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Yeah, they made a really good job of it in my view
In a perverse sort of way it's people like Ingham that helped us carry on for as long as we did. Having doors continually slammed in your face does weaken the resolve. But every now & then some gobshite would surface to say something inflammatory, & 'bingo', it was like oxygen to a cause that seemed doomed to failure on so many occasions.I guess the truth might well be uncomfortable if one sits on it for a quarter of a century.
Watching it now, didn't think it could get worse, but this footage, mostly from the BBC own camera's is horrifying. The fact that South Yorkshire Police got away with this.Panorama special on BBC1 now, lots of previously unseen footage.
Believe me I hate the scouse with a passion, it was indoctrinated into me over the years from my dad and grandad.The lies the South Yorkshire Police fed to the press were disgusting. Just to save their own skins.
We all hate scousers as football fans, but they are also human being like us. That day they were treated like animals. Back then all teams, including ours had their fair share of hooligans. That could have been our fans. Poor Anne Williams, who recently died, her son might have been saved, and certainly didn't die from accidental death. That was one hell of a mother who battled to the end for her son.Believe me I hate the scouse with a passion, it was indoctrinated into me over the years from my dad and grandad.
Hillsborough is a fecking disgrace what them poor families have been through and the cover up. I'm angry watching it, going to a football game and not coming home.
I hope they get some speedy justice and closure, its dragged on long enough.
It is so sad because they were let down by everyone.Absolutely horrific viewing. Hope someday these families get the justice they deserve. JFT96
With you 100% DT I take my lad to United games and cant imagine the pain, anger and grief. Horrific.We all hate scousers as football fans, but they are also human being like us. That day they were treated like animals. Back then all teams, including ours had their fair share of hooligans. That could have been our fans. Poor Anne Williams, who recently died, her son might have been saved, and certainly didn't die from accidental death. That was one hell of a mother who battled to the end for her son.
A good point made by RedIssue's twitter account IMO.All hail Panorama for "unearthing" new Hillsborough footage. And where did it come from? The BBC's vault. So they were part of the cover-up!
Get a gripMore to the point, what mistakes have the police ever taken responsibility for? This is what they do on a daily basis only on a larger and tragic scale.
In a way it's almost a necessity. It would have been better for the country if Hillsborough had been the fault of unruly football supporters. That's what the police decided, that's what the government decided, that's what Kelvin MacKenzie decided.
That the police were responsible for 96 deaths is a far more uncomfortable truth.
Of what?Get a grip
Of what you're saying instead of writing utter tosh.Of what?
Two replies from you and I'm still none the wiser as to what your problem is.Of what you're saying instead of writing utter tosh.
Basically the opening generation in the first paragraph.Two replies from you and I'm still none the wiser as to what your problem is.
Generalisation? That's fair enough. It wasn't my intention to accuse every single police officer of being corrupt. That would be disproven in the case of Hillsborough when many officers there gave honest statements only to have them altered by their 'superiors'.Basically the opening generation in the first paragraph.
Unless I've misinterpreted it, however, don't think I have.
My issue was with the insinuation that the Police never admit mistakes and cover things up on a daily basis.Generalisation? That's fair enough. It wasn't my intention to accuse every single police officer of being corrupt. That would be disproven in the case of Hillsborough when many officers there gave honest statements only to have them altered by their 'superiors'.
It's just my belief that the second part of that equation is the norm. This came through in John Motson's commentary shown on Panorama last night. They didn't waste a single minute putting their lie out there.
Why do you think that? This thread if nothing else shows the unity that exists on this issue - and rightly so.http://hillsboroughinquests.independent.gov.uk/hearings/
I know most of you won't be interested, but here are the transcripts of today's hearings at the inquests.