unfair to say the least.
There is no singling out tbh. Fred and McTominay were equally poor. Bruno was poor too and let's not even talk about our fake wingbacks.It was a collective clusterfeck.
Yeah noticed that too. City players must have been puzzled, how comfortably that match was. That said, I thought nobody really stood out negatively or positively. Wouldn't say Fred was good or gave us control, but at least he was there and was noted most of the time.
Who is he supposed to pass to in our team? ^^ Don't think, that Fred was abysmal at all. Actually, I thought nobody stood out, we were just the worse side all over the pitch, they were in cruise control and we had nothing. Singling out anybody feels unfair to say the least.
He should be. The ones actually on the pitch are terrible.
Ah, pardon me then. I agree, 10 minutes isn't fair to judge the player. I agree though, We should try him in a formation where it is him and two other midfielders (preferably McFred or at least one of them plus Pogba or Matic). Bruno needs to either start from one of the flanks or he takes a false nine position. Maybe that would make us more dominant in the middle of the park. I don't think, Fred and McTom are such bad passers of the ball, with some movement and easier options, it might work.
He was brought on a situation where we had to try turn the game around from 2-0 down, he played with lack of discipline in 1 instance trying to win the ball back quickly and you've concluded he can never play in a deep midfield role ever again.
We were 2 nil down with 10 minutes to go. Such a strange decision by VDB to instantly press the ball after losing possession
The cheer for Donny today was as close to a protest against the manager as you're going to get.
