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Everyday, I really really don’t understand what do people see in Donny. He has absolutely no high level football abilities.Scott > Donny
and he’s homegrown
Everyday, I really really don’t understand what do people see in Donny. He has absolutely no high level football abilities.Scott > Donny
and he’s homegrown
He just second guesses himself, there’s a differenceEveryday, I really really don’t understand what do people see in Donny. He has absolutely no high level football abilities.
Might be connected with the level of Dutch defenders...He just second guesses himself, there’s a difference
The first couple of clips show the player we signed. He’s so timid here it’s weird.
Especially the first two minutes. Never saw him attempt any of that here. I simply don’t get it
You simply can’t underestimate the difference between in being one of the fastest, sharpest and strongest midfielders in a league to being the exact opposite in the Premier League.He just second guesses himself, there’s a difference
The first couple of clips show the player we signed. He’s so timid here it’s weird.
Especially the first two minutes. Never saw him attempt any of that here. I simply don’t get it
You'd think our scouts would have realized that the attributes that made him stand out in the Eredivisie are ones that are table stakes in the PL.You simply can’t underestimate the difference between in being one of the fastest, sharpest and strongest midfielders in a league to being the exact opposite in the Premier League.
This league is simply so much stronger,
and the knock on his confidence was clearly enormous.
Sancho has similar issues.
Aye, but Sancho appears to have duped the whole of Europe and not just our scouts, it’s clearly tough.You'd think our scouts would have realized that the attributes that made him stand out in the Eredivisie are ones that are table stakes in the PL.
I'd usually agree but DVB's coming from such a low point at the mo, that a straight loan feels about the best we could hope for.*Obligation to buy* would be a better option.
Even in this video, he seems like Donny that plays here, but defenders abilities in the video are way lower I guess. His runs are awkward, the way he holds the ball or does some tricks sometimes is awkward. He could be the best guy in the world, and I’d be happy if he succeeds anywhere, but he’s not succeeding here, and I have high doubts he’ll make it even in Sociedad or in any of the best leagues. Netherlands is a different story.He just second guesses himself, there’s a difference
The first couple of clips show the player we signed. He’s so timid here it’s weird.
Especially the first two minutes. Never saw him attempt any of that here. I simply don’t get it
Yeah pretty muchScott has always been less likely to leave than Fred or Donny simply because he is not on crazy wages, is still a decent age and can be useful if used situationally. He was actually pretty good when he played last season and seemed to repond well to ETH. We will still sell him for the right price but we are far from desperate to move him so won't entertain any daft offers. Donny needs to move as his value is shot and he needs to rebuild his reputation somewhere and Fred is 30 and we don't want to extend his contract so we will entertain any proposals.
30m? Are you nuts?To be honest we should be getting 30m+ for him but I doubt Sociedad will do more than loan with 10m option to buy or something stupid
Why? I'm all for thinking we don't get the most for our players, but that's unrealistic for a player who has just been a total ghost for years.To be honest we should be getting 30m+ for him but I doubt Sociedad will do more than loan with 10m option to buy or something stupid
30m+ Thai baht? I know the current market is crazy, but no way we can salvage almost what we paid for him.To be honest we should be getting 30m+ for him but I doubt Sociedad will do more than loan with 10m option to buy or something stupid
I'll take a bud lite and packet of peanuts.
Hopefully but can’t see it myself.Earlier was talk about a loan deal wasnt it?Have they changed it to a buy ?
He's 26 and a good player, not right for the size of United but given the prices of other players, he would absolutely be worth 30m for the impact he'd give a team like Sociedad, or any team that isn't a top level side.30m+ Thai baht? I know the current market is crazy, but no way we can salvage almost what we paid for him.
He's barely been fit or played and for players like him it's buyer's market. Clubs know that we are desperate to get rid of our dead wood, and he's on stupid wages given his current level.
Should negotiate a purchase obligation subject to playing a certain number of games, if they won't go for outright buy now/oblig to buy...Hopefully but can’t see it myself.
That is pretty much what we paid for him to begin with and his reputation has cratered in the 3 years he has been here. I very much doubt we get much of an up front fee, maybe a loan with an obligation at 12-15M if he hits certain targets this season.He's 26 and a good player, not right for the size of United but given the prices of other players, he would absolutely be worth 30m for the impact he'd give a team like Sociedad, or any team that isn't a top level side.
I get why we won't get 30m, im just saying a lot of clubs should be going for him at the fee at which he's likely to leave. Clubs suck at scouting though and read to much into immediate failures and not into the why.
?????To be honest we should be getting 30m+ for him but I doubt Sociedad will do more than loan with 10m option to buy or something stupid
United players get better the less they play?????
He's had 2 years on the bench and a third year injured. He's also on 120k pw which is far more than the kind of clubs that would be in for him will pay.
How, HOW do you come to the conclusion that 'we should be getting 30m+'
If we are selling DVB, Fred and Mctominay we will bring 2 more in not 1 which is why I think Scott Stays.Hopefully we can bring another mid in after he goes.
I sort of agree unless Mainoo's injury isn't too bad and ETH wants to find more minutes for himIf we are selling DVB, Fred and Mctominay we will bring 2 more in not 1 which is why I think Scott Stays.
I had high hopes for him . He just never seem to get going for us. He seems a good guy I hope he does well in the future it just won't be here.this is a no brainer to sell him....he's never going to make the grade here